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#102 Re: Sirija vol. 2
Ako je verovati agenciji ANHA, pripadnici Jahbat al-Nusra & Ahrar al-Shama kidnapovali na desetine Kurda kod grada Azaza.
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http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2015/11/249511.htm
Statement of the International Syria Support Group
Media Note
Office of the Spokesperson
Washington, DC
November 14, 2015
Meeting in Vienna on November 14, 2015 as the International Syria Support Group (ISSG), the Arab League, China, Egypt, the EU, France, Germany, Iran, Iraq, Italy, Jordan, Lebanon, Oman, Qatar, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, the United Kingdom, the United Nations, and the United States to discuss how to accelerate an end to the Syrian conflict. The participants began with a moment of silence for the victims of the heinous terrorist attacks of November 13 in Paris and the recent attacks in Beirut, Iraq, Ankara, and Egypt. The members unanimously condemned in the strongest terms these brutal attacks against innocent civilians and stood with the people of France.
Subsequently, the participants engaged in a constructive dialogue to build upon the progress made in the October 30 gathering. The members of the ISSG expressed a unanimous sense of urgency to end the suffering of the Syrian people, the physical destruction of Syria, the destabilization of the region, and the resulting increase in terrorists drawn to the fighting in Syria.
The ISSG acknowledged the close linkage between a ceasefire and a parallel political process pursuant to the 2012 Geneva Communique, and that both initiatives should move ahead expeditiously. They stated their commitment to ensure a Syrian-led and Syrian-owned political transition based on the Geneva Communique in its entirety. The group reached a common understanding on several key issues.
The group agreed to support and work to implement a nationwide ceasefire in Syria to come into effect as soon as the representatives of the Syrian government and the opposition have begun initial steps towards the transition under UN auspices on the basis of the Geneva Communique. The five Permanent Members of the UN Security Council pledged to support a UNSC resolution to empower a UN-endorsed ceasefire monitoring mission in those parts of the country where monitors would not come under threat of attacks from terrorists, and to support a political transition process in accordance with the Geneva Communique.
All members of the ISSG also pledged as individual countries and supporters of various belligerents to take all possible steps to require adherence to the ceasefire by these groups or individuals they support, supply or influence. The ceasefire would not apply to offensive or defensive actions against Da’esh or Nusra or any other group the ISSG agrees to deem terrorist.
The participants welcomed UN Secretary General Ban’s statement that he has ordered the UN to accelerate planning for supporting the implementation of a nationwide ceasefire. The group agreed that the UN should lead the effort, in consultation with interested parties, to determine the requirements and modalities of a ceasefire.
The ISSG expressed willingness to take immediate steps to encourage confidence-building measures that would contribute to the viability of the political process and to pave the way for the nationwide ceasefire. In this context, and pursuant to clause 5 of the Vienna Communique, the ISSG discussed the need to take steps to ensure expeditious humanitarian access throughout the territory of Syria pursuant to UNSCR 2165 and called for the granting of the UN’s pending requests for humanitarian deliveries. The ISSG expressed concern for the plight of refugees and internally displaced persons and the imperative of building conditions for their safe return in accordance with the norms of international humanitarian law and taking into account the interests of host countries. The resolution of the refugee issue is important to the final settlement of the Syrian conflict. The ISSG also reaffirmed the devastating effects of the use of indiscriminate weapons on the civilian population and humanitarian access, as stated in UNSCR 2139. The ISSG agreed to press the parties to end immediately any use of such indiscriminate weapons.
The ISSG reaffirmed the importance of abiding by all relevant UN Security Council resolutions, including UNSCR 2199 on stopping the illegal trade in oil, antiquities and hostages, from which terrorists benefit.
