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#51 Re: jedite jer iduce godine u ovo vrijeme necete

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koliko god naslov ove teme bio nevjerovatan, ovaj problem NE TREBA podcijeniti...

kome se da, evo prilike da izanalizira ovu prilozenu "analizu"...

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Food for thought as other crisis hits hard

Tony Burke
November 20, 2008


There is something worse than having one GFC. That's having two. Amid the international response to the global financial crisis, many people have stopped talking about the other GFC: the global food crisis.

It is still with us and not hard to find, from food prices in supermarkets worldwide to hunger in the Pacific, Asia and Africa. There were food riots in Africa and South-East Asia this year, and the crisis was linked to the fall of the Haitian government. Unless its causes are dealt with, it will worsen in the years to come.

Those causes are not well understood. The view that it is simply because biofuels use food for fuel is wrong.

Biofuels policies may have made us reach the crisis more quickly but the long-term trends have shown that food demand has been catching up with supply over many years.

The reasons include the growing world population and lower average harvests affected by climate change.

The good news story that much of the developing world is becoming wealthier has brought new challenges. As people become richer, they demand more meat. This causes farmers to shift from cropping to grazing and producing food for livestock and people.

As many developing nations modernise their economies, the agriculture sector tends to come last, meaning countries undergoing massive urban expansion still practise subsistence agriculture.

This is the world's challenge: to produce more food, while combating climate change, dealing with increasing water scarcity and coping with the financial crisis.

This will be front-of-mind when the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organisation gathers this week in Rome.

As you would expect, none of the simple answers work.

Reversing biofuels policies in some parts of the world is not sufficient to offset long-term pressures on food supply. On its own, aid won't do the trick either. When aid is cash or food supplies, it can be counterproductive, causing the local market to crash and wipe out the livelihoods of local farmers.

The crisis carries humanitarian responsibility and economic opportunity for food-exporting nations such as Australia. We need to respond in three ways: aid, technology transfer and increasing our productivity.

The Government has allocated over $100 million to improving global food security, including to the World Food Programme's emergency appeal.

Then you have the Australian Centre for International Agricultural Research, which fits the adage of teaching people to fish to feed them for a lifetime. By sending agricultural experts to nations such as East Timor and Vietnam, Australia is helping the poorest nations to come closer to feeding their own populations.

But the crisis is not only felt in developing nations. We've been seeing the effect at our checkout counters for many months. According to the FAO's Food Price Index, world food prices fell by 6 per cent in September, but were still 51 per cent higher than they were two years ago.

This drives home the pressures that pensioners, carers and working families started facing well before the global financial crisis hit.

The hardest part of the response is to produce more food. Much of our nation remains in its longest and deepest drought, and farm costs such as chemical, fertiliser and fuel have soared.

We need to do more to get our research and development from the lab to the farm, and find synergies between the pressures of climate change and increasing productivity.

Given the challenges the world faces, we cannot ignore the potential of genetically modified organisms. It has always been a sensitive issue and, as with all food technology, food-safety issues are paramount. While food safety may be a reason to ultimately reject particular plants, it is not a reason to reject the science of genetic modification.

When India switched to genetically modified cotton, it increased productivity by 75 per cent in four years. It went from a net importer of cotton to the world's second-largest exporter.

None of us know if such gains will come from other crops, but ignoring the potential of genetic modification puts superstition ahead of science.

It will be some time before the end of either GFC. But the decisions we take now, as a nation and as a planet, will affect the prosperity and livelihoods of all the world's citizens for decades to come.

