Izraelsko Palestinski odnosi

[sumirprimus]

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Pa realno jeste jer su razotkrili mnoge fanatike na proizraelskoj strani.

Što je najgore, ne rade ništa drugačije od ovih ispod koji ordiniraju godinama bez ikakvih problema

https://twitter.com/StopAntisemites

Sreca pa nema fanatika na kontra strani. Da bar vrate otete zene i djecu

[Benjo34]

Isto se moze reci i za djecu otetu od strane Izraela.

[smijesni_ste]

Sreca pa nema fanatika na kontra strani. Da bar vrate otete zene i djecu

Mislim na 'fanatike' među običnim ljudima koji podržavaju jednu ili drugu stranu, a kojim se bave ova dva twitter naloga...

[sumirprimus]

Jednacina je jednostsvna ako si srbin i hrvat podrzavas izrael, sto implicira ako si bosnjak palestince. nigdje drzavnog interesa

[konektovan]

Jednacina je jednostavna,...ko podrzava izrael, tj. njegovo ubijanje hiljada neduzne djece i zena, je fasista i necovjek.

[sumirprimus]

Jednacina je jednostavna,...ko podrzava izrael, tj. njegovo ubijanje hiljada neduzne djece i zena, je fasista i necovjek.

Ja podrzavam izrael, i uvijek protiv hamas terorista, neki problem?

Posto niko nece od empaticara ja cu

[konektovan]

Jednacina je jednostavna,...ko podrzava izrael, tj. njegovo ubijanje hiljada neduzne djece i zena, je fasista i necovjek.

Ja podrzavam izrael, i uvijek protiv hamas terorista, neki problem?

Posto niko nece od empaticara ja cu

E sad samo reci,..jesu li djeca i zene, 26 000 ubijenih hamasovi teroristi, ubijeni u redovima za hranu, vodu, u bolnicama...da li su to sve hamas teroristi??
Ja se ne sjecam da je na ovoj temi iko ista rekao protiv otetih nevinih izraelaca, i ubijanja i da je neko to opravdao...ovdje je rijec o brutalnosti izraelske politike, vojske, koji Palestince dozivljavaju kao zivotinje, parazite, korovom koji treba istrijebiti. I nije ovo od jucer kao sto vi to zelite prikazati, ovo traje mnogo duze...

[sumirprimus]

Nije niko nista rekao ni u korist!
Dakako katastrofa je to sto se desava, i naravno svak normalan bi osudio ubijanje ciivila, djece pogotvu i palestinaca i izraelaca. Ali to svskako nije poenta tvoga posta.

[Benjo34]

Ako je drzavni interes podrzavati, sutiti ili ne govoriti o stradanju neduznih, ma kojeg naroda i vjere bili, onda nek se sutra odmah ta drzava raspadne. Drzava koja zatvara oci na zlocin zbog nekog potencijalnog viseg cilja, ne treba postojati. Sutnja na zlo, I ignorisanje moze vodit samo ka vecem zlu.

[skupljac_zeljeza]

[Bloo]

Mogla bi vam tema skoncati ko ona druga.

[Bloo]

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Prepametni, ne izmisljaj

https://time.com/6548068/palestinian-ch ... -arrested/

https://defenceforchildren.org/hrc53-si ... i-prisons/

Nije sramota ne znati, ali je sramota biti bezobrazan u svojoj gluposti kao sto si ti.

Israeli military detains and prosecutes between 500 and 700 Palestinian children each year

I ono prica o gluposti ..cini mi se da ti ja jednom savjetovah da ucis engleski

Procesuiraj i zatvori - tekst iz linkovoa ali to cemo ignorisati?

The most severe example is the case of Ahmad Manasra, who was 13 when he was arrested in connection to the stabbing of two Israeli citizens in occupied East Jerusalem in 2015. Israeli courts found that Manasra did not participate in the stabbings, according to Amnesty International, but he has since been serving a nine-and-a-half-year sentence for attempted murder. Ahmad’s cousin Hassan, 15, was shot dead at the scene.

