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ljudi ja vjerujem da je na pomolu izbijanje općeg rata...

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ali i uništavanje je oblik stvaranja... valjda će za 500 godina doći civilizacija mira, napretka i sreće za svakog čovjeka :roll:
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ali i uništavanje je oblik stvaranja... valjda će za 500 godina doći civilizacija mira, napretka i sreće za svakog čovjeka
nece, mi kao ljudi to ne zasluzujemo.
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Newsweek Retracts Story on Quran Abuse
By SETH SUTEL, AP Business Writer
2 hours ago

NEW YORK - Newsweek magazine, under fire for publishing a story that led to deadly protests in Afghanistan, said Monday it was retracting its report that a military probe had found evidence of desecration of the Quran by U.S. interrogators at Guantanamo Bay.

Earlier Monday, Bush administration officials had brushed off an apology that Newsweek's editor Mark Whitaker had made in an editor's note and criticized the magazine's handling of the story.

Protests broke out across much of the Muslim world last week after Newsweek reported that U.S. investigators found evidence that interrogators had flushed a copy of Muslim's holy book down a toilet in an attempt to rattle detainees. The violence left about 15 dead and scores injured in Afghanistan.

"It's appalling that this story got out there," Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said as she traveled home from Iraq.

"People lost their lives. People are dead," Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said on Capitol Hill. "People need to be very careful about what they say, just as they need to be careful about what they do."

Following the criticism, Whitaker released a statement through a spokesman later Monday saying the magazine was retracting the article.

"Based on what we know now, we are retracting our original story that an internal military investigation had uncovered Quran abuse at Guantanamo Bay," Whitaker said.

White House press secretary Scott McClellan called Newsweek's retraction "a good first step" but said it could not repair all the damage that had been done.

"The report had real consequences," McClellan said. "People have lost their lives. Our image abroad has been damaged. There are some who are opposed to the United States and what we stand for who have sought to exploit this allegation."

McClellan said the Pentagon had looked into the allegations initially and found nothing to substantiate them. "They continue to look into it," he said.

Newsweek had reported in its issue dated May 9 that U.S. military investigators had found evidence that interrogators placed copies of Islam's holy book in washrooms and had flushed one down the toilet to get inmates to talk.

Whitaker had written in a note to readers that "We regret that we got any part of our story wrong, and extend our sympathies to victims of the violence and to the U.S. soldiers caught in its midst."

Whitaker said in his note that while other news organizations had aired charges of Quran abuse based on the testimony of detainees, the magazine decided to publish a short item after hearing from an unnamed U.S. official that a government probe had found evidence corroborating the charges.

But on Friday, a top Pentagon spokesman told the magazine that a review of the military's investigation concluded "it was never meant to look into charges of Quran desecration."

The spokesman also said the Pentagon had looked into other charges by detainees that the Quran had been desecrated and found them to be "not credible."

Whitaker added that the magazine's original source later said he could not be sure he read about the alleged Quran incident in the report Newsweek cited, and that it might have been in another document. Whitaker said the magazine was still looking into the charges.

Many of the 520 inmates at Guantanamo are Muslims arrested during the U.S.-led war against the Taliban and its al-Qaida allies in Afghanistan.

In Afghanistan, Islamic scholars and tribal elders called for the punishment of anyone found to have abused the Quran, said Maulawi Abdul Wali Arshad, head of the religious affairs department in Badakhshan province.

Arshad and the provincial police chief said the scholars met in Faizabad, 310 miles northeast of the capital, Kabul, and demanded a "reaction" from U.S. authorities within three days.

Lebanon's most senior Shiite Muslim cleric on Sunday said the reported desecration of the Quran is part of an American campaign aimed at disrespecting and smearing Islam.

In a statement faxed to The Associated Press, Grand Ayatollah Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah called the alleged desecration a "brutal" form of torture and urged Muslims and international human rights organizations "to raise their voices loudly against the American behavior."

On Saturday, Pakistan's President Gen. Pervez Musharraf and Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz, both allies of Washington, demanded an investigation and punishment for those behind the reported desecration of the Quran.

The story also sparked protests in Pakistan, Yemen and the Gaza Strip. The 22-nation Arab League issued a statement saying if the allegations panned out, Washington should apologize to Muslims.

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Cuo sam sada na vijestima, da je Newsweek totalno povukao od tog clanka. Izvinili su se novinari sto su potrcali a sto nisu prvo provjerili tu vijest. U ostalom zar to nije najbolja vijest. Novinari su napravili veliku gresku u svome poslu, ali na kraju svega Kuran nije otisao u WC solju. To je za mene dobra vijest i bolje da su novinari poletjeli sa tom vijesti nego da ta vijest ima istine u sebi.

A mozda nakon 2 nedelje se upostavi da je istina, ali sve do tada Newsweek se zajebao i to dobro.
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Senzacionalizam......isto ko za bushov military record. Polete pa pojedu govno. Samo sto je to govno kostalo nevinih zivota u afganistanu :(
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Ah stas takav ti je zivot, cupav i dlakav... Mozda je Amerika na kraju izvukla deblji kraj, veca je mrznja prema njoj sada, nego sto je do sada bila. Iako nemogu da svatim kako ikako moze da bude veca. :roll: Ali kada se ovako nesto izvali, moze ocigledno.

Eh blago onima u Guantanamo ostrvu, suncaju se. Nadam se da im cuvari dadnu kremu za sunce.
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Muslims don't believe Qur'an story retraction



Kabul - Muslims in Afghanistan and Pakistan were sceptical on Monday about an apparent retraction by Newsweek magazine of a report that US interrogators had desecrated the Qur'an in Guantanamo Bay.

