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#1 zwinger palača,topkapi palača ...

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... forbidden city , beijing,kina ; grand palace,bangkok,thailand dijele nesto zajednicko



da


mnostvo zena jednog muskarca :-D


emperiori su imali svoje konkubine
sultani svoje zene u haremu
ludjak/bez sumnje/ herni je imao 6 zena


pored,nama poznatih faktora koji su uslovili gore opisani nacin provodjena slobodnog vremena u drustvu zena,vlro je interesatno podvuci potrebu muskaraca ka doticnom luksuzu u gore spomenutim drustvima,a mnogi tako nesto nisu nikad ni pokusali

naspiala sma samo primjere iz njemcake,engleske,turske,kine i tajlanda


znate li jos neke primjere i njihovu histo-geo-grafiju :?: :-D

profil dotcnih cu kasnije opisati ;-)
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ljubav_aha wrote:... forbidden city , beijing,kina ; grand palace,bangkok,thailand dijele nesto zajednicko



da


mnostvo zena jednog muskarca :-D


emperiori su imali svoje konkubine
sultani svoje zene u haremu
ludjak/bez sumnje/ herni je imao 6 zena


pored,nama poznatih faktora koji su uslovili gore opisani nacin provodjena slobodnog vremena u drustvu zena,vlro je interesatno podvuci potrebu muskaraca ka doticnom luksuzu u gore spomenutim drustvima,a mnogi tako nesto nisu nikad ni pokusali

naspiala sma samo primjere iz njemcake,engleske,turske,kine i tajlanda


znate li jos neke primjere i njihovu histo-geo-grafiju :?: :-D

profil dotcnih cu kasnije opisati ;-)
:roll: I riječ Palača se ponavlja...napraviš sebi palaču... otvoriš vrata...žene same uliječu... :-D
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#3 Re: zwinger palača,topkapi palača ...

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Pitam se shta bi na to rek'o prof.dr. Zgembo Adislić :lol:
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kmirasad,nisu svi sa palacama imali javno toliko konkubina,ljubavnica,kako god bile definisane ;-)

ljuska_u_baklaFi :)
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concubinus, concubini, n
declension: 2, gender: M
1. catamite
2. kept man, one who lives in concubinage
3. male paramour


In Ancient Rome,this was the title of a young male who was chosen by his master as a lover
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ljubav_aha wrote:kmirasad,nisu svi sa palacama imali javno toliko konkubina,ljubavnica,kako god bile definisane ;-)

ljuska_u_baklaFi :)
de ba... haj nabroj... jednog... ili jednu... ;-)
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kmirsad wrote:
ljubav_aha wrote:kmirasad,nisu svi sa palacama imali javno toliko konkubina,ljubavnica,kako god bile definisane ;-)

ljuska_u_baklaFi :)
de ba... haj nabroj... jednog... ili jednu... ;-)
nisma razumjela pitanje :!:
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ma nije do tebe... ja sam prolupao...kompresione karike... :-D
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Para na paru, us na fukaru, vazda bilo i ostalo.
Od davnina se nista nije promijenilo.................
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tacno,cak su muske konkubine bile upravo drustvo obogacenih vlasnika palace
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Neke stvari se nikad ne mjenjaju... zene su uvijek postovjecuju sa bogatstvom i moci...
ako danas u svijetu feminizma i osvjestenosti zena neki beg samo zato sto ima pare uvijek ima zene oko sebe ni malo me ne cudi zasto su prije muskarci imali hareme kad je zeni jedino trebao mu da joj pruzi krov nad glavom i obrok...
Pretpostvljam da je to bila i odredena privilegija... u harem su mogle uci samo najljepse zene... koje su onda uzivale u svim blagodatima a bile sacuvane od teskog rada ...
Misliim play boy mention nije nista drugo vec harem.

Imati harem i konkubine je prije bio pokazatelj muske moci... biti kurtizana je bila dokaz zenske moci... bas se nesto narocito ni danas nije promjenilo...
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GM,hvala

meni je ovaj dio npr. interesatan

Dolmabache Palace and Harem

A magnificent 19th century palace with 14 tons of pure gold used for its interior decoration... famous Harem and the Concubines Section where klix were educated before being presented to the Sultan and then accepted into the Harem

http://www.anadol.com/an-sp.htm
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ljubav_aha wrote:GM,hvala

meni je ovaj dio npr. interesatan

Dolmabache Palace and Harem

A magnificent 19th century palace with 14 tons of pure gold used for its interior decoration... famous Harem and the Concubines Section where klix were educated before being presented to the Sultan and then accepted into the Harem

http://www.anadol.com/an-sp.htm
Pa normala, nece se valjda sultan sam muciti da ih obucava... :)
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pezzar wrote:
ljubav_aha wrote:GM,hvala

meni je ovaj dio npr. interesatan

Dolmabache Palace and Harem

A magnificent 19th century palace with 14 tons of pure gold used for its interior decoration... famous Harem and the Concubines Section where klix were educated before being presented to the Sultan and then accepted into the Harem

http://www.anadol.com/an-sp.htm
Pa normala, nece se valjda sultan sam muciti da ih obucava... :)

sto si tacno htio reci :!: :?:

sustina je o postojanju kriterija
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ljubav_aha wrote:
pezzar wrote:
ljubav_aha wrote:GM,hvala

meni je ovaj dio npr. interesatan

Dolmabache Palace and Harem

A magnificent 19th century palace with 14 tons of pure gold used for its interior decoration... famous Harem and the Concubines Section where klix were educated before being presented to the Sultan and then accepted into the Harem

http://www.anadol.com/an-sp.htm
Pa normala, nece se valjda sultan sam muciti da ih obucava... :)

sto si tacno htio reci :!: :?:

sustina je o postojanju kriterija
Upravo tako, ali nije bila dovoljna ljepota, zena je morala biti vjesta ljubavnica, i zato su ih obucavali.
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pezzar wrote:
Upravo tako, ali nije bila dovoljna ljepota, zena je morala biti vjesta ljubavnica, i zato su ih obucavali.
ko ih je obucavao :?:
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interesatni detalji o topkapi palaci

