Muzičari koji nisu "postali" dio industrije

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#176 Re: Muzičari koji nisu "postali" dio industrije

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zomri wrote:
Bloo wrote:dugo vam je trebalo da nadođete :D

ljudi koji su "izvan" industrije, ponekad osnuju sami producentsku kuću ili izdaju album nezavisno tipa Ingrid Michaelson
Ili recimo Dubioza Kolektiv :mrgreen:
Trenutno ispunjavam putne naloge i slušam Doris Dragović :mrgreen:
better choice od Dubioze
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#177 Re: Muzičari koji nisu "postali" dio industrije

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Bloo wrote:
zomri wrote:
Bloo wrote:dugo vam je trebalo da nadođete :D

ljudi koji su "izvan" industrije, ponekad osnuju sami producentsku kuću ili izdaju album nezavisno tipa Ingrid Michaelson
Ili recimo Dubioza Kolektiv :mrgreen:
Trenutno ispunjavam putne naloge i slušam Doris Dragović :mrgreen:
better choice od Dubioze
:mrgreen: :mrgreen:

dubioza bi te dekoncentrisala. vrijeme povratka: "vratiće se valter..." :oops:
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#178 Re: Muzičari koji nisu "postali" dio industrije

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Hajvan wrote:
PSC wrote:
teški ti kriteriji. admire :lol: šalamala
nisam neki znalac, onako se priključih.
ali ako je evolucija zvuka i stila u pitanju, možda onda porcupine tree? a i nisu nešto mainstream
ne moze.
izvodjaca kojeg ste naveli naveli je kopijine kopija, kopija

:lol:
:lol:
jel kopija pink floyda? :) trigger za porcupine tree je bio kad se spomenuo opeth i anathema.
Altsa wrote: ha. napokon nadođosmo.
pa jasno je od početka da nije baš najjasnije...ali to nije razlog da se priča ne proširi, nije stvar u isključivom kategorisanju nego u nadolaženju :) bar kad je muzika u pitanju. lijepo je pročitati neke rasprave.
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#179 Re: Muzičari koji nisu "postali" dio industrije

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Naravno.
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#180 Re: Muzičari koji nisu "postali" dio industrije

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Svi su dio.
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#181 Re: Muzičari koji nisu "postali" dio industrije

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O čovječe vratih se stranicu kada ono ja i @zomri raspravljamo o Talk Talk-u. Mark je tada još bio među živima.
A neki dan se navršila godišnjica kako ga nema. :sad:
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#182 Re: Muzičari koji nisu "postali" dio industrije

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Nista. Ajmo dalje.
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#183 Re: Muzičari koji nisu "postali" dio industrije

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Sve pod major record label potpisano (big six) je dio industrije.
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#184 Re: Muzičari koji nisu "postali" dio industrije

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Neil Youngove Geffen godine :lol:
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On Dec. 1, 1983, Neil Young was served with papers from his then label, Geffen Records. The suit charged Young with recording “unrepresentative” and "uncharacteristic" albums, essentially arguing that Neil Young no longer sounded like Neil Young.

In early 1982, Young was looking for a change. He’d released 13 albums with Reprise Records, earning fame and critical acclaim along the way. Not every release was a hit, as 1980’s Hawks & Doves and 1981’s Re-ac-tor had fallen flat. The latter was his final commitment under the contract he had signed with Reprise. Thus, the singer-songwriter found himself searching for a new home.

Enter Geffen Records, the upstart label created by music industry veteran David Geffen. Though the label had only been around for a couple of years, they’d already found success with Donna Summer’s gold-certified The Wanderer and John Lennon and Yoko Ono’s set Double Fantasy. Geffen saw Young as another big fish to add to its catalog. Young saw Geffen as new outlet for his creative and artistic ideas. Neither got what they had hoped for.

