dobra utakmica preksinoc pravo bila
kako je krenulo, najvjerovatnije ce i biti finale san antonio - detroit jer su ekipe premocne, mora se priznati
moj favorit je, zna se, san antonio i ocekujem da osvoje titulu
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Neelix
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#377
e moj jasale 
ne bih volio da uzmu samo zbog bowena 
utah mi je najdraza od ekipa koje su ostale 
a detroit je sinoc imao vise srece nego znanja...
kad su protiv clevelanda zbacili 78, koliko li ce protiv san antonia...
koja smrt od kosarke ce to bit
ne bih volio da uzmu samo zbog bowena utah mi je najdraza od ekipa koje su ostale a detroit je sinoc imao vise srece nego znanja...kad su protiv clevelanda zbacili 78, koliko li ce protiv san antonia...
koja smrt od kosarke ce to bit
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BoiinK
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#379
Jos kad bi on pojaco Bullse dze bi bio kraj. Chicago je bas odero NY sa Edy Currijem. Imali su porslogodisnji pik, imaju zamjenu za ovaj pik, znaci u sustini 2 igraca vjerovatno birana medju prvih deset.
Inace slazem se sa ostalima mislim da je Detroit i San Antonio finale neminovno iako su oba tima u padu mocnosti posebno Detroit kojem je ovo mozda i zadnja fora.
dze bi bio kraj. Chicago je bas odero NY sa Edy Currijem. Imali su porslogodisnji pik, imaju zamjenu za ovaj pik, znaci u sustini 2 igraca vjerovatno birana medju prvih deset. Inace slazem se sa ostalima mislim da je Detroit i San Antonio finale neminovno iako su oba tima u padu mocnosti posebno Detroit kojem je ovo mozda i zadnja fora.
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alphonse kauders
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#380
Ajj, niđe veze, Boston i Memphis kao najgori timovi ispušili foru;))
Dakle, prvi pick ide Portlandu (vjerovatno uzimaju Odena, jer imaju Randolpha kao PF i Aldrige-a na SF). a drugi pick ode u Seatlle i vidi sad ove trojke - Allen, Lewis, Durant - uh, zahebano.
Zapad se ovim dodatno pojačao s obzirom da tek treći pick ide Atlanti i biće još veća razlika između E i W, ali hajde, vidjećemo:)
Dakle, prvi pick ide Portlandu (vjerovatno uzimaju Odena, jer imaju Randolpha kao PF i Aldrige-a na SF). a drugi pick ode u Seatlle i vidi sad ove trojke - Allen, Lewis, Durant - uh, zahebano.
Zapad se ovim dodatno pojačao s obzirom da tek treći pick ide Atlanti i biće još veća razlika između E i W, ali hajde, vidjećemo:)
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Comrad
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#383
Pa ne bi bio fazon, ne bi onda mogli praviti showkaranana wrote:Ovaj sistem je karina. Zasto se uopste lottery i radi? Zasto se ne radi kao i u ostalim americkim pro-sportovima? Najgori tim dobija prvi pick i onda ide po rezultatima do tima sa najboljim rekordom.
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alphonse kauders
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#388
ne brini, biće večeras cavs-pistons..Neelix wrote:pa majku im jebem, jel to bila sinoc utakmica
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alphonse kauders
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#391
i onda sinoć u pola 1 spucaju reprizu san antonio-utah, ma sjajno..
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#394
Bryant asks for trade from Lakers
By JOHN NADEL, AP Sports Writer
May 30, 2007
Los Angeles Lakers' Kobe Bryant, left, and head coach Phil Jackson go in different directions after a timeout in the closing moments of the fourth quarter of an NBA playoff basketball game in this April 22, 2007 file photo at the U.S. Airways Center in Phoenix. Bryant asked to be traded from the Lakers on Wednesday, a day after calling the team's front office "a mess." "I would like to be traded, yeah," Bryant told ESPN radio. "Tough as it is to come to that conclusion there's no other alternative, you know?"
AP - May 30, 1:10 pm EDT
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LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Kobe Bryant asked to be traded from the Lakers on Wednesday, a day after calling the team's front office "a mess." He said there was nothing the Lakers could do to change his mind.
"I would like to be traded, yeah," Bryant told ESPN radio. "Tough as it is to come to that conclusion there's no other alternative. It's rough man, but I don't see how you can rebuild that trust. I just don't know how you can move forward in that type of situation."
