Masline
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#1 Masline
Eh, zna li ko dokle uzvodno uz Neretvu mogu rasti masilne?
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#2 Re: Masline
Do Konjica?veca_sa wrote:dokle bi ti da rastu?cyprus wrote:Eh, zna li ko dokle uzvodno uz Neretvu mogu rasti masilne?
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#3
mogu ba jakako,samo moras da Hi zasadis u lijehe po tri para u redu .
Ne znam,al bi mogo otic na sumarstvo pitat hocu i ja na Stupu da napravim plantazu limuna.
Ne znam,al bi mogo otic na sumarstvo pitat hocu i ja na Stupu da napravim plantazu limuna.
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#4
Jarane konoplja nije tropska biljka,nju su ljudi uzgajali regularno na nasim prostorima prije 50-100 godina,davala je ulje,vlakna za konopce i tako..kasnije je skontano da moze i da se pusi pa su ukinuli one kako se to kaze akcize,ili sta vec..ono sto te drzava gura da nesto uzgajas,premije mislim da je...veca_sa wrote:ma hoce i u sarajevu te tropske biljkice, moja plantaza maka i konoplje raste bez problema na njivi, a cak su iz indije...goldenlily wrote:mogu ba jakako,samo moras da Hi zasadis u lijehe po tri para u redu .
Ne znam,al bi mogo otic na sumarstvo pitat hocu i ja na Stupu da napravim plantazu limuna.
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#5
veca_sa wrote:ma jarane, kad se konzumira , odma letis na plazu, more trebe , lepeze, zato tropska, a kad se ukaze crnac sa belegijom znaci da moras opet konzumirat
opasne su belegije jos ako pise ono WENDY
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#8
Evo da ja kao bosanski dalmatinac pokusam. Ne znam da li ti je poznato da se jedan dio Stoca zvao Masline (valjda se jos i zove), tu su naime bile masline koji je Ali-pasa Rizvanbegovic (da, onaj koji se okrenuo protiv Husein-kapetana) posadio. Bile su sve to ovog rata, dok ih neka vojska vjerovatno HVO, nije popalio. Znaci, ako su postojale u Stocu, onda sigurno mogu jos i dalje. E sada, kada sam prosle godine svratio da vidim manastir Zitomislic, u istoimenom selu i u jednom od vrtova sam vidio masline. Znaci ako mogu pored Neretve (inace dolina Neretve je idealna za njih, ukljucujuci okolna brda), mogu sigurno i u Mostaru. Takodjer, jedan moj prijatelj sa Zalika ima u svome vrtu maslinu, i dobro uspjeva (samo sto sporo raste). Moja procjena da mogu ne uspjevati negdje do brane Grancarevo, sumljam da mogu u Konjicu posto se tu mijesaju kontinentalna i mediteranska klima, i da ih one onih par niskih konjickih temperatura pokosilo. U sustini mozes ih svuda oko Mostara posaditi, samo je mali problem sto se o maloj maslini treba dobro brinuti nekoliko godine.cyprus wrote:Ama nisam ba, nego možel mi iko dat pouzdan odgovor?
Redovno gnjojiti, eventualno neke grane sijeci, i naravno zaljevati.
Razlog sto ih nema vise u Hercegovini, je jednostavan, nedostatak te argokulture i znanja, inace po svim prirodnim faktorima mogu itekako rasti.
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#9
ne mogu masline nigdje gdje ima mraza, jer je maslina jako osjetljiva na hladnocu. Od sadjenja do prvog prinosa cesto traje i do 7 godina
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#10
http://www.clearstreamolives.com/
Mogu masline i gdje ima mraza....ALI...sve ovisi koliko...itd. U Mesiniji i okolici Kalamate padne i snijeg...bude i mraza...ali i dalje se bave maslinarstvom. Isto je i sa narancama na Floridi.
Za mrazno podrucje...preporucuju se ove sorte: Leccino, Frantoio, Pendolino i Maurino.
Mnoga maslinarska podrucja...napr. Mesiniija, Kalamata...budu i snijezna i mrazna...ali ljudi znadu.....nakon stoljeca iskustva....kako i sta... prije i nakon snijega i mraza. To se znanje prenosi sa koljena na koljeno.
