LIBIJA

[Kat]

http://www.thetotalcollapse.com/who-is- ... -vs-truth/

[ivannn]

naletih na ovo

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http://www.radiosarajevo.ba/novost/65917/posljednji-trenuci-gadhafijevog-sina-mutasima

ja kako su ih pokokali, ekspresno i ciljano da slučajno niko ne ostane živ od potencijalnih političkih protivnika

jebote, nije da mi je žao Gadafija i njegovih sinova...niko od njih nije cvjećka bio ali ovo je užas

pa nek još ko stisne da kaže da se ne slaže

danas za svakog normalnog čovjeka isti užas nude i talibani i demokratija

ne znam je li netko gledao one fotografije iz voa-e sa zatvorenicima koje su pohvatali, izatvarali ih i izmasakrirali, poubijali i spalili po zgradama...

grozota

nadam se da će međunarodni sud nešto učiniti po ovom pitanju, iako je rat, postoji i nešto što se zove ratni zločin

[KatarinaKosaca]

da baš tako

ove slike iz Libije me totalno podsjećaju na 1917. i Oktobarsku revoluciju i kako su porokali Romanove.

U slučaju Iraka se još uvijek igralo u rukavicama, pa je barem ispoštovana forma. Sadama su uhvatili, pa sudili i objesili. U Libiji se otišlo korak dalje, jer nakon "uspjeha" u Iraku bilo kakav privid legitimacije ili opravdanja više nije potreban: apsolutna pobjeda-apsolutno čišćenje i na kraju će biti apsolutna kontrola.

Svima nama koji tamo nemamo ama baš nikakvog interesa, bilo materijalnog bilo ideološkog, ostaje samo da se ibretimo i u budućnosti prizivamo sreću da nas ne utrefi đe, kao kolateralnu štetu, kakav "glasnik" Allahove volje (bombaš samoubica), jal kakav instrument demokracije (tomahawk). Najgore je da što vrijeme bude odmicalo haos će biti sve veći jer se i same granice (gdje se borba vodi) ukidaju. Ovo je totalni rat koji počinje u jebenom supermarketu.

jebem ti vaku sreću đe me ova planeta za život potrefi!

Kako netko napisa... Svaka ti je zlatna

[amrica]

da baš tako

ove slike iz Libije me totalno podsjećaju na 1917. i Oktobarsku revoluciju i kako su porokali Romanove.

U slučaju Iraka se još uvijek igralo u rukavicama, pa je barem ispoštovana forma. Sadama su uhvatili, pa sudili i objesili. U Libiji se otišlo korak dalje, jer nakon "uspjeha" u Iraku bilo kakav privid legitimacije ili opravdanja više nije potreban: apsolutna pobjeda-apsolutno čišćenje i na kraju će biti apsolutna kontrola.

Svima nama koji tamo nemamo ama baš nikakvog interesa, bilo materijalnog bilo ideološkog, ostaje samo da se ibretimo i u budućnosti prizivamo sreću da nas ne utrefi đe, kao kolateralnu štetu, kakav "glasnik" Allahove volje (bombaš samoubica), jal kakav instrument demokracije (tomahawk). Najgore je da što vrijeme bude odmicalo haos će biti sve veći jer se i same granice (gdje se borba vodi) ukidaju. Ovo je totalni rat koji počinje u jebenom supermarketu.

jebem ti vaku sreću đe me ova planeta za život potrefi!

breivik

[detroit-mercy]

da baš tako

ove slike iz Libije me totalno podsjećaju na 1917. i Oktobarsku revoluciju i kako su porokali Romanove.

U slučaju Iraka se još uvijek igralo u rukavicama, pa je barem ispoštovana forma. Sadama su uhvatili, pa sudili i objesili. U Libiji se otišlo korak dalje, jer nakon "uspjeha" u Iraku bilo kakav privid legitimacije ili opravdanja više nije potreban: apsolutna pobjeda-apsolutno čišćenje i na kraju će biti apsolutna kontrola.