Bryant, who helped the Lakers win three consecutive NBA championships, has four years left on the seven-year, $136.4 million contract he signed July 15, 2004. That was a day after Shaquille O'Neal was traded to the Miami Heat.
Bryant became infuriated Tuesday when a Los Angeles Times columnist quoted what he called a Lakers insider as saying it was Bryant's insistence on getting away from O'Neal that prompted the trade to Miami.
Bryant, the NBA's leading scorer the past two seasons, said he spoke with Phil Jackson on Tuesday, and the coach told him he was being let go because the Lakers were committed to reducing payroll and rebuilding long term.
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"They said nothing to me about a long-term plan -- absolutely nothing," Bryant told KLAC radio, the Lakers' flagship station. "They told Phil one thing and they told me another. Actions speak louder than words."
"It's a trust thing," he added. "They're in a long-term plan that I had no idea about."
The Lakers and Bryant's agent, Rob Pelinka, did not immediately respond to messages left by The Associated Press.
Bryant, an 11-year veteran who turns 29 in August, urged the team at season's end to do what it takes to get back into contention. He essentially repeated those comments last weekend in an interview with the Los Angeles Times.
On Sunday, he suggested former Lakers general manager Jerry West should return. West left the team in the summer of 2000 and was succeeded by current GM Mitch Kupchak.
West, an employee of the Lakers for about 40 years as a player, coach and executive, is under contract as the Memphis Grizzlies' president until July 1. He turned 69 this week and has remained a close friend of Kupchak's. West has said he has "no plans to seek employment with any other organization."
It was West who brought Bryant to the Lakers, trading center Vlade Divac to Charlotte in the summer of 1996 for the rights to Bryant -- the 13th pick in the NBA draft. Bryant was only 17 at the time.
On Tuesday, Bryant did a series of radio interviews bashing the Lakers. He contended owner Jerry Buss misled him three years ago, saying the team would try immediately to rejoin the NBA's elite.
"That place is a mess," Bryant said, referring to the Lakers' front office. "If we're not making strides here to improve this team right now, to be aggressive in that nature, then what's the point of having me here?"
Phoenix Suns' Leandro Barbosa, left, of Brazil, is unable to stop Los Angeles Lakers' Kobe Bryant from making a jump shot in the first quarter of an NBA playoff basketball game in this April 22, 2007 file photo, at the U.S. Airways Center in Phoenix. Bryant asked to be traded from the Lakers on Wednesday, a day after calling the team's front office "a mess." "I would like to be traded, yeah," Bryant told ESPN radio. "Tough as it is to come to that conclusion there's no other alternative, you know?"
AP - May 30, 1:10 pm EDT
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The 74-year-old Buss was arrested Tuesday in Carlsbad for investigation of driving under the influence of alcohol. He was released later in the day.
Bryant earned $17.72 million last season and is owed $88.6 million over the next four years. He can terminate his contract following the 2008-09 season -- a move that would leave $47.8 million on the table.
By requesting a trade, Bryant would obviously waive his no-trade clause, but he has a trade clause in his contract that is believed to add about $13 million to his total contract value, a cost to be absorbed by any team that acquires him.
That money would be paid like a signing bonus and would not count toward the salary cap. The Lakers had to pay a similar fee to Lamar Odom when they acquired him from Miami three years ago, paying him about $8 million.
The Lakers won championships from 2000-02 and reached the NBA finals again in 2004, losing to the Detroit Pistons in five games. The team was broken up at that time. O'Neal was traded, Jackson left and other stalwarts -- Karl Malone, Gary Payton, Derek Fisher, Robert Horry and Rick Fox -- went elsewhere or retired.
The Lakers failed to make the playoffs the following season. With Jackson returning before the 2005-06 campaign, they finished seventh in the Western Conference in each of the past two years, but were eliminated by Phoenix in the first round of the playoffs.
The Lakers appeared to be a title contender through the first half of this season, going 26-13 despite several injuries to key players. But they lost 27 of their last 43 games to finish 42-40 before losing to the Suns in five games.
"Personally for me, it's beyond frustration -- three years and still being at ground zero," Bryant said a day after the playoffs ended. "This summer's a big summer. We have to see what direction we want to take as an organization and make those steps and make them now."
Bryant has made the All-Star team in each of the past nine seasons, clearly establishing himself as an NBA great before age 30. Only one active NBA player, Kevin Garnett, has a longer tenure with one team than Bryant. Garnett has played 12 seasons for Minnesota.