Pursuant to the 2012 Geneva Communique, incorporated by reference in the Vienna statement of October 30, and in U.N. Security Council Resolution 2118, the ISSG agreed on the need to convene Syrian government and opposition representatives in formal negotiations under UN auspices, as soon as possible, with a target date of January 1. The group welcomed efforts, working with United Nations Special Envoy for Syria Staffan de Mistura and others, to bring together the broadest possible spectrum of the opposition, chosen by Syrians, who will decide their negotiating representatives and define their negotiating positions, so as to enable the political process to begin. All the parties to the political process should adhere to the guiding principles identified at the October 30 meeting, including a commitment to Syria’s unity, independence, territorial integrity, and non-sectarian character; to ensuring that State institutions remain intact; and to protecting the rights of all Syrians, regardless of ethnicity or religious denomination. ISSG members agreed that these principles are fundamental.
The ISSG members reaffirmed their support for the transition process contained in the 2012 Geneva Communique. In this respect they affirmed their support for a ceasefire as described above and for a Syrian-led process that will, within a target of six months, establish credible, inclusive and non-sectarian governance, and set a schedule and process for drafting a new constitution. Free and fair elections would be held pursuant to the new constitution within 18 months. These elections must be administered under UN supervision to the satisfaction of the governance and to the highest international standards of transparency and accountability, with all Syrians, including the diaspora, eligible to participate.
Regarding the fight against terrorism, and pursuant to clause 6 of the Vienna Communique, the ISSG reiterated that Da’esh, Nusra, and other terrorist groups, as designated by the UN Security Council, and further, as agreed by the participants and endorsed by the UN Security Council, must be defeated. The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan agreed to help develop among intelligence and military community representatives a common understanding of groups and individuals for possible determination as terrorists, with a target of completion by the beginning of the political process under UN auspices.
The participants expect to meet in approximately one month in order to review progress towards implementation of a ceasefire and the beginning of the political process.
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Dakle, nema podjele Sirije, ostaju državne institucije, uništava se isil, nusra i ostale terorističke grupe koje će proglasiti grupa pod vodstvom Jordana
Statement of the International Syria Support Group
Media Note
Office of the Spokesperson
Washington, DC
November 14, 2015
Meeting in Vienna on November 14, 2015 as the International Syria Support Group (ISSG), the Arab League, China, Egypt, the EU, France, Germany, Iran, Iraq, Italy, Jordan, Lebanon, Oman, Qatar, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, the United Kingdom, the United Nations, and the United States to discuss how to accelerate an end to the Syrian conflict. The participants began with a moment of silence for the victims of the heinous terrorist attacks of November 13 in Paris and the recent attacks in Beirut, Iraq, Ankara, and Egypt. The members unanimously condemned in the strongest terms these brutal attacks against innocent civilians and stood with the people of France.
Subsequently, the participants engaged in a constructive dialogue to build upon the progress made in the October 30 gathering. The members of the ISSG expressed a unanimous sense of urgency to end the suffering of the Syrian people, the physical destruction of Syria, the destabilization of the region, and the resulting increase in terrorists drawn to the fighting in Syria.
The ISSG acknowledged the close linkage between a ceasefire and a parallel political process pursuant to the 2012 Geneva Communique, and that both initiatives should move ahead expeditiously. They stated their commitment to ensure a Syrian-led and Syrian-owned political transition based on the Geneva Communique in its entirety. The group reached a common understanding on several key issues.
The group agreed to support and work to implement a nationwide ceasefire in Syria to come into effect as soon as the representatives of the Syrian government and the opposition have begun initial steps towards the transition under UN auspices on the basis of the Geneva Communique. The five Permanent Members of the UN Security Council pledged to support a UNSC resolution to empower a UN-endorsed ceasefire monitoring mission in those parts of the country where monitors would not come under threat of attacks from terrorists, and to support a political transition process in accordance with the Geneva Communique.
All members of the ISSG also pledged as individual countries and supporters of various belligerents to take all possible steps to require adherence to the ceasefire by these groups or individuals they support, supply or influence. The ceasefire would not apply to offensive or defensive actions against Da’esh or Nusra or any other group the ISSG agrees to deem terrorist.
The participants welcomed UN Secretary General Ban’s statement that he has ordered the UN to accelerate planning for supporting the implementation of a nationwide ceasefire. The group agreed that the UN should lead the effort, in consultation with interested parties, to determine the requirements and modalities of a ceasefire.