Svima nama koji tamo nemamo ama baš nikakvog interesa, bilo materijalnog bilo ideološkog, ostaje samo da se ibretimo i u budućnosti prizivamo sreću da nas ne utrefi đe, kao kolateralnu štetu, kakav "glasnik" Allahove volje (bombaš samoubica), jal kakav instrument demokracije (tomahawk). Najgore je da što vrijeme bude odmicalo haos će biti sve veći jer se i same granice (gdje se borba vodi) ukidaju. Ovo je totalni rat koji počinje u jebenom supermarketu.

jebem ti vaku sreću đe me ova planeta za život potrefi!

Pa ako se osvrnemo na ovo boldano, nije da nas nije utrefio , zavisno samo sa koje si strane crte bio. Al opet ne treba sitnicariti , ista smo zemlja.
Mada se nismo bas nesto ni ibretili pretjerano onda
Za ostalo, si u pravu.
Mada kazem ti, svi smo mi u principu prilicno subjektivni u nasem gledanju svijet. Dok nam neko odgovara tj. dok imamo koristi zivo nam se hebe za ostali svijet. Kada nema interesa onda se ko biva nesto ibretimo i trazimo univerzalnu pravdu .

[JoseMujica]

i ta ti je skroz na mjestu

[seljak_cojek]

Izvinjavam se zbog dužine teksta. Postao sam ga zbog onih koje zanima istina, koji će konsultovati različite izvore prije nego formiraju konačno mišljenje.

Who is Muammar Gaddafi?
01.03.2011

by Antonio Cesar Oliveira


How can you call someone a dictator a leader who overthrew a corrupt monarchy, modernized the country, won the highest HDI in Africa, and applied a direct democracy system of government?

Gaddafi has always supported revolutionary movements around the world. When the media - in the service of the U.S. - praised the apartheid regime South Africa, young Gaddafi in Libya trained and sent them back with the best weapons to win freedom in South Africa.

Suddenly the press began a daily attack on the leader Muammar Gaddafi, to distill hatred, spreading lies, forging videos for what? What does it prove? The crimes of the Libyan government? Apparently this journalistic line was caused by popular uprisings in Algeria, Tunisia, Yemen and Egypt.

In fact, it is more a question of one more terrorist strategy of the government of the United States of America to recover influence in the Arab world. In Egypt, the government fell in U.S. confidence. Mubarak was merely an agent of U.S. and Israel interests in the region. With the fall of Mubarak, Iranian ships began to circulate in the vicinity of Israel, causing unease and anger in the diplomatic environments subservient to imperialism and Zionism.

After losing Egypt, the U.S. government tries to divide and weaken Libya, and this effort receives support from the supporters of Bin Laden, and thousands of Egyptian refugees that over the years have taken refuge in eastern Libya, fleeing the repression in Egypt. After the Egyptians came Algerians, Tunisians and Somalis, followers of Al Qaeda. They enjoyed the hospitality of the Libyans and then the next thing they stabbed them in the back, triggering a revolt that has left tens of victims, through sabotage, terrorism and destruction of public property.

But who is this Qaddafi that the media suddenly started to attack in all forms, and even in a most cowardly form? Gaddafi led a revolution to overthrow King Idris, a puppet of Italian and American interests in the region. At the time, the largest U.S. military base abroad was in Libya, Qaddafi and his supporters surrounded the base and gave 24 hours for all invading foreigners to leave the country.

In power, Gaddafi did not like the Arab monarchs, did not build palaces with gold, not buy luxury yachts or collections of imported cars. He devoted himself to rebuilding the country, ensuring better living conditions for the people. Today Qaddafi is not president or prime minister of Libya, but the media wants him to resign a post which does not exist.

