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Maraschino wrote:Opet Renolovi na ovoj temi :oops: mici to, pokvari dizajn teme. :evil:
zasto , meni su ovi neki mercedes meh , da ne kazem sta :-)

da popravim malo :D

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amar1994 wrote:Ja cu sacekat , da kupim , kad bude kod kramara tek razradjen sa 150 hiljada . Tako cu se moci hvalit u raji i na forumu da vozim nishan dci :)
Sacekaj pa kupi Megana isto ti dodje :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Bullet Tooth Tony wrote:
amar1994 wrote:Ja cu sacekat , da kupim , kad bude kod kramara tek razradjen sa 150 hiljada . Tako cu se moci hvalit u raji i na forumu da vozim nishan dci :)
Sacekaj pa kupi Megana isto ti dodje :lol: :lol: :lol:
nista to , to se ne cijeni u raji i nema 50 ekrana unutra :(
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@amare, baklavu ne hajem ni za bajram. :D
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amar1994 wrote:
Bullet Tooth Tony wrote:
amar1994 wrote:Ja cu sacekat , da kupim , kad bude kod kramara tek razradjen sa 150 hiljada . Tako cu se moci hvalit u raji i na forumu da vozim nishan dci :)
Sacekaj pa kupi Megana isto ti dodje :lol: :lol: :lol:
nista to , to se ne cijeni u raji i nema 50 ekrana unutra :(
tako je ... vidis kako vi, strasni petrolheadi , sve znate :thumbup:
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mali_milojica wrote:Niko da spomene da Mercedes vec godinama,nudi 5 godina besplatnog odrzavanja koje pokriva rezervne dijelove,rad servisera,mislim cak i gume ;-)
Kolko para?

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mali_milojica wrote:Niko da spomene da Mercedes vec godinama,nudi 5 godina besplatnog odrzavanja koje pokriva rezervne dijelove,rad servisera,mislim cak i gume ;-)
Ja od BMW-a dobio do 200.000 km, doplata na cijenu auta 350€.
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kidney wrote:Cijene za novu A-klasu u Italiji:
https://media.mercedes-benz.it/download ... lassea.pdf

DIESEL
A 180 d Automatic 1461 cm³ 85/116 29.900,00

BENZINA
A 200 1332 cm³ 120/163 30.029,00
A 200 Automatic 1332 cm³ 120/163 32.171,00
A 250 Automatic 1991 cm³ 165/224 38.690,00
Puno.

Za očekivati je da će cijena izvedbe A 250 još porasti, kada se do kraja godine uvede novi 9G-DCT.

I nema metalik boje, osim crne, bijele, srebrne i sive.

Da, i nema doplate za veći rezervoar za gorivo od standardnog, zapremine 43 lit.
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#484 Re: Mercedes-Benz ALL ABOUT

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Seawolf wrote: Puno.

Za očekivati je da će cijena izvedbe A 250 još porasti, kada se do kraja godine uvede novi 9G-DCT.

I nema metalik boje, osim crne, bijele, srebrne i sive.

Da, i nema doplate za veći rezervoar za gorivo od standardnog, zapremine 43 lit.
Italija je i inače skupa ali opasnu si blizu cijene C-klase. Doduše C-klasa je i dalje sa generaciju starijim motorima ali imaju 9G HD automat.
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Seawolf wrote:
kidney wrote:Cijene za novu A-klasu u Italiji:
https://media.mercedes-benz.it/download ... lassea.pdf

DIESEL
A 180 d Automatic 1461 cm³ 85/116 29.900,00

BENZINA
A 200 1332 cm³ 120/163 30.029,00
A 200 Automatic 1332 cm³ 120/163 32.171,00
A 250 Automatic 1991 cm³ 165/224 38.690,00
Puno.

Za očekivati je da će cijena izvedbe A 250 još porasti, kada se do kraja godine uvede novi 9G-DCT.