The ISSG expressed willingness to take immediate steps to encourage confidence-building measures that would contribute to the viability of the political process and to pave the way for the nationwide ceasefire. In this context, and pursuant to clause 5 of the Vienna Communique, the ISSG discussed the need to take steps to ensure expeditious humanitarian access throughout the territory of Syria pursuant to UNSCR 2165 and called for the granting of the UN’s pending requests for humanitarian deliveries. The ISSG expressed concern for the plight of refugees and internally displaced persons and the imperative of building conditions for their safe return in accordance with the norms of international humanitarian law and taking into account the interests of host countries. The resolution of the refugee issue is important to the final settlement of the Syrian conflict. The ISSG also reaffirmed the devastating effects of the use of indiscriminate weapons on the civilian population and humanitarian access, as stated in UNSCR 2139. The ISSG agreed to press the parties to end immediately any use of such indiscriminate weapons.
The ISSG reaffirmed the importance of abiding by all relevant UN Security Council resolutions, including UNSCR 2199 on stopping the illegal trade in oil, antiquities and hostages, from which terrorists benefit.
Pursuant to the 2012 Geneva Communique, incorporated by reference in the Vienna statement of October 30, and in U.N. Security Council Resolution 2118, the ISSG agreed on the need to convene Syrian government and opposition representatives in formal negotiations under UN auspices, as soon as possible, with a target date of January 1. The group welcomed efforts, working with United Nations Special Envoy for Syria Staffan de Mistura and others, to bring together the broadest possible spectrum of the opposition, chosen by Syrians, who will decide their negotiating representatives and define their negotiating positions, so as to enable the political process to begin. All the parties to the political process should adhere to the guiding principles identified at the October 30 meeting, including a commitment to Syria’s unity, independence, territorial integrity, and non-sectarian character; to ensuring that State institutions remain intact; and to protecting the rights of all Syrians, regardless of ethnicity or religious denomination. ISSG members agreed that these principles are fundamental.
The ISSG members reaffirmed their support for the transition process contained in the 2012 Geneva Communique. In this respect they affirmed their support for a ceasefire as described above and for a Syrian-led process that will, within a target of six months, establish credible, inclusive and non-sectarian governance, and set a schedule and process for drafting a new constitution. Free and fair elections would be held pursuant to the new constitution within 18 months. These elections must be administered under UN supervision to the satisfaction of the governance and to the highest international standards of transparency and accountability, with all Syrians, including the diaspora, eligible to participate.
Regarding the fight against terrorism, and pursuant to clause 6 of the Vienna Communique, the ISSG reiterated that Da’esh, Nusra, and other terrorist groups, as designated by the UN Security Council, and further, as agreed by the participants and endorsed by the UN Security Council, must be defeated. The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan agreed to help develop among intelligence and military community representatives a common understanding of groups and individuals for possible determination as terrorists, with a target of completion by the beginning of the political process under UN auspices.
The participants expect to meet in approximately one month in order to review progress towards implementation of a ceasefire and the beginning of the political process.
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Dakle, nema podjele Sirije, ostaju državne institucije, uništava se isil, nusra i ostale terorističke grupe koje će proglasiti grupa pod vodstvom Jordana
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Challenger__
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#104 Re: Sirija vol. 2
Daće Melika i EU 100 milijardi Eura za obnovu Sirije, a Vladimiru vascijelu Ukrajinu, samo da se kutarišu muhadžira. Ha,ha... Dođe mi da se smijem.
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Ironmen
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#105 Re: Sirija vol. 2
Ma tesko ce doci do toga pa jbt svako selo i naselje imaju svog vodju i neku naoruzanu gurpu previse je tu podjela da se sad prica odjednom o Siriju u cijelosti.
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#106 Re: Sirija vol. 2
walter kurtz wrote:Nije ali ga svako malo ko qasima ubijuGeneral War wrote:walter kurtz wrote: Ja ove godine brku oplakao 80 x
Pa dobro, jel brko rika sad ili nije?