The Lakers won 20 playoff series from 2000-04 but have won four postseason games and no series in the past three years. Since O'Neal left, they've received little from the draft, trades or free agency.
Bryant has stated repeatedly in the past that he was a Lakers' fan since childhood, and wanted to be a Laker for life. But the O'Neal matter and his feeling of being misled by Buss appear have changed things.
"The fact of the matter is that many people don't know what really went down when I was approaching free agency because I have stayed quiet about it this whole time," Bryant wrote on his Web site. "The real facts are that Dr. Buss requested a meeting with me during the '04 season long before I opted out of my contract, and he told me he had already decided not to extend Shaq, as he was concerned about Shaq's age, fitness and contract demands.
"Dr. Buss made it clear that his decision was final, his mind was made up, and no matter what I decided to do with free agency, he was still going to move Shaq."
O'Neal said on the Philadelphia Inquirer's Web site he believed Bryant "100 percent."
Bryant said he was considering signing with the Clippers and Chicago Bulls three years ago before hearing from Buss.
"Dr. Buss promised me he would rebuild right away, and I believed him," Bryant wrote. "That is why I put my trust in the Lakers. But when stuff like this is coming from the 'inside,' all I can do is hope that someone from the 'inside' comes forward to support me and set straight the facts of what really happened. This is the TRUTH."
16 wins. 16 teams. 1 trophy. Tune in to the NBA Playoffs to see who is left standing as NBA champion
By JOHN NADEL, AP Sports Writer
May 30, 2007
Los Angeles Lakers' Kobe Bryant, left, and head coach Phil Jackson go in different directions after a timeout in the closing moments of the fourth quarter of an NBA playoff basketball game in this April 22, 2007 file photo at the U.S. Airways Center in Phoenix. Bryant asked to be traded from the Lakers on Wednesday, a day after calling the team's front office "a mess." "I would like to be traded, yeah," Bryant told ESPN radio. "Tough as it is to come to that conclusion there's no other alternative, you know?"
AP - May 30, 1:10 pm EDT
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LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Kobe Bryant asked to be traded from the Lakers on Wednesday, a day after calling the team's front office "a mess." He said there was nothing the Lakers could do to change his mind.
"I would like to be traded, yeah," Bryant told ESPN radio. "Tough as it is to come to that conclusion there's no other alternative. It's rough man, but I don't see how you can rebuild that trust. I just don't know how you can move forward in that type of situation."
Bryant, who helped the Lakers win three consecutive NBA championships, has four years left on the seven-year, $136.4 million contract he signed July 15, 2004. That was a day after Shaquille O'Neal was traded to the Miami Heat.
Bryant became infuriated Tuesday when a Los Angeles Times columnist quoted what he called a Lakers insider as saying it was Bryant's insistence on getting away from O'Neal that prompted the trade to Miami.
Bryant, the NBA's leading scorer the past two seasons, said he spoke with Phil Jackson on Tuesday, and the coach told him he was being let go because the Lakers were committed to reducing payroll and rebuilding long term.
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"They said nothing to me about a long-term plan -- absolutely nothing," Bryant told KLAC radio, the Lakers' flagship station. "They told Phil one thing and they told me another. Actions speak louder than words."
"It's a trust thing," he added. "They're in a long-term plan that I had no idea about."
The Lakers and Bryant's agent, Rob Pelinka, did not immediately respond to messages left by The Associated Press.
Bryant, an 11-year veteran who turns 29 in August, urged the team at season's end to do what it takes to get back into contention. He essentially repeated those comments last weekend in an interview with the Los Angeles Times.
On Sunday, he suggested former Lakers general manager Jerry West should return. West left the team in the summer of 2000 and was succeeded by current GM Mitch Kupchak.
West, an employee of the Lakers for about 40 years as a player, coach and executive, is under contract as the Memphis Grizzlies' president until July 1. He turned 69 this week and has remained a close friend of Kupchak's. West has said he has "no plans to seek employment with any other organization."
It was West who brought Bryant to the Lakers, trading center Vlade Divac to Charlotte in the summer of 1996 for the rights to Bryant -- the 13th pick in the NBA draft. Bryant was only 17 at the time.
On Tuesday, Bryant did a series of radio interviews bashing the Lakers. He contended owner Jerry Buss misled him three years ago, saying the team would try immediately to rejoin the NBA's elite.
"That place is a mess," Bryant said, referring to the Lakers' front office. "If we're not making strides here to improve this team right now, to be aggressive in that nature, then what's the point of having me here?"