Tony Burke is the federal Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry.
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#52 Re: jedite jer iduce godine u ovo vrijeme necete

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walkabout wrote:
Tony Burke is the federal Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry.
svakako dobar izvjestaj. medjutim, meni nije potreban Tony Burke da bih to primjetio. pogledajte npr cinjenicu da Bill Gates u suradnji sa Rockefeller Fondacijom i glavnom svjetskom (americkom) agrarnom industrijom, prave gigantski silo na ledenim ostrvima Norveske (Svaalbard, cini mi se), gdje ce trajno ocuvati preko 3 miliona razlicitih prirodnih sjemenki iz svih krajeva svijeta...

znam i nesto vise o ovom, ali prepustam zainteresirane da sami istraze...
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#53 Re: jedite jer iduce godine u ovo vrijeme necete

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Neko je napisao da jedino sto mu je drago je da ce ovi koji su glasali za Hareta i Co gladovati zajedno sa nama. Moram priznati da je i meni to neka vrsta satisfakcije.

Nekad pozelim da sve ovdje stane, da nas vrate 50 godina nazad. Jer sve sto smo mi naucili zadnjih 20 godina je: SUTI, DOBRO JE DOK NE TUKU.

I nece biti nemira kad se digne PDV, niti ce neko dati ostavku kad opet bude mrtvih u tramvaju. Nista se nece promjeniti, samo cemo biti gladniji i gladniji...

Gledam one borce sto su dosli pred federalnu vladu, ona lopina im pruza ruku a oni se usrase od srece...ko neka licnost...

I sta ocekivati? Gdje gledati? Cemu se nadati?

Nakon milion poslanih aplikacija za posao, nadam se sto skorijem ratu, gladi i bijedi...

Meni bi neki nuklearni sasvim odgovarao...da crknu i lopovi samnom. :D
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#54 Re: jedite jer iduce godine u ovo vrijeme necete

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ne zboravte da su na Haitiiju ljudi u avgustu umirali od gladi....
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#55 Re: jedite jer iduce godine u ovo vrijeme necete

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koji vam je đavo ljudi
prošle godine ste me plašili ulje 8 km a hljeb 5
pa ste kukali ode RS
pa bih broji svoje posljednje dane
pa dodik grabi ka samostalnosti RS

još xy stvari

ljudi moji mi smo samo mala kap u moru svjetskih dešavanja niti išta možemo promijeniti niti pomoći a niti odmoći...

na unutarnjem planu opet niš ne možemo postići
ovdje imamo 500 aktivnih clanova a nacionalističke stranke imaju zajedno 500000 članova

samo se beze nervirate :cry: :skoljka:
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mg wrote:Neko je napisao da jedino sto mu je drago je da ce ovi koji su glasali za Hareta i Co gladovati zajedno sa nama. Moram priznati da je i meni to neka vrsta satisfakcije.

Nekad pozelim da sve ovdje stane, da nas vrate 50 godina nazad. Jer sve sto smo mi naucili zadnjih 20 godina je: SUTI, DOBRO JE DOK NE TUKU.

I nece biti nemira kad se digne PDV, niti ce neko dati ostavku kad opet bude mrtvih u tramvaju. Nista se nece promjeniti, samo cemo biti gladniji i gladniji...

Gledam one borce sto su dosli pred federalnu vladu, ona lopina im pruza ruku a oni se usrase od srece...ko neka licnost...

I sta ocekivati? Gdje gledati? Cemu se nadati?

Nakon milion poslanih aplikacija za posao, nadam se sto skorijem ratu, gladi i bijedi...

Meni bi neki nuklearni sasvim odgovarao...da crknu i lopovi samnom. :D
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#57 Re: jedite jer iduce godine u ovo vrijeme necete

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Bosanac sa dna kace wrote:ne zboravte da su na Haitiiju ljudi u avgustu umirali od gladi....
Haj i ti brate :D

Salim se :mrgreen:
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#58 Re: jedite jer iduce godine u ovo vrijeme necete

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ako se sjecam na haitiju su pravili kruh od pijeska...

:-?
vala ako nista imamo zemlje... pa sadi sta oces i gdje ocec

nece biti više sistem menađer... neko krampać menađer ak želiš preživjeti
to bi i dobro izgledalo kada vidim ove magistre i asistente koji nam palamude preko državne sise :-x
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#59 Re: jedite jer iduce godine u ovo vrijeme necete

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komi wrote:ako se sjecam na haitiju su pravili kruh od pijeska...