I nema metalik boje, osim crne, bijele, srebrne i sive.

Da, i nema doplate za veći rezervoar za gorivo od standardnog, zapremine 43 lit.
Pa ovo je katastrofa skupo kad se uzme u obzir da su motori isti u renolu i dačiji
Ma budala je koga uspiju navući na ovo
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#486 Re: Mercedes-Benz ALL ABOUT

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kidney wrote:
Seawolf wrote: Puno.

Za očekivati je da će cijena izvedbe A 250 još porasti, kada se do kraja godine uvede novi 9G-DCT.

I nema metalik boje, osim crne, bijele, srebrne i sive.

Da, i nema doplate za veći rezervoar za gorivo od standardnog, zapremine 43 lit.
Italija je i inače skupa ali opasnu si blizu cijene C-klase. Doduše C-klasa je i dalje sa generaciju starijim motorima ali imaju 9G HD automat.
Nije do Italije. U svim državama EU je cijena za novi A 250 7G-DCT, od 30.640 EUR do 30.960 EUR, bez ikakvih davanja.

I da, cijena je toliko blizu C-klasi da je pitanje kako će se nova B-klasa (W 247), uklopiti u cjenovnik kada se pojavi.

Doduše, facelift C-klase (W/S 205) će donijeti i nove, nešto povećane cijene, pa će se napraviti prostora i za cijene nove B-klase.
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Koji je smisao B klase? Pa to valjda još samo konzerve kupuju. :lol:

Šalu na stranu. MPV tržište umire, a nadiru CUV i SUV modeli. Tu mislim da će im vrlo vjerojatno GLB biti najuspješniji model.

Ne znam kako Mercedes radi flotnu prodaju. Ali znam kako ide za BMW u Italiji. Radnik na određenom položaju bira 320d Touring, 218d Active Tourer, ili X1 18d. što misliš za kojeg se najviše odlučuju, a za kojeg najmanje?
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Svaka njima čast ali radije kupim original, a ne kopiju. :D
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Ovo nije po mom ukusu. Subjektivno, ruzan auto.
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Kokpit je svemirski!
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Jednom mercedes, uvijek mercedes.
Što se mene tiče, ne postoji bolje auto.
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kidney wrote:Koji je smisao B klase? Pa to valjda još samo konzerve kupuju. :lol:

Šalu na stranu. MPV tržište umire, a nadiru CUV i SUV modeli. Tu mislim da će im vrlo vjerojatno GLB biti najuspješniji model.

Ne znam kako Mercedes radi flotnu prodaju. Ali znam kako ide za BMW u Italiji. Radnik na određenom položaju bira 320d Touring, 218d Active Tourer, ili X1 18d. što misliš za kojeg se najviše odlučuju, a za kojeg najmanje?
Zavisi od njegovih potreba i potreba porodice.
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lavic wrote:
kidney wrote:Koji je smisao B klase? Pa to valjda još samo konzerve kupuju. :lol:

Šalu na stranu. MPV tržište umire, a nadiru CUV i SUV modeli. Tu mislim da će im vrlo vjerojatno GLB biti najuspješniji model.

Ne znam kako Mercedes radi flotnu prodaju. Ali znam kako ide za BMW u Italiji. Radnik na određenom položaju bira 320d Touring, 218d Active Tourer, ili X1 18d. što misliš za kojeg se najviše odlučuju, a za kojeg najmanje?
Zavisi od njegovih potreba i potreba porodice.

Ja sam samo pitao koji je najčešći izbor. A sva tri podjednako dobro odrađuje zahtjeve obiteljskog automobila.
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kidney wrote:
lavic wrote:
kidney wrote:Koji je smisao B klase? Pa to valjda još samo konzerve kupuju. :lol:

Šalu na stranu. MPV tržište umire, a nadiru CUV i SUV modeli. Tu mislim da će im vrlo vjerojatno GLB biti najuspješniji model.

