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#51

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FAtka wrote:lakko je vama bezosjecajnim muskarcima davati savjete...
nema tu- mojne.....to se ....
ne moze iskljuciti
nemora znaciti da je neko bezosjecajan samo zato sto misli da ljubav zna biti destruktivna. Ok je voliti, ali zasto uvijek mora da bude povezana sa patnjom i boli.
To mi se cini nepotrebno...to je sve
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#52

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Zene jedino vole same sebe i to je sve.
Sve ostalo je usput.
Zene kada dobiju djecu pocinju voljeti djecu vise od same sebe.
Onda vole,tada,same sebe i samo svoju djecu.

Zene ne vole muskarce ali trebaju muskarce.

Muskarci vole sami sebe ali nije tema.
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#53

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FAtka wrote: konj nijedan me zaboravlja i tjesi se drugima valjda... :sad:
Pa daaaj muuuuuu.......
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FAtka wrote: konj nijedan me zaboravlja i tjesi se drugima valjda... :sad:
...malo du¹e i ljubavi... :D :D :D
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Zadig wrote: nemora znaciti da je neko bezosjecajan samo zato sto misli da ljubav zna biti destruktivna. Ok je voliti, ali zasto uvijek mora da bude povezana sa patnjom i boli.
Boli ego, boli srce, boli du¹a, boli ponos, boli odbaèenost, boli samoæa itd itd...

A nadam se da se sla¾emo da je broj neuspjelih veza onako odokativnom metodom mnogo veæi od uspjelih...

Zato ljudi ve¾u ljubav s onim gore... Je**ga ne¹to boli, a vezano je s "ljubavlju"...
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imaju li one pupak :? :-? 8-)
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... mislim da jaku puno faktora utiče na ljudsko shvatanje ljubavi i veze, radilo se o ženam aili muškarcima ... znam bezbroj primjera u kojima su žene dominirale vezom ali isto toliko primjera gdje je slučaj obrnut ... gdje su žene patile ali isto tako i muškarci, gdje su žene imale svoje "bubice" isto kao i muškarci svoje itd ..

nedavno sam čitao nešto na temu "naučena - stečena ponašanja" i vjerujem da dosta nas ustvari nauči kako voljeti... okolina do te mjere uči i podučava ponašanju, kalupima, normama, pa i samoj ljubavi, da je jako malo muškaraca i žena koji su u stanju pokazati i osjetiti ljubav drugačije od okoline.. sve dakle zavisi koliko i kako na pojedinca utiče okolina... bio/bila muško ili žensko ... :razz:
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#58

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@ La_Forge - ne supljiraj sad okolo nego nam reci sta se s tvojom pricom desilo. Usutio si se, ne kukas... Da predpostavimo da je pao dogovor za odmor ili sl? :-D
p.s. svu raju zanima sta bi, ali svi kuliraju.
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La Forge, kad mogu zakazati seansu kod tebe? Optuzuju me da nisam sposobna da volim, pa bi mogao podijeliti steceno znanje sa mnom. Naravno, kad ti prodju ispiti, jer nisam u stanju da suosjecam s ljudima kad padnu na ispitu. Okolina, genetika, sta li je... :roll:
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La_Forge wrote: "nauèena - steèena pona¹anja" i vjerujem da dosta nas ustvari nauèi kako voljeti... okolina do te mjere uèi i poduèava pona¹anju, kalupima, normama, pa i samoj ljubavi, da je jako malo mu¹karaca i ¾ena koji su u stanju pokazati i osjetiti ljubav drugaèije od okoline..
Trèi¹ li ti po Ferhadiji dernjajuæi se kako je voli¹? Ubija¹ li golubove po èar¹iji i donosi¹ joj ponosno pred ognji¹te?
Visi¹ li sa nebodera sa plakatom koji nosi njeno ime?
Stoji¹ li sa kopljem ispred njenog haustora?

:D :D :D

Sve u ¾ivotu je norma... Èak i kod ¾ivotinja koje ¾ive u zajednici postoje norme... I kod onih koje nisu - kod susreta postoje norme pona¹anja... Neke uroðene osobine neke steèene osobine...
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ztluhcs wrote:
La_Forge wrote: "naučena - stečena ponašanja" i vjerujem da dosta nas ustvari nauči kako voljeti... okolina do te mjere uči i podučava ponašanju, kalupima, normama, pa i samoj ljubavi, da je jako malo muškaraca i žena koji su u stanju pokazati i osjetiti ljubav drugačije od okoline..
Trčiš li ti po Ferhadiji dernjajući se kako je voliš? Ubijaš li golubove po čaršiji i donosiš joj ponosno pred ognjište?
Visiš li sa nebodera sa plakatom koji nosi njeno ime?
Stojiš li sa kopljem ispred njenog haustora?

:D :D :D

Sve u životu je norma... Čak i kod životinja koje žive u zajednici postoje norme... I kod onih koje nisu - kod susreta postoje norme ponašanja... Neke urođene neke stečene...
Postoje norme, a gdje je tu kreativnost :? :roll:

Vidis ja sam upravo jednom takvom koji je "trcao po Ferhadiji" i "visio po neboderima", ali nije klao golubove :D bila spremna posvetiti cijeli svoj život...