The Harem was located so it could not be seen from the palace apartments or public areas. I was fascinated by the tales of Harem life:

The head Eunuch was a Black African (castrated) ovo sam znala
Mirrors where installed at the entrance and exits to catch concubines trying to sneak out. nisma znala ,ali je razumljivo
The eunuchs arranged for Jewish merchants to bring their goods into the Harem so that the concubines could shop.
The Harem was very elaborate because the first Sultan fell in love with and married one of the concubines.
Concubines who bore a son for the Sultan got a room with a view.
Educated concubines kept the books for the palace.
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forbidden city

Emperors were entitled to several wives and many concubines. (Qianlong had two official wives and 29 concubines). Concubines were well-educated women selected from the best Manchu families. Nightly, the Emperor would decide which concubine would visit him that evening. She would then be stripped, bathed and depilated before being carried to his chamber. The number of times a concubine was chosen secured her social standing.
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ljubav_aha wrote:
pezzar wrote:
Upravo tako, ali nije bila dovoljna ljepota, zena je morala biti vjesta ljubavnica, i zato su ih obucavali.
ko ih je obucavao :?:
Procitah u jednom romanu (navodno su ovakve stvari koje se ticu historije, stila zivota provjereni fakti) u kojem se dosta radnje odvija u haremu, da su "uciteljice" bile starije zene, koje su nekada drzale primat u susretima sa sultanom...
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Tek vidjeh da pricamo o razlicitim vrstama obrazovanja... :) Sto ti je musko, odmah o seksu razmislja...:lol:

O tome ko je doticne obrazovao o kulturi, matematici i sl. stvarno ne znam... :) Mozda eunusi?
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pezzar wrote:Tek vidjeh da pricamo o razlicitim vrstama obrazovanja... :) Sto ti je musko, odmah o seksu razmislja...:lol:

O tome ko je doticne obrazovao o kulturi, matematici i sl. stvarno ne znam... :) Mozda eunusi?

prvi dio :lol: :thumbup:

drugi dio,dolazile vec obrazovne,osim sto su naravno imale daljnji pristup bibiloteci/sto sma napsiala u prethodnom postu/ :-D

enusi nisu imali takvu funkciju
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Mene ni malo ne iznenaduje ta cinjenica da su konkubine, kurtizane pa gejse a danas luksuzne eskort dame bile obrazovane zene...
Stvar je u tome, da koliko god muskarac bio mocan i jak uvijek je trebao zenu da sa njom razgovara i razmjenjuje misljenja a ne samo da mu zadovolji fiziolosku potrebu, zene su bile te koje su upravljale muskarcima a oni svijetom :D

Neznam koliko ste culi ali trenutno svijetom luksuza vladaju neo sponzoruse,nema nikakve narocite ralike izmedu njih kurtizana i gejsi.
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Gospoda Ministarka wrote:Mene ni malo ne iznenaduje ta cinjenica da su konkubine, kurtizane pa gejse a danas luksuzne eskort dame bile obrazovane zene...
Stvar je u tome, da koliko god muskarac bio mocan i jak uvijek je trebao zenu da sa njom razgovara i razmjenjuje misljenja a ne samo da mu zadovolji fiziolosku potrebu, zene su bile te koje su upravljale muskarcima a oni svijetom :D

Neznam koliko ste culi ali trenutno svijetom luksuza vladaju neo sponzoruse,nema nikakve narocite ralike izmedu njih kurtizana i gejsi.
mnoge su bitke vodjene zbog zena i mnoge su zavrsavane zbog zena...crnjak ali tako je...doduse mozda nece jos dugo sad su pederi u modi :D :run:
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Njanjo wrote:
Gospoda Ministarka wrote:Mene ni malo ne iznenaduje ta cinjenica da su konkubine, kurtizane pa gejse a danas luksuzne eskort dame bile obrazovane zene...
Stvar je u tome, da koliko god muskarac bio mocan i jak uvijek je trebao zenu da sa njom razgovara i razmjenjuje misljenja a ne samo da mu zadovolji fiziolosku potrebu, zene su bile te koje su upravljale muskarcima a oni svijetom :D

Neznam koliko ste culi ali trenutno svijetom luksuza vladaju neo sponzoruse,nema nikakve narocite ralike izmedu njih kurtizana i gejsi.
mnoge su bitke vodjene zbog zena i mnoge su zavrsavane zbog zena...crnjak ali tako je...doduse mozda nece jos dugo sad su pederi u modi :D :run:
Meni je oduvijek bilo zanimljivo koliko su najveci drzavnici svijeta bili slabi na voljene zene, Napoleon covjek koji je vladao Evropom je na samrti trazio da njegovo srce poslaju njegovoj voljenoj Mariji Luizi,
Kleopatra i Marko Antonije, Mumtaz Mahal koji je izgradio najljepsi spomenik za svoju voljenu...

Njanjo... biti homoseksualac je danas stvar mode.
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A moglo bi se, isto tako reči i da je moda danas... stvar pedera... :lol:
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