The lies of the media cannot hide the fact that Gaddafi has supported the struggles of peoples for liberation in Nicaragua, Cuba, Angola, Mozambique, South Africa and many other countries, specifically concretely helping the people who fought for liberation. In practice, Gaddafi has always been a benefactor of mankind, but for the mercenary media, a benefactor is one who creates wars in search of profits for the arms industry or to dominate the world, as were the wars created by the U.S. in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Palestine, Afghanistan, El Salvador, Nicaragua and many other countries.

This utterly ridiculous gossip of wealth and strange customs have always been exploited by the media, it was with Saddam Hussein, Yasser Arafat, Fidel Castro, Ahmadinejad, Hugo Chavez and etc. It is enough to be a serious ruler that does not seriously kneel down and cower in fear before the United States and is not intimidated to be demonised and disparaged by the mercenary media.

Another fact that the media cannot falsify is the HDI (Human Development Index) measured by UN officials. These data indicate, for example, that Libya had in 1970, a situation a little worse than Brazil (HDI of 0.541, against 0.551 of Brazil.) The Libyan index surpassed the Brazilian years later, and in 2008 was well ahead: 0.810 (ranked 43rd), compared to 0.764 (ranking 59th). All three sub-indices that comprise the HDI is higher in the African country: income, longevity and education.

In the HDI recast the difference remains. Libya is ranked the 53rd (0.755) and Brazil 73rd (.699). Libya is the country with the highest HDI in Africa. Therefore, the best distribution of income, and health and public education are free. And almost 10% of Libyan students receive scholarships to study in foreign countries.

So what kind of dictatorship is this? A dictatorship would never allow this kind of policy for the benefit of the people.

Gadhafi wrote the Green Book, the Third Universal Theory, which deals with controversial and real issues. He complains, for example, about the falsification of democracy through parliamentary assemblies. In most countries that consider themselves democratic, including the United States of America, political parties are organized criminal gangs to loot the people's money in legislative assemblies, City Councils, House of Representatives, etc.

This observation - and a book in publication - certainly irritate and anger them? The defenders of parliamentary democracy? The Green Book, written by Gaddafi, says that workers should be involved and self-employed, and that the land must be of those who work it and those who live in the house. And power shall be exercised by the people directly, without intermediaries, without politicians, through popular congresses and committees, where the whole population decides the fundamental issues of the district, city and country. These words, which everyone knows are true, revolt and irritate those few who benefit from the falsification of democracy, especially the capitalist regimes.

But the press will keep on on forging the news, boiling hatred by spreading lies, because it is following orders from the U.S. government, very interested in the large oil reserves of Libya.

Major newspapers and television channels in the world use news agencies from the United States, all biased, misleading and deceptive. The lies that the news agencies sell buy public opinion, and most people? By naivete or misinformation they behave like puppets, repeating whatever the U.S. government determines and imposes.

This is not the first nor will it be the last, the Libyan Arab people face powerful foreign powers. Again the Libyan people will win, because they have the leadership of Muammar Qaddafi, an effective, strong and honorable guide.

*In a rare interview with Western journalists in January 1986, only months before the U.S. terrorist bombing of Libya, the Leader of the Revolution spoke frankly about his life and how he had been misunderstood by the West. Meeting the journalists in his tent he told of how he admired former US Presidents George Washington and Abraham Lincoln and of other world leaders he admires like "Egypt's late Gamal Abdul Nasser, India's Mahatma Gandhi, Sun Yat-Sen of China and Italy's Garibaldi and Mazzini." (Really, I'm a Nice Guy, Kate Dourian, Tripoli, Libya.)

He spoke of his favourite book The Outsider by British author Colin Wilson and others he likes such as Uncle Tom's Cabin and Roots. Throughout this interview the profound thinking and innate humanity of Muammar Qadhafi shone through.

He also stated in another interview: "I see the press as being the messengers between me and the world to tell them the truth."

