Turizam u BiH
-
mr_orange
- Posts: 451
- Joined: 01/11/2004 21:41
#1 Turizam u BiH
Sta mislite o turizmu u BiH i o njegovom razvoju? Da li mi stvarno imamo nesto za ponuditi , cime bi privukli turiste i postoji li mogucnost razvoja turizma u BiH? Sta to mi mozemo ponuditi, pa da pridobijemo strance da dolaze kod nas, umjesto na hrvatski Jadran, u Egipat, Tunis, Tursku, Grcku...?
-
mr_orange
- Posts: 451
- Joined: 01/11/2004 21:41
#5
A ja, za gospona Indijance, umalo da zaboravim
http://www.sarajevo-x.com/forum/viewtop ... ht=#422043
http://www.sarajevo-x.com/forum/viewtop ... ht=#422043
-
winetou
- Posts: 2030
- Joined: 30/07/2003 00:00
- Location: cyber prerije
- Contact:
#6
A i to što kažeš.
Nemam ja ništa protiv turizma u BiH ali skontajte već jednom da su potencijali zaista skromni (sa imidžom zemlje minskih polja) a priče o turizmu i lakoj pari.....
Masovni turizam nema šanser u BiH.
Bolje željezare dizati
Nemam ja ništa protiv turizma u BiH ali skontajte već jednom da su potencijali zaista skromni (sa imidžom zemlje minskih polja) a priče o turizmu i lakoj pari.....
Masovni turizam nema šanser u BiH.
Bolje željezare dizati
-
gavrilo
- Posts: 5381
- Joined: 15/10/2004 18:37
- Location: Zürich
#7
'ebes zeljezare...winetou wrote:A i to što kažeš.
Nemam ja ništa protiv turizma u BiH ali skontajte već jednom da su potencijali zaista skromni (sa imidžom zemlje minskih polja) a priče o turizmu i lakoj pari.....
Masovni turizam nema šanser u BiH.
Bolje željezare dizati
treba poceti sa bankarstvom, imobilijama i osiguranjima...
-
mr_orange
- Posts: 451
- Joined: 01/11/2004 21:41
#9
Eto vidis, slazemo se u necemu, i ja mislim da je nama turizam slabija tacka, i da bas i nemamo ponuditi nesto previse kao sto se prica. Jedino mozda u zimskom periodu, Igman, Bjelasnica, Jahorina, Vlasic.winetou wrote:A i to što kažeš.
Nemam ja ništa protiv turizma u BiH ali skontajte već jednom da su potencijali zaista skromni (sa imidžom zemlje minskih polja) a priče o turizmu i lakoj pari.....
Masovni turizam nema šanser u BiH.
Bolje željezare dizati
-
nendertalac
- Posts: 563
- Joined: 19/02/2005 23:25
- Contact:
#11 Re: Turizam u BiH
Vidis bilo bi lijepo da umjesto gomile nas koji volimo da pametujemo o stvarima o kojima nista ne znamo - da se ovdje pojavi neko za koga turizam nije sinonim za brckanje nogica na molu.mr_orange wrote:Sta mislite o turizmu u BiH i o njegovom razvoju? Da li mi stvarno imamo nesto za ponuditi , cime bi privukli turiste i postoji li mogucnost razvoja turizma u BiH? Sta to mi mozemo ponuditi, pa da pridobijemo strance da dolaze kod nas, umjesto na hrvatski Jadran, u Egipat, Tunis, Tursku, Grcku...?
dodatak - i lomatanje po snjegu
-
nendertalac
- Posts: 563
- Joined: 19/02/2005 23:25
- Contact:
#12
I don’t really want to do this – it would take me a hell of a time to visit and list them all, especially those who are not registered for business, but I’m willing to bet that there are more rooms, motels, hotels, restaurants, night bars, coffee shops and diners per square kilometer in Sarajevo than in Las Vegas. Or just about. Only – most are either empty or working without lights. No, it’s not a figure of speech. You read it right. Without lights. It’s not uncommon for a hotel owner who is also the head of operations, to order that all lights including the parking light and a light advertisement above the main entrance to the hotel – be turned off. It’s a waste of electrics.