Preventing Frost Damage to Olive Trees
California Frost Prevention
Steve Sibbett
U.C. Farm Advisor
Here is some information I gleaned from Dr. Steve Lindow, University of California Plant Pathologist, Berkeley Calif. who has done considerable work with frost protection materials over the years as they effect ice nucleating bacteria. Of course, this information, by design, relates to California crops but should have some utility (indeed a starting point) for understanding the potential for olives.
Here are his comments: "The most effective frost control material for most crops is simply copper compounds - they are registered on most crops and, if applied as a preventative as far in advance of the frost as possible will generally provide significant frost control. This is what we recommend for use of citrus for example, where the coppers are generally applied about the end of October to prevent the growth of ice nucleation active bacteria on citrus as the weather turns cooler and wetter in the fall. Coppers also work on spring frost such as on tomato etc. but generally must be applied shortly after emergence and periodically to maintain a protective covering on the plant (much like any other protective fungicide).
The antagonist bacterium Pseudomonas fluorescens A506 (BlightBan A506 also works well on certain crops such as pear and apple, and is also applied to plant before a population of ice nucleation active bacteria have built up - it acts by competing with ice nucleators as they try to grow on plants. Frostgaurd has little effect on frost as far as I have ever seen. We did some tests on citrus a few years ago and saw no effect. It is based on some of my earlier work in which I showed that protein denaturants could be used as a "day-before" treatment to inactivate bacteria ice nuclei. This is still an effective strategy, but none of these agents is registered, and although some such as urea will not need registration, I have not pursued this for a while. As I understand Frostgaurd contains sugar water, and some copper salts, but at the concentrations that it is used probably could not act as a nucleation inhibitor."
Steve Sibbett
U.C. Farm Advisor
Phone - office 559.733.6486
Mobil 559.280.0666
FAX 559.734.2708
Frost Prevention notes from New Zealand
Neville Burt
1. Plant the most suitable varieties for your conditions. (in my case ).
2. Plant new trees after the last expected frost date to give maximum period of acclimatisation, before winter frosts.
3. Maintain area around tree free of weeds
4. Maintain moisture levels in soil especially over winter.
5. Avoid use of high nitrogenous fertilisers as these can cause soft growth easily damaged by cold.
6. Spray trees 10-14 daily with a product with frost reducing activity (I use kelp and EM-Effective Micro-organism)
7. Maintain organic matter around the tree to assist nutrient recycling and moisture retention.
Mogu masline i gdje ima mraza....ALI...sve ovisi koliko...itd. U Mesiniji i okolici Kalamate padne i snijeg...bude i mraza...ali i dalje se bave maslinarstvom. Isto je i sa narancama na Floridi.
Za mrazno podrucje...preporucuju se ove sorte: Leccino, Frantoio, Pendolino i Maurino.
Mnoga maslinarska podrucja...napr. Mesiniija, Kalamata...budu i snijezna i mrazna...ali ljudi znadu.....nakon stoljeca iskustva....kako i sta... prije i nakon snijega i mraza. To se znanje prenosi sa koljena na koljeno.
Preventing Frost Damage to Olive Trees
California Frost Prevention
Steve Sibbett
U.C. Farm Advisor
Here is some information I gleaned from Dr. Steve Lindow, University of California Plant Pathologist, Berkeley Calif. who has done considerable work with frost protection materials over the years as they effect ice nucleating bacteria. Of course, this information, by design, relates to California crops but should have some utility (indeed a starting point) for understanding the potential for olives.
Here are his comments: "The most effective frost control material for most crops is simply copper compounds - they are registered on most crops and, if applied as a preventative as far in advance of the frost as possible will generally provide significant frost control. This is what we recommend for use of citrus for example, where the coppers are generally applied about the end of October to prevent the growth of ice nucleation active bacteria on citrus as the weather turns cooler and wetter in the fall. Coppers also work on spring frost such as on tomato etc. but generally must be applied shortly after emergence and periodically to maintain a protective covering on the plant (much like any other protective fungicide).
The antagonist bacterium Pseudomonas fluorescens A506 (BlightBan A506 also works well on certain crops such as pear and apple, and is also applied to plant before a population of ice nucleation active bacteria have built up - it acts by competing with ice nucleators as they try to grow on plants. Frostgaurd has little effect on frost as far as I have ever seen. We did some tests on citrus a few years ago and saw no effect. It is based on some of my earlier work in which I showed that protein denaturants could be used as a "day-before" treatment to inactivate bacteria ice nuclei. This is still an effective strategy, but none of these agents is registered, and although some such as urea will not need registration, I have not pursued this for a while. As I understand Frostgaurd contains sugar water, and some copper salts, but at the concentrations that it is used probably could not act as a nucleation inhibitor."