[detroit-mercy]

Izvinjavam se zbog dužine teksta. Postao sam ga zbog onih koje zanima istina, koji će konsultovati različite izvore prije nego formiraju konačno mišljenje.

Who is Muammar Gaddafi?
01.03.2011

by Antonio Cesar Oliveira


How can you call someone a dictator a leader who overthrew a corrupt monarchy, modernized the country, won the highest HDI in Africa, and applied a direct democracy system of government?

Gaddafi has always supported revolutionary movements around the world. When the media - in the service of the U.S. - praised the apartheid regime South Africa, young Gaddafi in Libya trained and sent them back with the best weapons to win freedom in South Africa.

Suddenly the press began a daily attack on the leader Muammar Gaddafi, to distill hatred, spreading lies, forging videos for what? What does it prove? The crimes of the Libyan government? Apparently this journalistic line was caused by popular uprisings in Algeria, Tunisia, Yemen and Egypt.

In fact, it is more a question of one more terrorist strategy of the government of the United States of America to recover influence in the Arab world. In Egypt, the government fell in U.S. confidence. Mubarak was merely an agent of U.S. and Israel interests in the region. With the fall of Mubarak, Iranian ships began to circulate in the vicinity of Israel, causing unease and anger in the diplomatic environments subservient to imperialism and Zionism.

After losing Egypt, the U.S. government tries to divide and weaken Libya, and this effort receives support from the supporters of Bin Laden, and thousands of Egyptian refugees that over the years have taken refuge in eastern Libya, fleeing the repression in Egypt. After the Egyptians came Algerians, Tunisians and Somalis, followers of Al Qaeda. They enjoyed the hospitality of the Libyans and then the next thing they stabbed them in the back, triggering a revolt that has left tens of victims, through sabotage, terrorism and destruction of public property.

But who is this Qaddafi that the media suddenly started to attack in all forms, and even in a most cowardly form? Gaddafi led a revolution to overthrow King Idris, a puppet of Italian and American interests in the region. At the time, the largest U.S. military base abroad was in Libya, Qaddafi and his supporters surrounded the base and gave 24 hours for all invading foreigners to leave the country.

In power, Gaddafi did not like the Arab monarchs, did not build palaces with gold, not buy luxury yachts or collections of imported cars. He devoted himself to rebuilding the country, ensuring better living conditions for the people. Today Qaddafi is not president or prime minister of Libya, but the media wants him to resign a post which does not exist.

The lies of the media cannot hide the fact that Gaddafi has supported the struggles of peoples for liberation in Nicaragua, Cuba, Angola, Mozambique, South Africa and many other countries, specifically concretely helping the people who fought for liberation. In practice, Gaddafi has always been a benefactor of mankind, but for the mercenary media, a benefactor is one who creates wars in search of profits for the arms industry or to dominate the world, as were the wars created by the U.S. in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Palestine, Afghanistan, El Salvador, Nicaragua and many other countries.

This utterly ridiculous gossip of wealth and strange customs have always been exploited by the media, it was with Saddam Hussein, Yasser Arafat, Fidel Castro, Ahmadinejad, Hugo Chavez and etc. It is enough to be a serious ruler that does not seriously kneel down and cower in fear before the United States and is not intimidated to be demonised and disparaged by the mercenary media.

Another fact that the media cannot falsify is the HDI (Human Development Index) measured by UN officials. These data indicate, for example, that Libya had in 1970, a situation a little worse than Brazil (HDI of 0.541, against 0.551 of Brazil.) The Libyan index surpassed the Brazilian years later, and in 2008 was well ahead: 0.810 (ranked 43rd), compared to 0.764 (ranking 59th). All three sub-indices that comprise the HDI is higher in the African country: income, longevity and education.

In the HDI recast the difference remains. Libya is ranked the 53rd (0.755) and Brazil 73rd (.699). Libya is the country with the highest HDI in Africa. Therefore, the best distribution of income, and health and public education are free. And almost 10% of Libyan students receive scholarships to study in foreign countries.

