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#55226 Re: Liverpool FC

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The operation between Antoine Griezmann and Saúl Niguez is currently dead. Atletico doesn't want to offer money in the exchanged and Saul isn't short of offers from the Premier League.

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#55227 Re: Liverpool FC

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Romano o Saúlu:
Liverpool and Chelsea have made proposals to Saul Niguez. Both clubs are waiting to see what happens with Barcelona in the coming days. If it collapses, the clubs will be ready to jump into the race. [@FabrizioRomano]
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#55228 Re: Liverpool FC

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Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain has impressed Liverpool coaches in training when operating further up the pitch, and will be considered for the number 10 and wide forward roles next season. [liverpool echo]
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#55229 Re: Liverpool FC

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#55230 Re: Liverpool FC

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Like a new signing... Debili slagirani.
Opet dajte veznjake na stopere, binde skrte.
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zomri wrote: 18/07/2021 00:03
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#55233 Re: Liverpool FC

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BHF_Manijak wrote: 18/07/2021 00:03 Like a new signing... Debili slagirani.
Opet dajte veznjake na stopere, binde skrte.
Ma doći će i ofanzivac, tako da iz tog ugla nemam problema sa ovim. Ox neće ići nigdje, tako da mi bar prija čuti da se nešto planira i sa njim ako će već ostati. Iritantno je kada ti igrač onako tu zjapi i služi kao čunj na treningu.
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#55234 Re: Liverpool FC

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The deal for a swap between Griezmann and Saul cools down. Saul prefers to go to the Premier League. Atleti don’t think they can pay Griezmann’s salary.

@ellarguero
On ako nema namjeru skresati platu onda od ovog nema ništa. Chelseau sa druge strane to neće biti problem.

Mada postoji priča da ne želi pristati na smanjenje plate kada je Barca u pitanju čisto iz razloga što mu se ne ide tamo.

Edwards je u dobrim odnosima sa agentom mu, tako da se možda nešto tu odigra.
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#55235 Re: Liverpool FC

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ja sam oxa i ocekivao u toj nekoj roli ofanzivnog veznjaka

problem je u tome sto lik ne moze sastaviti 10 utakmica u sezoni
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#55236 Re: Liverpool FC

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Trent i Matip će biti spremni za ove mini utakmice u utorak, Virgil i Gomez će još sačekati.
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#55237 Re: Liverpool FC

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Brighton and Hove Albion are poised to step up their interest in Liverpool’s Nat Phillips now that Ben White is on his way to Arsenal. Phillips is understood to be a leading choice to restore the numbers in the centre of defence. [the athletic]
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#55238 Re: Liverpool FC

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Nadam se da znaju sta rade i u kakvoj su formi Matip, Gomez i VVD.
Za Matipa znamo da je staklen, Gomez slično ali malo manje, a Virgil je nepoznanica nakon svega.
Kabaka nisu htjeli, Nata će prodati... da ne bude da se odbrana krpi sa Rhysom uz Konatea ili nekim ko je zdrav.
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“It’s felt by some that if Liverpool don’t actively engage on terms that are deemed fair to Henderson who has achieved so much, and given so much to the cause, then a departure could become more likely than a renewal.”

If this was Jurgen Klopp’s call alone, an agreement with Jordan Henderson would already have been signed. But Wijnaldum’s exit has underlined that the Liverpool manager doesn’t have complete control when it comes to contracts.

What’s clear is that this isn’t about money, this is about feeling wanted. He knows Klopp’s plan for him, but what about the club? Henderson doesn’t want to be kept around just to give stirring pep talks and help new players settle in.
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Nevjerovatno.
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#55241 Re: Liverpool FC

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There are plenty of contract negotiations going on at Liverpool. For sporting director Michael Edwards, a big part of his work this summer involves retaining the club’s elite talent and protecting their value.

Goalkeeper Alisson is expected to sign a new long-term contract before the start of the new season, as is fellow Brazilian Fabinho. Liverpool are also looking to agree lucrative extensions with Virgil van Dijk, Mohamed Salah and Sadio Mane. They all have deals that run until the summer of 2023. Full-backs Trent Alexander-Arnold and Andrew Robertson have a year longer but their ongoing importance is also set to be recognised.

