Od Sarajlija redovno cujem izraz "do zla Boga", a cuo sam i od Zemicana i jednog iz Konjica,... Neznam dali se jos negdje tako govori. Znaci centralna Bosna do sada koliko znam.
Neznam jeli ovo pravi podforum za takvu pitanje, ali neznam gdje bi inace stavio.
Taj izraz mi je interesantan jer jedino korjen mogu naci u praznovjerju, paganizmu, bogumilstvu,... Dali je moguce da se taj izraz toliko dugo sacuvao sve vjekove,... ili je proizvod novijeg vremena. Cujem ga i od penzionera,.. pa opet nemogu zamisliti nikakav trend ni prije vise decenija gdje bi se udomacio izraz "do zla Boga" koji je na naki nacin bogohulan i izaziva aversiju kod vjernika.
Znali neko ista o tome,... ?
Primjeri:
vristi do zla Boga,
tjera ga do zla Boga,
dosadilo do zla Boga,....
Porjeklo izraza "do zla Boga".
-
- Posts: 3459
- Joined: 22/01/2003 00:00
- Location: apatrid
#2 Re: Porjeklo izraza "do zla Boga".
Èuo sam i ja da kako je jedan moj o'sov'o troboga... Kol'ko bi to moglo bit' staro?Orbini wrote: Taj izraz mi je interesantan jer jedino korjen mogu naci u praznovjerju, paganizmu, bogumilstvu,... Dali je moguce da se taj izraz toliko dugo sacuvao sve vjekove,... ili je proizvod novijeg vremena.
- Neelix
- Posts: 11864
- Joined: 15/12/2006 14:08
- Location: Ostani uz mene, i puni mi redenik
- Contact:
#7 Re: Porjeklo izraza "do zla Boga".
i ja sam cuo za psovanje supe od bozjih kostiju... svakakvih likova, a autor teme postavlja neodgovoriva pitanjasulesavic wrote:Čuo sam i ja da kako je jedan moj o'sov'o troboga... Kol'ko bi to moglo bit' staro?Orbini wrote: Taj izraz mi je interesantan jer jedino korjen mogu naci u praznovjerju, paganizmu, bogumilstvu,... Dali je moguce da se taj izraz toliko dugo sacuvao sve vjekove,... ili je proizvod novijeg vremena.
- Topla voda
- Posts: 8148
- Joined: 06/11/2006 23:59
- Location: Auberge
#8
ma ima garant veze s bogumilskim dualizmom...ne kontam sta bi drugo moglo biti
-
- Posts: 1100
- Joined: 26/07/2003 00:00
#9
Pa ovo je nevjerovatno
A veneration of this deity perhaps survived in folklore of several Slavic nations. In some South Slavic vernaculars, there exists an interesting phrase do zla boga (meaning "to [the] evil god," or perhaps "to [the] evil [of] God," which may denote ownership rather than some dark attribute), used as an attribute to express something which is exceedingly negative. No-one is really aware of the literal meaning of these words anymore; exclamations such as Ovo je do zla boga dosadno!, To je do zla boga glupo! can be safely translated as "This is devilishly boring!", "That is immensely stupid!" without any klix loss in meaning. The word Bog ("God"), however, in all Slavic languages today is used as personal name of the Christian God, who is not considered evil; thus, the expression zli bog, "evil god", could be a relic from pagan antiquity. If we assume that Chernobog indeed was an evil and dark god of the ancient Slavs (or perhaps merely an evil aspect of some other deity), we may conjecture this expression was some ancient curse invoking him.
Zar je moguce da se izraz sacuvao vise od 1000 god.?
I to samo u centralnoj Bosni?
-
- Posts: 439
- Joined: 29/08/2003 00:00
- Location: Neverwhere
#11
U sjeveroistocnoj, takodjeOrbini wrote:Pa ovo je nevjerovatno
A veneration of this deity perhaps survived in folklore of several Slavic nations. In some South Slavic vernaculars, there exists an interesting phrase do zla boga (meaning "to [the] evil god," or perhaps "to [the] evil [of] God," which may denote ownership rather than some dark attribute), used as an attribute to express something which is exceedingly negative. No-one is really aware of the literal meaning of these words anymore; exclamations such as Ovo je do zla boga dosadno!, To je do zla boga glupo! can be safely translated as "This is devilishly boring!", "That is immensely stupid!" without any klix loss in meaning. The word Bog ("God"), however, in all Slavic languages today is used as personal name of the Christian God, who is not considered evil; thus, the expression zli bog, "evil god", could be a relic from pagan antiquity. If we assume that Chernobog indeed was an evil and dark god of the ancient Slavs (or perhaps merely an evil aspect of some other deity), we may conjecture this expression was some ancient curse invoking him.
Zar je moguce da se izraz sacuvao vise od 1000 god.?
I to samo u centralnoj Bosni?
-
- Posts: 229
- Joined: 03/01/2005 17:11
#12
I u Hercegovini, Slaveni su na ovim prostorima (BiH) opstali kao nigdje drugdje...guardian wrote:U sjeveroistocnoj, takodjeOrbini wrote:Pa ovo je nevjerovatno
A veneration of this deity perhaps survived in folklore of several Slavic nations. In some South Slavic vernaculars, there exists an interesting phrase do zla boga (meaning "to [the] evil god," or perhaps "to [the] evil [of] God," which may denote ownership rather than some dark attribute), used as an attribute to express something which is exceedingly negative. No-one is really aware of the literal meaning of these words anymore; exclamations such as Ovo je do zla boga dosadno!, To je do zla boga glupo! can be safely translated as "This is devilishly boring!", "That is immensely stupid!" without any klix loss in meaning. The word Bog ("God"), however, in all Slavic languages today is used as personal name of the Christian God, who is not considered evil; thus, the expression zli bog, "evil god", could be a relic from pagan antiquity. If we assume that Chernobog indeed was an evil and dark god of the ancient Slavs (or perhaps merely an evil aspect of some other deity), we may conjecture this expression was some ancient curse invoking him.
Zar je moguce da se izraz sacuvao vise od 1000 god.?
I to samo u centralnoj Bosni?
- burekodsira
- Posts: 3535
- Joined: 09/07/2006 00:23
#13
izraz se koristi ponekad i u gz sto ti biva istocna bosna