So what kind of dictatorship is this? A dictatorship would never allow this kind of policy for the benefit of the people.

Gadhafi wrote the Green Book, the Third Universal Theory, which deals with controversial and real issues. He complains, for example, about the falsification of democracy through parliamentary assemblies. In most countries that consider themselves democratic, including the United States of America, political parties are organized criminal gangs to loot the people's money in legislative assemblies, City Councils, House of Representatives, etc.

This observation - and a book in publication - certainly irritate and anger them? The defenders of parliamentary democracy? The Green Book, written by Gaddafi, says that workers should be involved and self-employed, and that the land must be of those who work it and those who live in the house. And power shall be exercised by the people directly, without intermediaries, without politicians, through popular congresses and committees, where the whole population decides the fundamental issues of the district, city and country. These words, which everyone knows are true, revolt and irritate those few who benefit from the falsification of democracy, especially the capitalist regimes.

But the press will keep on on forging the news, boiling hatred by spreading lies, because it is following orders from the U.S. government, very interested in the large oil reserves of Libya.

Major newspapers and television channels in the world use news agencies from the United States, all biased, misleading and deceptive. The lies that the news agencies sell buy public opinion, and most people? By naivete or misinformation they behave like puppets, repeating whatever the U.S. government determines and imposes.

This is not the first nor will it be the last, the Libyan Arab people face powerful foreign powers. Again the Libyan people will win, because they have the leadership of Muammar Qaddafi, an effective, strong and honorable guide.

*In a rare interview with Western journalists in January 1986, only months before the U.S. terrorist bombing of Libya, the Leader of the Revolution spoke frankly about his life and how he had been misunderstood by the West. Meeting the journalists in his tent he told of how he admired former US Presidents George Washington and Abraham Lincoln and of other world leaders he admires like "Egypt's late Gamal Abdul Nasser, India's Mahatma Gandhi, Sun Yat-Sen of China and Italy's Garibaldi and Mazzini." (Really, I'm a Nice Guy, Kate Dourian, Tripoli, Libya.)

He spoke of his favourite book The Outsider by British author Colin Wilson and others he likes such as Uncle Tom's Cabin and Roots. Throughout this interview the profound thinking and innate humanity of Muammar Qadhafi shone through.

He also stated in another interview: "I see the press as being the messengers between me and the world to tell them the truth."

Ma procitao i teks je pun supljina, ali kao sto rekoh, sve zavisi sa koje pozicije gledas odnosno sta hoces da dokazes .

[nosara]

Ma procitao i teks je pun supljina, ali kao sto rekoh, sve zavisi sa koje pozicije gledas odnosno sta hoces da dokazes .

[detroit-mercy]

Ma procitao i teks je pun supljina, ali kao sto rekoh, sve zavisi sa koje pozicije gledas odnosno sta hoces da dokazes .

[ultima_palabra]

Who is Muammar Gaddafi?
01.03.2011

by Antonio Cesar Oliveira

Balašević, Rajko Vasić i autor slikovnice "naš dedo Alija" nisu ovome ni do članaka

[jeza u ledja]

Ma procitao i teks je pun supljina, ali kao sto rekoh, sve zavisi sa koje pozicije gledas odnosno sta hoces da dokazes .

[Payton]

Gadafi - metak u glavu
Sadam - objesen

Ratko i Karadzic - provodice zadnje dane svog zivota uz najbolju medicinsku njegu...


Jbm ti demokratiju i zapad....

Eeee, pa Radovan i Ratko su rokali muslimane, to demokratija i zapad nagradjuju.

[ultima_palabra]

A Gadafi i Sadam su ubijali prezbiterijance i mormone

[Payton]

A Gadafi i Sadam su ubijali prezbiterijance i mormone

Gadafi i Sadam nisu dali svoju naftu pod uslovima koje zapad i demokratija traze. Samo to ih je glave kostalo, nista vise. Nikakva pobuna naroda ili neke druge gluposti...