However, it has gone under the radar somewhat that another inspirational figure has entered the final two years of his existing contract.

For long-serving Liverpool captain Jordan Henderson, the future is far from certain. The Athletic understands that while talks over an extension have taken place during this off-season period, no real progress has been made.

Negotiations haven’t broken down and sources stress that dialogue is ongoing but it’s both a complicated and sensitive situation. The reality is that Liverpool’s owner Fenway Sports Group (FSG) currently has bigger priorities to address in the squad.

And the uncertainty leaves the door open for suitors of the talismanic midfielder, who celebrated a decade of service to the club last month, when he also turned 31, and is currently on holiday following his run with England to the final of Euro 2020.

There are parallels with Georginio Wijnaldum, who failed to agree fresh terms and ended up leaving when his contract ran out this summer before signing a three-year deal with Paris Saint-Germain.

Liverpool would have considered selling Wijnaldum when he entered his final year last summer to avoid the prospect of losing him for nothing but no such offers were forthcoming.

Wijnaldum is 31 in November and FSG, who have a policy of investing in youth, simply wouldn’t sanction either the wages or the length of deal he was looking for to extend his five-year stay at Anfield. Henderson will be 33 by the time his current contract expires.

PSG coach Mauricio Pochettino is understood to be an admirer of Henderson’s, and the former Tottenham manager is keeping a close eye on developments.

The same goes for Atletico Madrid. Henderson remains good friends with Luis Suarez, who would relish the prospect of being reunited with his former Liverpool team-mate. PSG and Atletico have previous for signing vastly experienced players on big wages, although whether Atletico currently have the finances to do such a deal is unclear.

The way in which Liverpool allowed Wijnaldum’s contract to run down has alerted the market to the fact that Henderson could be available. Jurgen Klopp’s admiration and loyalty to his captain — both as a player and a person — is unwavering. They have a close bond. Klopp credits him with fostering the spirit and unity that helped propel Liverpool to Champions League and Premier League glory. Klopp views Henderson as a role model who sets the standards every day.

If this was Klopp’s call alone, then talks over an extension would have been a formality and an agreement would already have been signed. But Wijnaldum’s exit underlined that the Liverpool manager doesn’t have complete control when it comes to contracts. If he did, the Netherlands international would still be at Anfield because Klopp was desperate to keep him.

Yes, Klopp has an input in the process but ultimately the final say on financial matters rests with FSG president Mike Gordon and Edwards. Liverpool’s ownership doesn’t simply do whatever Klopp wants and the manager accepts that as a healthy state of affairs. Wijnaldum knew how highly the German rated him but left because he didn’t feel valued enough by the club itself. There was disappointment but no animosity or bitterness, as shown by the warm send-off he was given.

For Gordon and Edwards, it’s a delicate balancing act. They have to take the emotion out of these situations.

For a club with a self-sustaining business model, deciding where best to channel their resources is vital. They have to make tough decisions for the greater good of the club, especially as the pandemic has damaged revenue streams and had an impact on the kind of terms they can offer.

Put simply, they can’t just allow the squad to grow old together.

Mane, Salah, Roberto Firmino, Joel Matip and Xherdan Shaqiri are all 29. Van Dijk and Thiago are 30, Henderson is a year older and James Milner, who is set to be out of contract next summer, is 35. Experience is important, especially to help youngsters such as Curtis Jones, 20, and Harvey Elliott, 18, bed in but there needs to be the right blend.

Henderson is a huge presence in the dressing room. Vice-captain Milner is another whose long-term future is in doubt but Liverpool are blessed when it comes to leaders. Van Dijk, Salah and Robertson all wear the armband for their country.

A big part of the FSG strategy this summer surrounds player retention. Edwards and Gordon are trying to shape what the squad is going to look like for the next three or four years. Liverpool have bought 22-year-old centre-back Ibrahima Konate from RB Leipzig for £35 million in this window but they aren’t embarking on a major spending spree. Any other business that follows in the current window will be heavily linked to the sales of fringe players such as Harry Wilson and Marko Grujic.