The report in Newsweek's May 9 issue sparked protests across the Muslim world, from Afghanistan, where 16 people were killed and more than 100 injured, to Pakistan, India, Indonesia and Gaza.

Newsweek said on Sunday that the report might not be true.

"We will not be deceived by this," Islamic cleric Mullah Sadullah Abu Aman said in the northern Afghan province of Badakhshan, referring to the retraction. "This is a decision by America to save itself."

'This is a decision by America to save itself'
Aman was the leader of a group of clerics who on Sunday vowed to call for a holy war against the United States in three days unless it handed over the interrogators responsible for desecrating the holy book.

The call for a jihad, or holy war, still stood, he said.

Pakistan reiterated its demand for a probe into the alleged desecration of the Qur'an, despite an apology by the magazine.

"We have asked for a thorough investigation to be conducted by the US administration and we expect the results to be shared," foreign ministry spokesperson Jalil Abbas Jilani said.

Last week's bloody anti-US protests across Afghanistan were the worst since US forces invaded to oust the Taliban for sheltering Osama bin Laden in 2001.

'We have asked for a thorough investigation to be conducted by the US administration'
Pakistan, a key ally in the US-led war on terrorism, had said earlier that it was "deeply dismayed" about the report.

On Saturday, President Pervez Musharraf and Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz demanded "exemplary punishment" for those behind the desecration.

Newsweek had said that investigators probing abuses at the US military prison at Guantanamo Bay had found that interrogators "had placed Qur'ans on toilets, and in at least one case flushed a holy book down the toilet".

Muslims consider the Qur'an the literal word of God and treat each book with deep reverence.

Newsweek said its information had come from a "knowledgeable government source" who told the magazine that a military report on abuse at Guantanamo Bay said interrogators had flushed at least one copy of the Qur'an down a toilet in a bid to make detainees talk.

But, according to Newsweek, the source later said that he could not be certain that he had seen an account of the incident in the military report. It might have been in other investigative documents or drafts, he said.

Afghans were unconvinced.

"It's not acceptable now that the magazine says it's made a mistake," said Hafizullah Torab, 42, a writer in the eastern Afghan city of Jalalabad, where the protests began last Tuesday.

"Possibly, the American government put pressure on the magazine to issue the retraction to avoid the anger of Muslims," said Sayed Elyas Sedaqat, who heads a cultural group in the city.

In Pakistan, a religious party said it was going ahead with a call for protests on May 27.

"Newsweek is backtracking, but it's not just their report," said Ghaffar Aziz, a top official of the Jamaat-e-Islami party.

"All innocent people released from US custody have said on the record that there was desecration of the Qur'an," he said.

In Kabul, a US military spokesperson told a news briefing the Newsweek retraction had no bearing on the US position.

"Any disrespect to the Qur'an and any other religion is not tolerated by our culture," said Colonel Jim Yonts. - Reuters-Sapa-AP


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To je jedno, a druga stvar je u tome sto ovdje ima poprilicno glupih ljudi koji i dalje vjeruju u ono sto im Amerikanci serviraju...Amerikanci znaju sta bi se sve moglo poceti desavati, te povlace pricu u nadi da nece doci do daljeg hausa, te iz tog razloga Kur'an jeste bio oskrnavljen...Sami nacin kako tito punih usta i sa dragoscu ispisuje rijeci Kur'an i WC solja pokazuje njegovu mrznju prema muslimana, al o tom po tom...
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Polazeći od činjenice da je američka politika ustvari zidovsko-cionistička politika tj da se između SAD i Izraela moze staviti znak jednakosti,onda je donekle moguce objasniti ovaj nemili događaj.
Realizatori ideje "SIONSKIH MUDRACA" su pripadnici naroda na koje se Bog rasrdio.Evo jednog objasnjenja ZASTO.
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Sami nacin kako tito punih usta i sa dragoscu ispisuje rijeci Kur'an i WC solja pokazuje njegovu mrznju prema muslimana, al o tom po tom...
Ja ne mrzim muslimane, musliman sam. :-D Nego ovaj, ja se nadam da je to laz, jer onda znaci da toga nije doslo. Padne avion i pogine tvoja rodbina. I onda dobijes poziv nakon pet sati, kazu ti ej izvini ali se mi zeznuli oni su zivi, pronasli smo ih. Ja se nadam i zelim da je istina da se Newsweek zeznuo.
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komi wrote:ljudi ja vjerujem da je na pomolu izbijanje općeg rata...

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ali i uništavanje je oblik stvaranja... valjda će za 500 godina doći civilizacija mira, napretka i sreće za svakog čovjeka :roll:

:? :P sad znam kako izgleda kad se juce rodis .. fino do mora
ali to sad nema veze.. jer me ova recenica sRRelau pogresnopm trenutku.. za loncem kafe u stvari..pa se ima vremena kopati po sjecanju :D a bogme i obrazovanju.. i ne mogu naci ovu civilizaciju koju spominje komi .. trebalo bi da je postojala par puta do sada, ako je uopste mislila postojati ?
samo ja ne mogu da je nadjem
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:D:D:D

Cici je zakon :)


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#37 a šta da radim

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Neznam ljudi obično se brče kako su Amerikanci novi krstaši, ma njihništa ne interesuje sem novca i tome je sve podredjeno.Ko se nadje natom putu biće sklonjen a što se tiče skrnavljena Kurana pa Amerika nema svetinja i to je to,medjutim pojedini muslimani svijeta to nisu shvatili na vrijeme nego su likovali od sreće kada je Irak napadnut kao da se zaštiti Kuvajt,pa Somalija,pa Srbija e pa svi će doći na red...
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