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#107 Re: Sirija vol. 2
Polako će se neredi seliti na jug, na izvor problema. Biće sve OK, samo polako.
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zrakomlat
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#108 Re: Sirija vol. 2
Nemoj bolan tako o našoj FSAIronmen wrote:Ma tesko ce doci do toga pa jbt svako selo i naselje imaju svog vodju i neku naoruzanu gurpu previse je tu podjela da se sad prica odjednom o Siriju u cijelosti.
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#109 Re: Sirija vol. 2
Challenger__ wrote:Daće Melika i EU 100 milijardi Eura za obnovu Sirije, a Vladimiru vascijelu Ukrajinu, samo da se kutarišu muhadžira. Ha,ha... Dođe mi da se smijem.
Bio je neki general u Grčkoj, godinu prije nego što se Cipiripi pojavio, rekao je otprilike ovo: ako nas Njemačka bude zajebavala, pustićemo migrante na njih!
Ne mogu da vjerujem, al fakat, da je ona krmača Merkel ovakvu glupost napravila. Sahranila je i Njemačku i EU. A Oland ne smije da prizna da je igrao kako ona svira.
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#110 Re: Sirija vol. 2
Oh my god they killed qasimzrakomlat wrote:
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#111 Re: Sirija vol. 2
Vidi stari... Vjeruj mi, u životu nisam napisao riječ o Grčkoj do pojave Ciprasa. Zato što su grčku političku scenu uzurpirale dvije porodice, Karamanlis i Papadopulos, odnosno narodnjaci (Nea Dimokratia) i socijalisti (PASOK). Znači, totalno sivilo. Siriza i Aleksis su unijeli svjež dah i novu perspektivu ne samo u Grčkoj, nego na globalnoj ravni. Dakle, hvalim ih, ali... Još uvijek nisam siguran da li je Melika ispala koza, ili je dio tima.
To je još uvijek zagonetka.
To je još uvijek zagonetka.
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#112 Re: Sirija vol. 2
Bastards!!!zrakomlat wrote:
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#113 Re: Sirija vol. 2
Koza. Precijenili smo je. Od suverenog lidera Evrope dovela je Njemačku do situacije u kojoj ih i Miroslav Lajčak odjebe dvaput sedmično.Challenger__ wrote:Vidi stari... Vjeruj mi, u životu nisam napisao riječ o Grčkoj do pojave Ciprasa. Zato što su grčku političku scenu uzurpirale dvije porodice, Karamanlis i Papadopulos, odnosno narodnjaci (Nea Dimokratia) i socijalisti (PASOK). Znači, totalno sivilo. Siriza i Aleksis su unijeli svjež dah i novu perspektivu ne samo u Grčkoj, nego na globalnoj ravni. Dakle, hvalim ih, ali... Još uvijek nisam siguran da li je Melika ispala koza, ili je dio tima.
To je još uvijek zagonetka.
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#114 Re: Sirija vol. 2
kasim svako malo ovako
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#116 Re: Sirija vol. 2
Maystor wrote:Koza. Precijenili smo je. Od suverenog lidera Evrope dovela je Njemačku do situacije u kojoj ih i Miroslav Lajčak odjebe dvaput sedmično.
Dakle, mediokritet, LooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooL!
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#117 Re: Sirija vol. 2
Kad smo na forumu postavljali slike terorista kako presvučeni odlaze u Njemačku kao izbjeglice, proglašavali su nas paranoicima. Dođe im umjereni terorista glave:
23:30 Jedan od terorista koji je sijao smrt u Parizu prešao je cijelu balkansku migrantsku rutu sa sirijskim pasošem na ime Ahmed Almuhamed, otkriva Blic.
Kako su grčki zvaničnici već objavili, Almuhamed je ušao na teritoriju Grčke 3. oktobra. Saznaje se da je na teritoriju Srbije ušao 7. oktobra kod Miratovca, iz Makedonije. Prošao je kontradiverzionu provjeru, pa se pouzdano zna da tokom kratkog proputovanja kroz Srbiju nije bio naoružan.