Instead, FSG views 2022 as the year to really start refreshing and regenerating the squad. It believes that by then, the financial impact of the pandemic will have receded and the market will be more settled.

Next summer, as things stand, Naby Keita and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain will be among those entering the final year of their existing deals.

So, where does all that leave Liverpool’s Champions League and Premier League-winning captain? Is FSG really committed to players of his profile?

“It’s the contract that’s been spoken about the least but probably tells the biggest story. This is a critical summer for Jordan,” a source familiar with the situation tells The Athletic.

Henderson himself has kept his own counsel. It’s not his way to agitate. He’s too respectful and puts the team and the club first. But what’s clear is that this isn’t about money, this is about feeling wanted. He knows Klopp’s plan for him, but what about the club? What role do they see for him going forward?

Henderson doesn’t want to be kept around just to give stirring pep talks and help new players settle in. He doesn’t want Liverpool to renew his contract because they think it’s the right thing to do but because they believe he still has much to offer on the pitch in the pursuit of more trophies.

Former Liverpool team-mate and close friend Adam Lallana recently spoke about he feels Henderson is under-appreciated as a player. There is so much focus on his leadership that it detracts from his qualities as an elite midfielder.

Henderson won the 2020 Football Writers’ Association Footballer of the Year award having predominantly played as a No 8 in Liverpool’s title-winning side. Last season then showed his versatility, as he played mainly as a No 6 and filled in at centre-back due to injuries before suffering a torn adductor muscle in his groin, which required surgery in February. The club’s medical and sports science staff were hugely impressed by his dedication and commitment in rehab that enabled him to get back fit in time to play at the Euros.

Henderson, who is eight short of 400 Liverpool appearances, is convinced that his most productive years are ahead of him. He believes he can play at the highest level into his mid-30s and is not interested in a managed decline.

His importance to Liverpool is underlined by the stats.

Going back to the start of 2016-17 and Klopp’s first full season in charge, Liverpool have lost 13 of the 116 league games where Henderson has been in the line-up — that’s 11 per cent. Of the 56 league games they have started without him over that period, they have been beaten 10 times – 18 per cent.

Liverpool have scored an average of 1.27 goals per game when he has started. That figure drops to 0.59 goals per game when he hasn’t.

There are certainly lessons to be learned from how the latter stages of Steven Gerrard’s Liverpool career were handled.

Gerrard was 34 when he announced, in January 2015, that he would be leaving his boyhood club when his contract expired that summer. Disappointment was caused by what Gerrard felt was a half-hearted attempt by the club to keep him on board.

A meeting between his agent Struan Marshall and then-chief executive Ian Ayre to discuss a new deal lasted just 15 minutes. He was offered a one-year extension, but with a 40 per cent wage cut. It was heavily incentivised with performance-related bonuses but then-manager Brendan Rodgers had already informed Gerrard that his game time was going to be reduced.

“It seemed as if I wanted them more than they wanted me,” Gerrard wrote in his autobiography. Gerrard ended his playing career with an 18-month stint at LA Galaxy in Major League Soccer, later admitting he regretted not staying at Liverpool for an extra year as he would have got the chance to play under Klopp.

Henderson hasn’t rejected an offer from Liverpool but, clearly, if what is currently on the table was acceptable then a deal would already have been signed.

Klopp’s captain, who is due to report back for pre-season training in early August after a post-Euro 2020 holiday, is too highly respected to just let the situation drag on for another 12 months and allow his deal to enter its final year.

It’s felt by some that if Liverpool don’t actively engage on terms that are deemed fair to someone who has achieved so much, and given so much to the cause, then a departure could become more likely than a renewal.

Football clubs have to evolve without dwelling on sentiment, while a player’s career is short and they understandably want to maximise what they can get out of it. You can see it from both sides.

As key personnel at Liverpool sign new contracts in the coming weeks and months, it will be intriguing to see what happens with Henderson.

When he signed his last contract, in September 2018, he talked about wanting to stay at Anfield for the rest of his career. “There is no other place in the world I would rather play football. I want to be here for as long as I can be,” he said.