Phoenix Suns' Leandro Barbosa, left, of Brazil, is unable to stop Los Angeles Lakers' Kobe Bryant from making a jump shot in the first quarter of an NBA playoff basketball game in this April 22, 2007 file photo, at the U.S. Airways Center in Phoenix. Bryant asked to be traded from the Lakers on Wednesday, a day after calling the team's front office "a mess." "I would like to be traded, yeah," Bryant told ESPN radio. "Tough as it is to come to that conclusion there's no other alternative, you know?"
AP - May 30, 1:10 pm EDT
More Photos
The 74-year-old Buss was arrested Tuesday in Carlsbad for investigation of driving under the influence of alcohol. He was released later in the day.
Bryant earned $17.72 million last season and is owed $88.6 million over the next four years. He can terminate his contract following the 2008-09 season -- a move that would leave $47.8 million on the table.
By requesting a trade, Bryant would obviously waive his no-trade clause, but he has a trade clause in his contract that is believed to add about $13 million to his total contract value, a cost to be absorbed by any team that acquires him.
That money would be paid like a signing bonus and would not count toward the salary cap. The Lakers had to pay a similar fee to Lamar Odom when they acquired him from Miami three years ago, paying him about $8 million.
The Lakers won championships from 2000-02 and reached the NBA finals again in 2004, losing to the Detroit Pistons in five games. The team was broken up at that time. O'Neal was traded, Jackson left and other stalwarts -- Karl Malone, Gary Payton, Derek Fisher, Robert Horry and Rick Fox -- went elsewhere or retired.
The Lakers failed to make the playoffs the following season. With Jackson returning before the 2005-06 campaign, they finished seventh in the Western Conference in each of the past two years, but were eliminated by Phoenix in the first round of the playoffs.
The Lakers appeared to be a title contender through the first half of this season, going 26-13 despite several injuries to key players. But they lost 27 of their last 43 games to finish 42-40 before losing to the Suns in five games.
"Personally for me, it's beyond frustration -- three years and still being at ground zero," Bryant said a day after the playoffs ended. "This summer's a big summer. We have to see what direction we want to take as an organization and make those steps and make them now."
Bryant has made the All-Star team in each of the past nine seasons, clearly establishing himself as an NBA great before age 30. Only one active NBA player, Kevin Garnett, has a longer tenure with one team than Bryant. Garnett has played 12 seasons for Minnesota.
The Lakers won 20 playoff series from 2000-04 but have won four postseason games and no series in the past three years. Since O'Neal left, they've received little from the draft, trades or free agency.
Bryant has stated repeatedly in the past that he was a Lakers' fan since childhood, and wanted to be a Laker for life. But the O'Neal matter and his feeling of being misled by Buss appear have changed things.
"The fact of the matter is that many people don't know what really went down when I was approaching free agency because I have stayed quiet about it this whole time," Bryant wrote on his Web site. "The real facts are that Dr. Buss requested a meeting with me during the '04 season long before I opted out of my contract, and he told me he had already decided not to extend Shaq, as he was concerned about Shaq's age, fitness and contract demands.
"Dr. Buss made it clear that his decision was final, his mind was made up, and no matter what I decided to do with free agency, he was still going to move Shaq."
O'Neal said on the Philadelphia Inquirer's Web site he believed Bryant "100 percent."
Bryant said he was considering signing with the Clippers and Chicago Bulls three years ago before hearing from Buss.
"Dr. Buss promised me he would rebuild right away, and I believed him," Bryant wrote. "That is why I put my trust in the Lakers. But when stuff like this is coming from the 'inside,' all I can do is hope that someone from the 'inside' comes forward to support me and set straight the facts of what really happened. This is the TRUTH."
16 wins. 16 teams. 1 trophy. Tune in to the NBA Playoffs to see who is left standing as NBA champion
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Neelix
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#395
nisi aktuelan
Or, maybe not
Well, that was certainly a quick trip to Pluto.
In the ever-evolving Kobe Bryant fiasco, it now seems that Kobe is open to staying with the Lakers. During an interview with 570-AM, Kobe said his agent, Rob Pelinka, called Mitch Kupchak this morning to inform him of Kobe's trade demand. Yet, a phone call from Phil Jackson apparently changed Kobe's mind. Phil told Kobe that the Lakers are not committed to building a winning roster and are going to scrap their long-term plan.
So here's the latest from Kobe:
``I can only hope that they do something, because I don't want to go no place else. I don't want to. I want to stay here. I hope they do something.''