Steve Sibbett
U.C. Farm Advisor
Phone - office 559.733.6486
Mobil 559.280.0666
FAX 559.734.2708
Frost Prevention notes from New Zealand
Neville Burt
1. Plant the most suitable varieties for your conditions. (in my case ).
2. Plant new trees after the last expected frost date to give maximum period of acclimatisation, before winter frosts.
3. Maintain area around tree free of weeds
4. Maintain moisture levels in soil especially over winter.
5. Avoid use of high nitrogenous fertilisers as these can cause soft growth easily damaged by cold.
6. Spray trees 10-14 daily with a product with frost reducing activity (I use kelp and EM-Effective Micro-organism)
7. Maintain organic matter around the tree to assist nutrient recycling and moisture retention.
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#11
ovo je odlicno. Je li znas da li su mozda sorte koje se uzgajaju u Abrucu (Abruzzo) rezistentnije na hladnocu, Dritta, Morella? Vidim da se u Italiji vecinom uzgajaju od Toskane juznije, a postoje i na jezeru Garda. Abruzzo mi je zanimljiv u ovom kontekstu, jer znam da Rimljani idu tamo na skijanje a uzgajaju se i masline
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#12
Nemam pojma o Italiji. Samo znam za Grciju...SAD....i imam sliku masline iz Stoca. Stari Zijo usadio ispred obnovljene dzamije....pa ja uslikala. Stolac je (cini mi se) ledeniji i od Mostara...a dabome...i od Capljine. Tako...ako more u Stocu...valjda more i malo sjeverjnije od Mostara. Ovisno od polozaja...ko ju god usadi....moze izmanipulirat polozaj koji bi stablo imalo mikro-klimu!basta sljezove boje wrote:ovo je odlicno. Je li znas da li su mozda sorte koje se uzgajaju u Abrucu (Abruzzo) rezistentnije na hladnocu, Dritta, Morella? Vidim da se u Italiji vecinom uzgajaju od Toskane juznije, a postoje i na jezeru Garda. Abruzzo mi je zanimljiv u ovom kontekstu, jer znam da Rimljani idu tamo na skijanje a uzgajaju se i masline
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#13
Mogu masline i do minus desetak stepeni da izdrze. Naravno ne svaka vrsta i naravno ne, da je citavu zimu minus deset. U okolini Burse se sade Gemlik masline koje su dosta otporne na hladnocu. Ne proporucuje se da bude koliko znam nadmorska visina veca od 600 metara tamo gdje se sade i one bi mogle da daju prve plodove za otprilike sedam godina sto je za masline veoma brzo. Samo zavisi za sta se sade jer imaju vrste za pravljenje ulja i druge za plodove.
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eh to i ja podjo napisat za Gemlik, i mogu u hladnijim predjelima, ima i h i na obali Crnog mora koja je dosta hladna...a po i Istanbulu ima maslina isto na svakom cosku, a Istanbul je zimi takodje pravo hladan...uozo wrote:Mogu masline i do minus desetak stepeni da izdrze. Naravno ne svaka vrsta i naravno ne, da je citavu zimu minus deset. U okolini Burse se sade Gemlik masline koje su dosta otporne na hladnocu. Ne proporucuje se da bude koliko znam nadmorska visina veca od 600 metara tamo gdje se sade i one bi mogle da daju prve plodove za otprilike sedam godina sto je za masline veoma brzo. Samo zavisi za sta se sade jer imaju vrste za pravljenje ulja i druge za plodove.
vec je neko reko da je bio maslinjak u okolini Stoca i da je spaljen, al sam cito prije jedno dvije godine da je negjde ponovo u Popvu polju ili okolini zasadjen jedan maslinjak, i da ima negdje oko Capljine isto maslina.
ja znam da smokva moze u Konjicu bez problema, al ne bi reko da moze maslina.
kolko ja znam maslina radja svake druge godine....
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#15
Maslina radja svake godine. Berba, kraj novembra - pocetak decembra.
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