Young’s first release under the Geffen flag was Trans. Layered with synthesizers and vocoders, the album represented a foray into electronic music. Listeners were shocked by the stylistic change. In their 1983 review, Rolling Stone said hearing a computerized Neil Young was “like seeing a satellite dish sitting outside a log cabin." It wasn’t until later that the inspiration for Young’s robot-like vocal parts would be revealed. “My son is severely handicapped, and at that time was simply trying to find a way to talk, to communicate with other people,” the singer admitted in a 1995 interview with Mojo. “That's what Trans is all about. And that's why, on that record, you know I'm saying something but you can't understand what it is. Well, that's the exact same feeling I was getting from my son.”

Though not a commercial success, Trans still made it to No. 19 on the Billboard 200 chart, surpassing Young's two previous releases. Still, Geffen was disappointed with the album and expressed their opinions to the singer. In return, he offered them a country album that he'd recorded the previous fall titled Old Ways. The label rejected it and demanded a rock n' roll album.

"They thought I was all over the map and didn't understand why I was out there playing country, although to me it sounded like B.B. King more than country," he said years later during an interview with the Los Angeles Times. “All my music comes from all music -- I'm not country, I'm not rock 'n' roll, I'm just me, and all these things are what I like."

In an attempt to appease Geffen, Young recorded and released the rockabilly-style album Everybody’s Rockin’. "They told me they wanted me to play rock 'n' roll, and told me I didn't sound like Neil Young," the singer recalled. "So I gave them Everybody's Rockin' and said, 'This is a rock 'n' roll album by Neil Young after someone tells him what to do; this is exactly what you said you wanted.' And we got way into it.”

Reviews for Everybody's Rockin' were harsh, with the Village Voice proclaiming "The covers are redundant or worse, as are all but two of the originals." Geffen was once again disappointed. Young claims he expected their negative response. "When I made albums like Everybody's Rockin' and everyone takes the shit out of 'em... I knew they could do that. What am I? Stupid? Did people really think I put that out thinking it was the greatest fuckin' thing I'd ever recorded? Obviously I'm aware it's not. Plus it was a way of further destroying what I'd already set up."

Exacerbated with what they viewed was Young's refusal to make commercially viable music, Geffen took the unprecedented step of suing the artist. In response, Young countersued, claiming his contract gave him complete artistic freedom. After a messy war of words, the suit eventually settled, with Geffen apologizing to Young. The label would go on to release Old Ways, along with two more Young albums: Landing on Water (1986) and Life (1987). Following the completion of his commitment to Geffen, Young returned to Reprise Records. He continues releasing albums on the label to this day.

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#185 Re: Muzičari koji nisu "postali" dio industrije

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Yep, Neil Young je isto tako "notoran" po činjenici da radi ono što želi. :D Mislim, po uskoj definiciji većina je dio industrije po samoj
činjenici da izdaju za neku diskografsku kuću. Ali uvijek je bilo muzičara koji snimaju i stvaraju po sopstvenim pravilima prateći inspiraciju
gdje god ih ona odvela. Nekada zbog toga dođu i u konflikte sa diskografskim kućama, ali ne popuštaju.
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#186 Re: Muzičari koji nisu "postali" dio industrije

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biti "dijelom industrije” je nekad i dobro.

fina pjesmica iz ska dana, male “nezavisne” produkcije:





fenomenalna reinkarnacija, producirana od strane majstora “velike” industrije

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#187 Re: Muzičari koji nisu "postali" dio industrije

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Da se razumijemo, daleko od toga da su muzičari isključivo vizionari, a ljudi iz diskografskih kuća babaroge. Postoje ljudi, posebno oni
u tzv A&R odnosnto talent skaut departmentima bez kojih gomila genijalne muzike nikada ne bi vidjela svjetlo dana. Ti ljudi su
potpisivali izvođače, usmjeravali ih i borili se za njih u matičnim diskografskim kućama za kreativnu slobodu.
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#188 Re: Muzičari koji nisu "postali" dio industrije

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bilo je ovdje fine rasprave pogotovo oko Dubioze, nešto takvo samo na jala temi ima još <3
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