For 40 euros a night you can have once-we-were-white towels. If you are a foreigner it’s 80 euros. For business travelers, you can find internet club in a hotel bar. You are not very likely though to manage to reserve the room over the internet in any of the hotels operating in Bosnia. You are not very likely to arrange the room reservation over the internet or to even find hotels. Talking about possibility to actually search for the room by the price or location and number of rooms or beds available – you are day dreaming. If you are having a dinner in a restaurant on the patio of the hotel – you might have it together with several neighborhood cats. You will get into a lot of places where you can have pizza – but you are not very likely to find good local food. If you want a room with a view to the lake – you might get a view to the garbage we leave behind. If you want to have a walk in a park – make sure you are done sightseeing before dark. As souvenirs – we sell books about war, wine coolers made of grenade shells, candle holders made of bullets. We also have hand made shoes that will raise your need for Band-Aids and corn healers. Or you can buy a hand made wool sweater that will make you itch like hell no matter how many shirts or undershirts you have under. We have never heard of most of the drinks you are asking for and we don’t make cocktails. If you want to order something to eat in the bar, we will make a big deal out of it and charge you about 10 euros for the funkiest tasting food that you have ever eaten before. If you would like to eat something from international cuisine – we can fix it for you – you just have to tell us how. If a man or a woman in your company is speaking Bosnian – our servers will assign them as translators. All soft drinks are bottled, including water. Most wines are not offered by glass. A bottle of wine will cost you more than five glasses of the same wine. If you take a cab you will pay for a round trip no matter where you go. We have winter sports facilities, but it’s better not to come here in winter. Snow is always a big surprise for us – you might end up staying here far longer than you thought you would. There are places where you can’t enter wearing a sport suit – it goes bad with the smell of city sewage from the river. For other places you might need a bulletproof shirt – on occasion we chose night clubs to take care of our business. Most places worth seeing you will not be able to visit with an organized trip. National museums might be closed for public. If you find non smoking seats in a restaurant – they are non smoking for guests only – the boss can smoke wherever he wants. If you find a place with a good vegetarian food – let me know – I’ll make them a free webpage.
We still have a lot of burned buildings that you can take photos off. You can also take photos of beggars, from those hanging in their mothers lap and screaming on 40 degrees temperature in mid July, over 5-12 years old barefooted in the middle of the winter. To over 12 years old with their own children wrapped in their arms.
If you tell us that you can get a far better experience with an excellent service in any place of the world – we will tell you to go ahead and go there.
For 40 euros a night you can have once-we-were-white towels. If you are a foreigner it’s 80 euros. For business travelers, you can find internet club in a hotel bar. You are not very likely though to manage to reserve the room over the internet in any of the hotels operating in Bosnia. You are not very likely to arrange the room reservation over the internet or to even find hotels. Talking about possibility to actually search for the room by the price or location and number of rooms or beds available – you are day dreaming. If you are having a dinner in a restaurant on the patio of the hotel – you might have it together with several neighborhood cats. You will get into a lot of places where you can have pizza – but you are not very likely to find good local food. If you want a room with a view to the lake – you might get a view to the garbage we leave behind. If you want to have a walk in a park – make sure you are done sightseeing before dark. As souvenirs – we sell books about war, wine coolers made of grenade shells, candle holders made of bullets. We also have hand made shoes that will raise your need for Band-Aids and corn healers. Or you can buy a hand made wool sweater that will make you itch like hell no matter how many shirts or undershirts you have under. We have never heard of most of the drinks you are asking for and we don’t make cocktails. If you want to order something to eat in the bar, we will make a big deal out of it and charge you about 10 euros for the funkiest tasting food that you have ever eaten before. If you would like to eat something from international cuisine – we can fix it for you – you just have to tell us how. If a man or a woman in your company is speaking Bosnian – our servers will assign them as translators. All soft drinks are bottled, including water. Most wines are not offered by glass. A bottle of wine will cost you more than five glasses of the same wine. If you take a cab you will pay for a round trip no matter where you go. We have winter sports facilities, but it’s better not to come here in winter. Snow is always a big surprise for us – you might end up staying here far longer than you thought you would. There are places where you can’t enter wearing a sport suit – it goes bad with the smell of city sewage from the river. For other places you might need a bulletproof shirt – on occasion we chose night clubs to take care of our business. Most places worth seeing you will not be able to visit with an organized trip. National museums might be closed for public. If you find non smoking seats in a restaurant – they are non smoking for guests only – the boss can smoke wherever he wants. If you find a place with a good vegetarian food – let me know – I’ll make them a free webpage.