[JoseMujica]

Payton de se odluči šta je preče nafta il muslimani?

zbunjuješ me

[fidoremilienko]

Ovdje ispada da je demokratija NUŽNA, odnosno MUST!

VIdim palamudi se već ima 10 stranica o tome kako Gadafi nije uveo demokratiju a mogao je. Puno godina, tačnije 40 i kusur na vlasti, a nije uložio u državu, nije uložio u demokratiju.....

vas demokratija, ljudska prava i slobode.

[amina55]

hahhah kad bih se nesto onako desilo kod nas pa pola bih Bosne moralo stradat koliko politicara imamo...

[Payton]

Payton de se odluči šta je preče nafta il muslimani?

zbunjuješ me

Jedno bez drugog ne ide nikako. Na teritoriji gdje su najvece rezerve nafte zive muslimani, za sve ostalo ti je potreban 11. septembar i NATO

Prosto ko pasulj.

[JoseMujica]

ja zato nešto kontam da smo i mi u BiH na 1,4 mil muslimana zaslužili barem 2-3 solidna izvora

Moraću malo utjecati na pdf. Religija na vjernike da ne zabušavaju

[Payton]

ja zato nešto kontam da smo i mi u BiH na 1,4 mil muslimana zaslužili barem 2-3 solidna izvora

Moraću malo utjecati na pdf. Religija na vjernike da ne zabušavaju

Sad je kasno za to

Sad cemo isto slusati vijesti iz Libije jos nekih 5 dana i onda kad se paraziti prikopcaju na izvore nece biti nikakvih vijesti.

Ehh, jos su Iran i Venecuela ostali.

[JoseMujica]

Pa jarane ti se upalio ko da će s tvoje bušotine naftu krasti?!

Ja bih prije na ovaj Shell galamio što nam se iz potaje uvaljuje...i to holandsko smeće..

dok dođu da kopaju trebaju im zavrat sjesti sva udruženja iz Srebrenice

[Payton]

Pa jarane ti se upalio ko da će s tvoje bušotine naftu krasti?!

Ako je tebi svejedno da oni to sve rade u kontekstu demokratije, slobode i ostalog sranja i to sve fino upakovano svakodnevno prikazuju u svojim medijima onda nisi nista bolji od njih.

Nepravda mi smeta, taman da je na mjesecu buse.

[JoseMujica]

ma nije to..... slažem se ja s tobom al mi je nekako bliža ova ovdje oko nas, svakodnevna..što je vidim dok kročim na ulicu nego brate ova s televizije.

Šta me neko ima uvjeravat jel ovaj ili onaj bolji illi ljepši ili veći hapac što je nekih 10.000 ilometara od mene kad ja imam Nebojšu, Bakira i Željku da biram za Mistera

Evo mi se satrasmo tabireći Libiju a šta je sa radnicima Granita, GRASS-a i inih firmi?

[detroit-mercy]

Pa jarane ti se upalio ko da će s tvoje bušotine naftu krasti?!

Ako je tebi svejedno da oni to sve rade u kontekstu demokratije, slobode i ostalog sranja i to sve fino upakovano svakodnevno prikazuju u svojim medijima onda nisi nista bolji od njih.

Nepravda mi smeta, taman da je na mjesecu buse.

Je li ti smetalo kada je bivsa drzava jaranovala sa najvecim diktatorima koji su uzgred tusili svoj narod kako su stigli i kada im je bivsa drzava tusila oruzje i orudje i sve drugo nimalo se ne interesujuci za sta je namijenjeno .
Vidis koliko ljudi ovdje zali za diktatorima samo zato sto su nase firme tamo radile i sto su se tolika nasa usta hranila . Znaci nije bitno sta si i ko si sve dok je meni dobro odnosno dok imam svoj interes moze proci. Jel mi dirnes u interes, nahebo si .