``Phil said, `we want our players to feel confortable and feel that they can trust the people they're around.' He said, `Let us try to work that out. Let us try to figure things out.' That made me feel a lot better. Phil is a guy I leaned on all season for clarity and hope. Right now, it's no different.''
``(Phil) said, `They are now determined to do something.' They're determined to get something done and they're off this long-term plan thing. They want to go ahead and get something done. For me, the frustration would have been alleviated if they had told me about a long-term plan.''
Asked directly if he wanted to stay with the Lakers, ``Man, more than anything. That's why I hope they can do something. Figure something out. When Phil and I talked, it was an emotional conversation and he said, `You know what, Kobe, just let us try to figure this thing out.' That gave me some hope because I don't want to go no place else. I want to stay here. This is my team. I love it here.''
Posted by Rich Hammond on May 30,
Or, maybe not
Well, that was certainly a quick trip to Pluto.
In the ever-evolving Kobe Bryant fiasco, it now seems that Kobe is open to staying with the Lakers. During an interview with 570-AM, Kobe said his agent, Rob Pelinka, called Mitch Kupchak this morning to inform him of Kobe's trade demand. Yet, a phone call from Phil Jackson apparently changed Kobe's mind. Phil told Kobe that the Lakers are not committed to building a winning roster and are going to scrap their long-term plan.
So here's the latest from Kobe:
``I can only hope that they do something, because I don't want to go no place else. I don't want to. I want to stay here. I hope they do something.''
``Phil said, `we want our players to feel confortable and feel that they can trust the people they're around.' He said, `Let us try to work that out. Let us try to figure things out.' That made me feel a lot better. Phil is a guy I leaned on all season for clarity and hope. Right now, it's no different.''
``(Phil) said, `They are now determined to do something.' They're determined to get something done and they're off this long-term plan thing. They want to go ahead and get something done. For me, the frustration would have been alleviated if they had told me about a long-term plan.''
Asked directly if he wanted to stay with the Lakers, ``Man, more than anything. That's why I hope they can do something. Figure something out. When Phil and I talked, it was an emotional conversation and he said, `You know what, Kobe, just let us try to figure this thing out.' That gave me some hope because I don't want to go no place else. I want to stay here. This is my team. I love it here.''
Posted by Rich Hammond on May 30,
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jasko_ba
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#397
vidi ovo: "James je bio doista nevjerojatan: od 30 posljednjih koševa koje su ubacili Cavsi, njegovih je 29. Zakucavanjem je izjednačio rezultat na 91:91 i odveo utakmicu u produžetke, gdje je postigao sve koševe (25) svoje momčadi!"
koja legenda....
takodjer, nadam se da ce ovo obn-cici uspjeti prenositi sutra
koja legenda....
takodjer, nadam se da ce ovo obn-cici uspjeti prenositi sutra
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SilentWhisper
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#398
jel ko ceka utakmicu... prognoze za jamesa?!?!?!
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SilentWhisper
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#400
oprez i prosle godine bilo je ovako 2:0 det, 2:3 cle pa 4:3 det. ali, nakon onog sto je james uradio cini mi se kao da vec sad imaju 10 poena prednosti prije prvog podbacivanja....skinuo sam sa youtuba one zadnje akcije jamesa, ono ce uci u antologiju.... kompletan igrac, statistika uvijek na granici triple-doublea, a ne ko onaj hinjo kobe (sada znam da mogu sve) bryant....
P.S. neka se ostavi jordana na miru, nikakve usporedbe, he's The One....
Moja prognoza za Jamesa oko 30, nece biti produzetaka
Inace nikad ne navijam za igrace, pa mi je cas omiljeni klub ovaj, pa onda neki drugi jer se je On preselio, itd....(moji su Knicksi i kad su ocajni), ali ovaj put cisto radi nekakve nove krvi, i detoit i san antonio su vec dugo tu u vrhu, neka neko drugi dodje i pokupi prstenje.....
P.S. neka se ostavi jordana na miru, nikakve usporedbe, he's The One....
Moja prognoza za Jamesa oko 30, nece biti produzetaka
Inace nikad ne navijam za igrace, pa mi je cas omiljeni klub ovaj, pa onda neki drugi jer se je On preselio, itd....(moji su Knicksi
i kad su ocajni), ali ovaj put cisto radi nekakve nove krvi, i detoit i san antonio su vec dugo tu u vrhu, neka neko drugi dodje i pokupi prstenje.....