We still have a lot of burned buildings that you can take photos off. You can also take photos of beggars, from those hanging in their mothers lap and screaming on 40 degrees temperature in mid July, over 5-12 years old barefooted in the middle of the winter. To over 12 years old with their own children wrapped in their arms.
If you tell us that you can get a far better experience with an excellent service in any place of the world – we will tell you to go ahead and go there.
-
Mx
- Posts: 1073
- Joined: 17/07/2003 00:00
#13 Re: Turizam u BiH
Odlicna temamr_orange wrote:Sta mislite o turizmu u BiH i o njegovom razvoju? Da li mi stvarno imamo nesto za ponuditi , cime bi privukli turiste i postoji li mogucnost razvoja turizma u BiH? Sta to mi mozemo ponuditi, pa da pridobijemo strance da dolaze kod nas, umjesto na hrvatski Jadran, u Egipat, Tunis, Tursku, Grcku...?
Bosna i Hercegovina ima zaista ogromne potencijale za razvoj turizma. To je jedna od najljepsih drzava u evropi. Problem je na drugom mjestu, odnos politicara i obicnog svijeta prema turizmu u BiH je na vrlo niskom nivou. Nema nikakvih ozbiljnih inicijativa, ofanzivnog reklamiranja u evropi i svijetu. Uzecu samo jedan primjer: Hrvatska. U Svedskoj i svim svedskim medijima kao sto su razne svedske novine kao expressen, aftonbladet, dn, TV i drugi mediji. Hrvatska i hrvati ofanzivno djeluju vec zadnje dvije godine u toku cijele godine preko svojih drzavnih organa i turistickih agencija. Sa takvim svojim reklamama i ofanzivnim kampanjama su uspjeli totalno da okrenu svedske turiste prema sebi. U ovom momentu vecina svedjana koja je nakada isla u Spaniju i druge zemlje sada zele da idu u Hrvatsku na odmor i da investiraju u tu zemlju. Mnogi Svedjani zele da kupe kuce, zgrade, vikendice i jos dosta toga u Hrvatskoj. Hrvatska im je jako blizu, ima idealnu klimu u odnosu na Svedsku. Neke druge drzave i turisticke destinacije koje ce uskoro biti visoko atraktivne za Svedjane prema njihovim medijima su: Bugarska, Albanija, Rumunija. Turska i Grcka su vec odavno etablirane kod Svedjana. Grcka sada radi neke zajednicke turisticke projekte sa Albanijom i zajednicke destinacije reklamira u Svedskoj.
Mislim da BiH treba blisko saradjivati sa svim ovim turistickim zemljama, razmjenjivati sa njima iskustva i prosirivati saradnju. BiH bi mogla da ima ogromnu korist od hrvatskog turizma kao i obratno. BiH bi mogla zajedno sa Hrvatskom da pravi raznorazne kampanje na zapadu za animiranje i dovodjenje turista u BiH i Hrvatsku. Te dvije zemlje se mogu kompletirati zbog razlicitih ponuda koje imaju. Hrvatska ima more. BiH ima jezera, planine, rijeke itd sto Hrvatska nema i obratno. Znaci te dvije drzave su idealne za kompletiranje i saradnju u domenu turizma.
Normalno za sve ovo su u BiH potrebni preduslovi zbog konkurencije sa drugim zemljama. BiH mora prezentirati odlicne i kvalitetne ponude i usluge u kombinaciji sa niskim i konkurentnim cijenama u odnosu na druge vec etablirane turisticke drzave i destinacije. Sljedeci preduslov je izgradnja autoputeva i slicno.