Ne znam kako Mercedes radi flotnu prodaju. Ali znam kako ide za BMW u Italiji. Radnik na određenom položaju bira 320d Touring, 218d Active Tourer, ili X1 18d. što misliš za kojeg se najviše odlučuju, a za kojeg najmanje?
Zavisi od njegovih potreba i potreba porodice.

Ja sam samo pitao koji je najčešći izbor. A sva tri podjednako dobro odrađuje zahtjeve obiteljskog automobila.
U Italiji bi, sigurno, najviše njih uzelo X1 18d.

U Njemačkoj, vjerovatnije, 218d Active Tourer.
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Seawolf wrote:Ja sam samo pitao koji je najčešći izbor. A sva tri podjednako dobro odrađuje zahtjeve obiteljskog automobila.
U Italiji bi, sigurno, najviše njih uzelo X1 18d.

U Njemačkoj, vjerovatnije, 218d Active Tourer.[/quote]

Mislim da bi u Njemačko ipak 320d Touring pobjedio.

No da, u Italiji X1 je taj koji je trenutno najpoželjniji. Mogli bi razglabati zašto.

No ovo je zanimljivo u vidu Mercedesa. Budući GLB je taj koji potencijalnom kupcu dolazi kao zamjena C klasu karavan. Ta zamjena nije ni GLA ni GLC. Jedan je previše kao hatchback, a drugi preskup.
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http://media.daimler.com/marsMediaSite/ ... 4PTU!&rs=0

Electrification continues: C 200 with EQ Boost

A new generation of four-cylinder petrol engines is being launched in the new C-Class. At the same time these models are equipped with an additional 48 volt onboard network with a belt-driven starter/alternator (EQ Boost). The new petrol model will be launched as the C 200 and C 200 4MATIC with a displacement of 1.5 litres, with a 2.0-litre variant to follow later.

The combination of a 48 volt onboard network and EQ Boost creates the conditions for additional functions that help to reduce fuel consumption even further, while improving agility and comfort characteristics. When accelerating, EQ Boost can assist the 135 kW (184 hp) engine with an additional 10 kW (14 hp), bridging the brief moment until the turbocharger has built up its full charge pressure. This boosting is also used to reach the engine's ideal rpm as quickly as possible during gearshifts. The shift time of the automatic transmission is shortened as a result. During deceleration, the starter/alternator recuperates kinetic energy and charges the battery. The water pump is electrically driven and actuated by a characteristic map. This optimally adapts the cooling output to the current need.



http://media.daimler.com/marsMediaSite/ ... 4PTU!&rs=1

Future outlook: Plug-in diesel hybrid in the C-Class

For the first time, Mercedes-Benz is uniting an externally chargeable hybrid system with a diesel engine. At the same time, the combination of the new four-cylinder OM 654 diesel engine and the latest-generation 9G-TRONIC 9-speed hybrid transmission is a special technological highlight. 90 kW of electrical output, an additional electrical torque of 440 Nm and an intended electric range of around 50 km (NEDC) will enhance the experience of locally emission-free mobility.

The planned plug-in diesel hybrid is based on the third generation of the plug‑in hybrids that had their debut at the 2017 IAA in the S-Class S 560 e (combined fuel consumption 2.1 l/100 km, combined CO2 emissions 49 g/km, combined electrical consumption 15.5 kWh/100 km[2]). This has a new lithium-ion battery with a capacity of 13.5 kWh. The new onboard charger increases the charging capacity from 3.6 kW to 7.2 kW, which means that the battery is fully recharged at a wallbox after approx. two hours. This should be possible within seven hours even at a domestic power socket.

The third-generation hybrid technology will support the driver with further improved, intelligent drive management. Through the extended use of data from the navigation system and information from the camera and the radar sensor, the third hybrid generation looks ahead and adapts itself to the speed and route profile. Events such as negotiating towns on the way to the destination are taken into account when planning the available electrical energy, and during recuperation and thermal conditioning of the drive components.