Registrovan je u centru u Preševu, gdje je formalno zatražio azil. Nastavio je put i ubrzo napustio Srbiju i ušao u Hrvatsku i dalje u Austriju.
- See more at: http://m.avaz.ba/clanak/205096/napad-na ... rvweu.dpuf
23:30 Jedan od terorista koji je sijao smrt u Parizu prešao je cijelu balkansku migrantsku rutu sa sirijskim pasošem na ime Ahmed Almuhamed, otkriva Blic.
Kako su grčki zvaničnici već objavili, Almuhamed je ušao na teritoriju Grčke 3. oktobra. Saznaje se da je na teritoriju Srbije ušao 7. oktobra kod Miratovca, iz Makedonije. Prošao je kontradiverzionu provjeru, pa se pouzdano zna da tokom kratkog proputovanja kroz Srbiju nije bio naoružan.
Registrovan je u centru u Preševu, gdje je formalno zatražio azil. Nastavio je put i ubrzo napustio Srbiju i ušao u Hrvatsku i dalje u Austriju.
- See more at: http://m.avaz.ba/clanak/205096/napad-na ... rvweu.dpuf
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#118 Re: Sirija vol. 2
Žestoko lupanje u Alepu. U jednom objektu zijanila 23 nusrića. Prelijep dan.
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#119 Re: Sirija vol. 2
Onih par slika "terorista" su bili pripadnici Assadove vojske i milicije, koliko se ja sjecam...Maystor wrote:Kad smo na forumu postavljali slike terorista kako presvučeni odlaze u Njemačku kao izbjeglice, proglašavali su nas paranoicima. Dođe im umjereni terorista glave:
23:30 Jedan od terorista koji je sijao smrt u Parizu prešao je cijelu balkansku migrantsku rutu sa sirijskim pasošem na ime Ahmed Almuhamed, otkriva Blic.
Kako su grčki zvaničnici već objavili, Almuhamed je ušao na teritoriju Grčke 3. oktobra. Saznaje se da je na teritoriju Srbije ušao 7. oktobra kod Miratovca, iz Makedonije. Prošao je kontradiverzionu provjeru, pa se pouzdano zna da tokom kratkog proputovanja kroz Srbiju nije bio naoružan.
Registrovan je u centru u Preševu, gdje je formalno zatražio azil. Nastavio je put i ubrzo napustio Srbiju i ušao u Hrvatsku i dalje u Austriju.
- See more at: http://m.avaz.ba/clanak/205096/napad-na ... rvweu.dpuf
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#120 Re: Sirija vol. 2
Izgleda da je istina.Čitalac wrote:Ako je verovati agenciji ANHA, pripadnici Jahbat al-Nusra & Ahrar al-Shama kidnapovali na desetine Kurda kod grada Azaza.
Po nekim navodima, Nusra i Ahrar Sham pripremaju veliku ofanzivu na Efrin.
Ne znam samo otkud im borci ako se zna da ih pritisce ISIL na sjeveru i SAA na jugu. Mada, vjerski fanatici i logika...
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#121 Re: Sirija vol. 2
Sirijski građani u predgrađu Damaska iz Doume koji su žrtve zločinačkog režima solidarišu se sa žrtvama koji su poginuli u masakru u Parizu:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 0796315726
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 0796315726
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#122 Re: Sirija vol. 2
Francuski visokopozicionirani obvještajni oficiri otputovali za Damask. Odnio vrag šalu.
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#123 Re: Sirija vol. 2
otisli ucit
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#124 Re: Sirija vol. 2
đe si to vidioarman1 wrote:Francuski visokopozicionirani obvještajni oficiri otputovali za Damask. Odnio vrag šalu.
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#125 Re: Sirija vol. 2
U ponedeljak barel bombe počinju bacati po imigrantskim predgrađima Pariza, i naručuju par SukhojaBlack swan wrote:otisli ucit