Ljubav je divna stvar, kad se na divan način zna izraziti. Odstupanje od normi, pa cak i naizgled lucidnost.

Fuj stereotipi :-x
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Gazz wrote: Fuj stereotipi :-x
Fuj furanja na filmove i ljubavne romane... :D :D :D
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In sociology, a norm, or social norm, is a rule that is socially enforced. Social sanctioning is what distinguishes norms from other cultural products or social constructions such as meaning and values. Norms and normlessness are thought to affect a wide variety of human behavior.

Justification and origins

A norm can be a standard that a society expects or accepts thought or conduct approved by a society. A norm may or may not have a rational justification or origin. Norms with common sense origins may, over time, lose their original context as society changes: an action that was once performed because it was necessary to survive may over the years become a social norm, even once the circumstances that made it necessary for survival are no longer applicable.

There are at least two reasons for the stability of a norm. First, a large part of the socialization process is the definition, for the individual, of prevailing social norms; since these habits or customs generally lead to a relatively seamless integration into a society or social group, few refuse to adopt them. Second, even if a particular instance of normative behavior goes against an individual's instincts or previous habits, the weight of social pressure may induce that person, nonetheless, to follow the norm.

Traditional norms, including reciprocation in gift-giving and the obligation of hospitality to strangers, have been followed by people in disparate cultures over a long period of time. Such norms become elaborated upon in the more complex area of social custom. Detailed customs may outlast the social norms of which they were originally an expression, in which case they may, perhaps totally outside their original context, help define a new norm which relates to the common sense of a new time or context. In Europe, for example, certain feudal customs survive centuries after the norms that inspired them passed away (see examples in custom (law)).

The existence of a norm becomes most evident when it is ignored or violated. An individual who finds him/herself in a foreign environment dealing with an unfamiliar culture is likely to have this experience involuntarily. Such missteps are often milestones along the way toward becoming socialized to a new environment. The exotic individual may also on purpose or by accident introduce exotic norms that claim legitimacy in the new environment. While this is a common way that norms change over time, as in Europe through the introduction of Germanic elements into inherited Latin norms, attempts at cultural importation may also be seen as a threat to cultural identity and provoke sanctions.

In organized group situations, such as meetings, norms include unwritten and often unspoken rules that govern individual behavior. In some groups, norms are consciously prescribed as a set of ground rules. Persons skilled in facilitation assist groups in recognizing norms, as well as establishing norms to promote greater group (or team) effectiveness
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#64

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ztluhcs wrote:
Gazz wrote: Fuj stereotipi :-x
Fuj furanja na filmove i ljubavne romane... :D :D :D
fuj kockaste glave* :D :D :D

p.s. "ograničeni umovi" :-) :-) :-)
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Gazz wrote:
ztluhcs wrote:
Gazz wrote: Fuj stereotipi :-x
Fuj furanja na filmove i ljubavne romane... :D :D :D
fuj kockaste glave* :D :D :D

p.s. "ogranièeni umovi" :-) :-) :-)
"Unfuj" neogranièeni umovi u koje mo¾e stati neogranièena kolièina ljubavnih romana i epizoda ¹panskih sapLJunica... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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ztluhcs wrote:
Gazz wrote:
ztluhcs wrote: Fuj furanja na filmove i ljubavne romane... :D :D :D
fuj kockaste glave* :D :D :D

p.s. "ograničeni umovi" :-) :-) :-)
"Unfuj" neograničeni umovi u koje može stati neograničena količina ljubavnih romana i epizoda španskih sapLJunica... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Upravo tako :-) "Unfuj" ili ti anfuj ili ti anti fuj ili ne fuj ili.... :-) i tako unedogled :-) :-) :-)
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#67

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Mozda je mislio uberfuj.... :-)
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Vingo wrote:Mozda je mislio uberfuj.... :-)
Em ¹to navija¹ za Portugal em kontaaa¹! :D :D :D
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:-) ma :? :P cudi meE ..ako je svima stereotip fuJ.. ko li su tii Dezurni kriVvci :? :skoljka:
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SveMu SU kUmOvaLE JeFTiNe rEklAmE :D
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CiCiban wrote::-) ma :? :P cudi meE ..ako je svima stereotip fuJ.. ko li su tii Dezurni kriVvci :? :skoljka:
:shock: ja juèer bio :run: :evil: :roll: ne znam majke mi :o :music: :skoljka: forum super :music2: :angry: :run: :dance: :!: :zoka: e recite vi meni sad ne¹to na to! :cry: :-x


:D :D :D :D :D :D
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#72

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SveMu SU kUmOvaLE JeFTiNe rEklAmE :D

SSveeeeeeeeemu ssU kuMMovaLLLe jeFFtinnnE REkLaaaaame :P
stilska figura.. ..m.mmmmmm hmM! poreDjenje :D
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#73

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Cemu histerija?
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#74

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horns&drums wrote:SveMu SU kUmOvaLE JeFTiNe rEklAmE :D

sta sve ljudi zbog ljubavi rade :D zene to vole :-) a neki to vole vruce :D
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CiCiban wrote:SSveeeeeeeeemu ssU kuMMovaLLLe jeFFtinnnE REkLaaaaame :P
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