Koliko ja mogu da primjetim glavna kocnica za razvoj turizma kao i svega ostalog u BiH je katastrofalna politicka situacija gdje svi politicari i njihova destruktivna politika o podjeli zemlje na tri dijela vuku na svoju stranu i ne brinu se za razvoj drzave nego upravo obratno.
Last edited by Mx on 04/05/2011 16:58, edited 2 times in total.
-
Aorta
- Posts: 389
- Joined: 08/04/2003 00:00
- Location: Right Here.
#14
http://www.bhtourism.ba
Imamo prelijepu domovinu. Too bad sto patimo od "the grass is greener on the other side of the fence" komplexa.
Imamo prelijepu domovinu. Too bad sto patimo od "the grass is greener on the other side of the fence" komplexa.
-
Ajnslag-cincilator
- Posts: 172
- Joined: 19/06/2005 02:27
#15
Ovo je turistički web portal Federacije BiH. Šta je sa ostatkom BiH?
-
nendertalac
- Posts: 563
- Joined: 19/02/2005 23:25
- Contact:
#16
KO IM OVO SASTAVI - ... BEM GA U ...ZICUAorta wrote:http://www.bhtourism.ba
-
nendertalac
- Posts: 563
- Joined: 19/02/2005 23:25
- Contact:
#17
E kad bi se poslovne strategije djelile dzabe - nasi bi turisticari bili najsretniji turisticari na svijetu!Ajnslag-cincilator wrote:Ovo je turistički web portal Federacije BiH. Šta je sa ostatkom BiH?
-
Mx
- Posts: 1073
- Joined: 17/07/2003 00:00
#18
Aorta wrote:www.bhtourism.ba
Imamo prelijepu domovinu. Too bad sto patimo od "the grass is greener on the other side of the fence" komplexa.
Last edited by Mx on 04/05/2011 17:01, edited 1 time in total.
-
nendertalac
- Posts: 563
- Joined: 19/02/2005 23:25
- Contact:
#19
unajme male budale pa ih onda tjeraju da zadju po chatovima i forumima i pitaju "sta cemo sad???Mx wrote:Aorta,Aorta wrote:www.bhtourism.ba
Imamo prelijepu domovinu. Too bad sto patimo od "the grass is greener on the other side of the fence" komplexa.
kakav je ovo politicki webbportal na tvom linku.
"-
Ajnslag-cincilator
- Posts: 172
- Joined: 19/06/2005 02:27
#20
Site je jad i čemer poredeći ga sa Hrvatskom turističkom zajednicom, turističkom organizacijom Srbije , turističkim savezom Crne Gore, turističkim savezom Bugarske
-
nendertalac
- Posts: 563
- Joined: 19/02/2005 23:25
- Contact:
#21
a tek spanskim, egipatskim i turskim...Ajnslag-cincilator wrote:Site je jad i čemer poredeći ga sa Hrvatskom turističkom zajednicom, turističkom organizacijom Srbije , turističkim savezom Crne Gore, turističkim savezom Bugarske
kamo dalje rodjace
iz pjeska vire krunisane glave
sto to rade?
prde u prasinu
cini mi se rodjace
da je standard pokvario ljude
jedu govna i
sanjare...
-
Aorta
- Posts: 389
- Joined: 08/04/2003 00:00
- Location: Right Here.
#22
Pitanje je bilo sta to mi imamo ponuditi? Mislim da ova stranica, ko god da je "sastavio," na svom foto-video linku prikazuje neke od mnogih prirodnih ljepota u BiH koje mozemo ponuditi turistima. Da se zimski turizam u Bosni razvije koliko potencijal dozvoljava, neko rece da bi bili "Sinapor Evrope." 