Apart from a serene driving experience, the hybrid technology will ensure extra comfort. This is because in addition to the drive compoinents, the high-voltage onboard electrical system also supplies the electric refrigerant compressor and the high-voltage heater booster. Both will allow pre-entry climate control of the interior not only in summer but also in winter.
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kidney wrote:http://media.daimler.com/marsMediaSite/ ... 4PTU!&rs=0

Electrification continues: C 200 with EQ Boost

A new generation of four-cylinder petrol engines is being launched in the new C-Class. At the same time these models are equipped with an additional 48 volt onboard network with a belt-driven starter/alternator (EQ Boost). The new petrol model will be launched as the C 200 and C 200 4MATIC with a displacement of 1.5 litres, with a 2.0-litre variant to follow later.

The combination of a 48 volt onboard network and EQ Boost creates the conditions for additional functions that help to reduce fuel consumption even further, while improving agility and comfort characteristics. When accelerating, EQ Boost can assist the 135 kW (184 hp) engine with an additional 10 kW (14 hp), bridging the brief moment until the turbocharger has built up its full charge pressure. This boosting is also used to reach the engine's ideal rpm as quickly as possible during gearshifts. The shift time of the automatic transmission is shortened as a result. During deceleration, the starter/alternator recuperates kinetic energy and charges the battery. The water pump is electrically driven and actuated by a characteristic map. This optimally adapts the cooling output to the current need.



http://media.daimler.com/marsMediaSite/ ... 4PTU!&rs=1

Future outlook: Plug-in diesel hybrid in the C-Class

For the first time, Mercedes-Benz is uniting an externally chargeable hybrid system with a diesel engine. At the same time, the combination of the new four-cylinder OM 654 diesel engine and the latest-generation 9G-TRONIC 9-speed hybrid transmission is a special technological highlight. 90 kW of electrical output, an additional electrical torque of 440 Nm and an intended electric range of around 50 km (NEDC) will enhance the experience of locally emission-free mobility.

The planned plug-in diesel hybrid is based on the third generation of the plug‑in hybrids that had their debut at the 2017 IAA in the S-Class S 560 e (combined fuel consumption 2.1 l/100 km, combined CO2 emissions 49 g/km, combined electrical consumption 15.5 kWh/100 km[2]). This has a new lithium-ion battery with a capacity of 13.5 kWh. The new onboard charger increases the charging capacity from 3.6 kW to 7.2 kW, which means that the battery is fully recharged at a wallbox after approx. two hours. This should be possible within seven hours even at a domestic power socket.

The third-generation hybrid technology will support the driver with further improved, intelligent drive management. Through the extended use of data from the navigation system and information from the camera and the radar sensor, the third hybrid generation looks ahead and adapts itself to the speed and route profile. Events such as negotiating towns on the way to the destination are taken into account when planning the available electrical energy, and during recuperation and thermal conditioning of the drive components.

Apart from a serene driving experience, the hybrid technology will ensure extra comfort. This is because in addition to the drive compoinents, the high-voltage onboard electrical system also supplies the electric refrigerant compressor and the high-voltage heater booster. Both will allow pre-entry climate control of the interior not only in summer but also in winter.
Moraš priznati, iznenađenje.

Četvorocilindraš radne zapremine 1.497 ccm, kada mu se niko nadao nije.
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#499 Re: Mercedes-Benz ALL ABOUT

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Seawolf wrote:Četvorocilindraš radne zapremine 1.497 ccm, kada mu se niko nadao nije.
Svakako je iznenađenje. Nadam se samo da nisu skratili hod nego da su dirali i provrt.

Samo meni je suradnja sa Renaultom tu čudna. Kao da se drži figa u džepu.
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Nisu valjda ovaj 1.5 dobili rezanjem 1cil,ne daj Boze.
Edit: vidjeh da je 4cil. Uh,dobro je
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