Despite the trophies he has lifted and the immense sacrifices he has made over the past decade, whether he gets that opportunity is now unclear.
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#55242 Re: Liverpool FC

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pa ništa čudno ko imalo prati pisanja, pa i ovdje po forumu. nisi golman ili stoper a imaš 30 godina - zaboravi neki long term ugovor u ovom liverpoolu ko god da si. uskoro isto ide salahu i ostatku trojke naprijed.
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#55243 Re: Liverpool FC

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A nece da uloze 50 miliona u igraca kao zamjenu?
Pa za 3 godine ce izgubiti 5-6 igraca, a nece dovesti trojicu da su adekvatne zamjene.
Uostalom Milnera su ispostovali, Hendu bi svakako trebali. I sam tekst kaze da novac nije problem.
Henda i na klupi bi valjao u svojo 34-toj.
Ako mogu Ox, Keita, Saqiri, Origi, i jos plejada "pojacanja" da uzima platu samo da dolazi na treninge, onda moze i Henda.
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#55244 Re: Liverpool FC

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Milneru se produžava po godinu, pitanje je da li bi Hendo pristao na to. Ponavlja se ista priča kao za Ginija, možeš ostati, produžićemo ti ali ne na dugoročno. Igraču opada vrijednost rapidno poslije 30te tako da je to ta ekonomska logika.
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#55245 Re: Liverpool FC

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Pa uprosječi mu vrijednost na 4 godine i takav ugovor ponudi. Tekst kaže da nije zapelo oko novca.
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#55246 Re: Liverpool FC

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Jordan Henderson is facing an uncertain future with a number of Europe's top clubs waiting to pounce. Contract discussions were not fruitful and there is now an impasse; as things stand, there is no indication when - or if - talks will resume.
There is a real possibility that Jordan Henderson will leave Liverpool this summer.

Both PSG and Atletico Madrid would be keen on a deal. [@DominicKing_DM]
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#55247 Re: Liverpool FC

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Henderson would be prepared to move if Liverpool give the indication they are ready to sell. Jurgen Klopp would be loathe to lose a man whom he has come to rely upon in some ways, particularly having seen the influential Wijnaldum when his contract expired, as per @DominicKing_DM
Ma ja ne vjerujem u ovo.
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#55248 Re: Liverpool FC

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drug_profi wrote: 19/07/2021 13:51 Pa uprosječi mu vrijednost na 4 godine i takav ugovor ponudi. Tekst kaže da nije zapelo oko novca.
ne možeš znati koliko će mu pasti vrijednost, zato i ne ide dugoročni ugovor. a i jako je teško postići povoljan ugovor sa strane kluba sa igračem koji je trenutno u peaku. on hoće koliko sada vrijedi, a klub kolika je procijenjena vrijednost na kraju ugovora.

sa strane ekonomske logike najbolja opcija je prodati. navijački, to se čini kao samoubistvo.
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#55249 Re: Liverpool FC

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Nije problem prodaje i odlaska, problem je sto ove kurcine ne dovode zamjene.
Doci ce do kraja prelaznog i onda 4 nakva debila, uzet za po 6 miliona nekih kuraca... Ista prica sa stoperima prosle godine.
To je ona da se jebe, a da ne udje. Daj prodaj ovo skarta za po 15 miliona i ako oni mogu da isplate neki transfer.
Zaboravljaju da taj skart nije Coutinho, da ode za 120 ili talentovana djeca sa 20-21. godinom, pa da ih uvale za 20+ miliona, vec polovnjaci s po 25-30 godina u guzici.
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#55250 Re: Liverpool FC

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Henderson is not somebody who courts headlines, especially ones such as this, and it is understood that he and his camp have no problem with anything that has been written. Nor, it should be stressed, do LFC. The story is out there because it is true.

That’s a lot of work for Michael Edwards, to get through. Liverpool are keen to retain the bulk of their current squad, including Henderson, but perhaps they have underestimated their skipper’s desire to sort out his future swiftly.

Jurgen Klopp wanted desperately to keep Gini Wijnaldum, who was one of his vice-captains, but Liverpool were not willing to give Wijnaldum the terms, and crucially the length of contract, he wanted.

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