-
nendertalac
- Posts: 563
- Joined: 19/02/2005 23:25
- Contact:
#23
Na to pitanje treba da odgovore ljudi koji su u stanju (mentalno) i mogucnosti (finansijski) da sprovedu istrazivanje ili plate podatke istrazivanja koja su vec zavrsena od drugih svjetskih organizacija koje se bave tim i takvim stvarima - pa da na osnovu tih i takvih istrazivanja odrede koji su to potencijali na kojima se moze poraditi da bi jednog dana mogli uci u konkurenciju sa drugim turistickim odredistima u cijelom svijetu.Aorta wrote:Pitanje je bilo sta to mi imamo ponuditi? Mislim da ova stranica, ko god da je "sastavio," na svom foto-video linku prikazuje neke od mnogih prirodnih ljepota u BiH koje mozemo ponuditi turistima. Da se zimski turizam u Bosni razvije koliko potencijal dozvoljava, neko rece da bi bili "Sinapor Evrope."
Ali, ali ...
Posto ja redovno vidim teske budaletine koje se jedva znaju potpisati na na najvisim nivoima vlasti, od ministarstva pa nadalje (i "nadole" i "nagore") ne pada mi na pamet da ih besplatno ucim svemu onome sto bi trebali da znaju da bi uopste bili u poziciji na kojoj jesu.
Ovaj "portal", osim tih "videa" i "slika" nema apsolutno nista sto takav portal treba da ima. I takvo nam je sve - iz istih, vec navedenih razloga. Ako je vec neko odlucio da je dobro postaviti budale na kljucna mjesta privrede - onda taj "neko" ko uporno glasa za te iste budale - treba i da propadne. pa ce jednog dana, kad se sve nase budale po politickim linijama i kadrovskim politikama izredaju, i kad hoteli i turisticke destinacije ne budu vrijedile ni koliko ni crno ispod noktiju, onda ce doci Italijani, Austrijanci, Njemci... pa mozda i Svedjani - i poceti raditi onako kako se u savremenom svijetu radi - naravno za svoje investitore i za svoj dzep. Mi cemo tu moci posluziti samo kao "interni personal".
A svi oni koji besplatno daju informacije i ideje tim narodnim posranicima - svojim dobronamjernim komentarima samo pomazu tim budalama da ostanu gdje jesu.
-
zzzzz
- Posts: 2053
- Joined: 27/05/2004 22:30
#24
Ovo je vec treca tema na koju postavljam ovu vijest 
- Potpisan ugovor za izradu biznis-plana Igman i Bjelašnica
Piše: E. KOKOR
01/06/05
Ekonomski i turistički razvoj Kantona Sarajevo
Turistička zajednica Kantona Sarajevo kao nositelj projekta potpisala je u utorak u ime Kantona Sarajevo, općina Trnovo, Hadžići i Ilidža, te firme ZOI 84 ugovor s francuskom konsultantskom firmom BCEOM o izradi biznis-plana za područje Igmana i Bjelašnice.
Ugovor su u prisustvu francuskog ambasadora u BiH Henrya Zippera de Fabianija potpisali direktor Turističke zajednice KS Šemsudin Džeko i zamjenik direktora francuske firme BCEOM Paul-Marie Ringwald.
Visoki predstavnik Paddy Ashdown tom je prilikom kazao kako su Igman i Bjelašnica jedan od najznačajnijih planinskih kompleksa ne samo u jugoistočnoj Evropi nego i šire.
“Biznis-plan, za koji je pomoć pružila vlada Francuske, osigurat će izuzetan ekonomski potencijal i otvaranje novih radnih mjesta, kao i to da Igman i Bjelašnica postanu poznate evropske turističke destinacije i zimi i ljeti”, kazao je Ashdown. Miralem Ramić, načelnik Općine Trnovo, kazao nam je da će se ovim projektom graditi eko i etnoselo.
“Još nije određen prostor gdje će biti smješteno eko-selo, mada se uskoro očekuje izrada projektnog plana, definisanje lokacije, te početak radova. Eko-selo će biti izgrađeno od eko-materijala”, pojasnio je Ramić.
Denis Zvizdić, premijer Kantona Sarajevo, istaknuo je kako će biznis-plan odrediti pravce razvoja turizma s jasno definiranim projektima, te biti osnova za razvoja turizma i privrede Kantona.
Vrijednost ovog projekta je oko milion KM, a završen je uz posredovanje OHR.
-
nendertalac
- Posts: 563
- Joined: 19/02/2005 23:25
- Contact:
#25
To samo potvrdjuje ovo sto sam ja vec napisala...