:-?
vala ako nista imamo zemlje... pa sadi sta oces i gdje ocec

nece biti više sistem menađer... neko krampać menađer ak želiš preživjeti
to bi i dobro izgledalo kada vidim ove magistre i asistente koji nam palamude preko državne sise :-x
E baš si pogodio.
Zato su stranke nastojale "iškolovati svoj kadar"postaviti ih gdje može ,napravili privid odlaganjem privatizacije državnih muzara,ali sad se bliži krah,valja živiti a odnos proizvodnih i ostalih zaposlenih je katastrofalan,uz to privilegije i kasa nemože izdržati.
Zato guraju omladinu da se školuju,a unapred znaju da je to samo dobijanje na vremenu,jer nadolazeči "kapitalizam" je neumoljiv.
Djaba zvanja,znanja i sl.valja piti vode iz ruke,a pametnu insanu je to teško.
Ko zna manje privatne firme da tetoše fakultetlije,neka nabace podatke cca.
Vidjeli smo neki dan na TV stanje na berzama rada (djeca "sirotije "su završila fak,ali su na biroima)
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... Ma mi ko mi.. opet ćemo saditi baštice i mijenjati se za robu, carovati će trampa i laganini...

Biće gusto naredne godine... samo da mi je dočekati da se umanji broj od 63 000 uposlenih u državnoj administraciji svih nivoa, oni stvaraju lažnu statističku sliku o stanju u ovoj zemlji....
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uvjek dobar gost wrote:... Ma mi ko mi.. opet ćemo saditi baštice i mijenjati se za robu, carovati će trampa i laganini...

Biće gusto naredne godine... samo da mi je dočekati da se umanji broj od 63 000 uposlenih u državnoj administraciji svih nivoa, oni stvaraju lažnu statističku sliku o stanju u ovoj zemlji....
Ti si iz rudarskog mjesta i znaš kako se zapošljavalo,ko će sad razbiti to.
Kako u rudnicima,tako u predsjedništvima,kantonima itd.
Guli svako zajedničke jasle,a rezultat dolazi.
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#62 Re: jedite jer iduce godine u ovo vrijeme necete

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_veleposlanik wrote:
walkabout wrote:
Tony Burke is the federal Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry.
svakako dobar izvjestaj. medjutim, meni nije potreban Tony Burke da bih to primjetio. pogledajte npr cinjenicu da Bill Gates u suradnji sa Rockefeller Fondacijom i glavnom svjetskom (americkom) agrarnom industrijom, prave gigantski silo na ledenim ostrvima Norveske (Svaalbard, cini mi se), gdje ce trajno ocuvati preko 3 miliona razlicitih prirodnih sjemenki iz svih krajeva svijeta...

znam i nesto vise o ovom, ali prepustam zainteresirane da sami istraze...

@_veleposlanik, hvala na informaciji.
Za ostale vise na: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... a&aid=7529

Cini mi se da je i Alex Jones pricao nesto o ovome?
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#63 Re: jedite jer iduce godine u ovo vrijeme necete

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mi se ufatimo pojmova kao recesija....ko da smo drzava sa ultra jakim bnp,
mi smo u curku svakako,sve i da nije bilo ovih ciklicnih udara na zapadne ekonomije,mi bi bili donji.


sad hocemol biti samo donji il donji ispod donjeg,to je pitanje
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zanimljiva procjena (ekonomskih) snaga na (globalnom) terenu... :roll:
G-2, G-7, G-8, a G-20 nije ni pomenuta... :oops:

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recesija se vec osjeca na lokalnom americkom sistemu :!:
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Ja bih da kreenemo u novi rat,ali protiv vlade,ali rat u pravom smislu te rijeci.............meni malo fali da puknem vise (sa nekim od guzonja)
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nostalgicar wrote:Ja bih da kreenemo u novi rat,ali protiv vlade,ali rat u pravom smislu te rijeci.............meni malo fali da puknem vise (sa nekim od guzonja)
Neka, nemoj jos, cekaj dok šuma ozeleni :D
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