At the time of his arrest, Manasra was hit by a car and bleeding from injuries when officers interrogated him without parents or lawyers present. Videos of Manasra’s distressing interrogation have received viral attention since November’s prisoner exchange began, with many calling for him to be among those released.

Manasra has since developed schizophrenia and mental health issues, as well as diminishing eyesight as a result of being kept in a small solitary confinement cell for 23 hours a day. While DCIP’s Parker says Manasra is an extreme case, he maintains that the mistreatment of children in custody is prevalent and well-documented.

Another concern is the military court’s disproportionately high conviction rate of over 99%, which Shrourou attributes to “coercively obtained” confessions during interrogation. Only after the interrogation—without parent, legal counsel, or official audio-visual recordings—is a child granted access to a lawyer through private means or charities such as DCIP.

“All the kids plead guilty because it's the fastest way to get them out of that custodial detention setting. It's not a court that's interested in justice,” says Parker. “If they do challenge a charge, they could essentially be held indefinitely to the end of legal proceedings.”

Parker says that the prison service can deny child prisoners access to a phone and visitation at will.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/ ... s-hearing/

Ahmad’s 15-year-old cousin, Hassan, was shot dead at the scene of the stabbings in 2015, and Ahmad sustained serious head injuries when he was hit by a car. As he lay bleeding on the ground, large crowds gathered to jeer and shout abuse at him. Footage of Ahmad Manasra’s interrogation showed three Israeli officers shouting threats and insults at him, as he sat sobbing with a bandage around his head.

Ahmad Manasra has endured several periods of prolonged solitary confinement, in violation of international law. On 24 October 2021, he was diagnosed by an independent Israeli clinical psychologist with serious psychiatric conditions, which the medical report said had developed since his detention.

Ahmad Manasra’s appeal for an early release on medical grounds was rejected by the Beersheba District Court in the summer of 2022.

[Bloo]

Jebga nije lijepo gajdat vojnike kamenjem i petadrama u ratnoj zoni. A tek roditljei te djece

Nije lijepo.
Nije lijepo ni prebijati djecu u zatvorima.
Dijete tebe kamenom, odrasli vojniCI ga onda fino malo namlate i uhapse i u skladu sa drakonskim zakonima smjeste u zatvor i dodatno prevaspitavaju.

Predlazem da se isto praktikuje i u Bosni. Mene neko dijete pogodi kamenom, ja ubijem boga u njemu. Lopta mi upadne u bascu? Jedan lijepi udarac sakom u glavu i stomak ce ga nauciti pameti. Dodes mi u goste i dijete slomi nesto? Polomim mu prste...A roditelji mi ne mogu nista.
A tek petarde za novu godinu..jedva cekam.

[eltroxin]

Jebga nije lijepo gajdat vojnike kamenjem i petadrama u ratnoj zoni. A tek roditljei te djece

Nije lijepo.
Nije lijepo ni prebijati djecu u zatvorima.
Dijete tebe kamenom, odrasli vojniCI ga onda fino malo namlate i uhapse i u skladu sa drakonskim zakonima smjeste u zatvor i dodatno prevaspitavaju.

Predlazem da se isto praktikuje i u Bosni. Mene neko dijete pogodi kamenom, ja ubijem boga u njemu. Lopta mi upadne u bascu? Jedan lijepi udarac sakom u glavu i stomak ce ga nauciti pameti. Dodes mi u goste i dijete slomi nesto? Polomim mu prste...A roditelji mi ne mogu nista.
A tek petarde za novu godinu..jedva cekam.

Kada budes prevaspitavala dijecu, nemoj zaboraviti ni roditelje i familiju. Finu sjedni u bager pa im srusi kucu, preori vocnjak i zatrpaj bunar.
Kolektivno kaznjavanje je, tako kazu u Izraelu, najdjelotvornije.

[TAFKAP]

[escobar__]

Jebga nije lijepo gajdat vojnike kamenjem i petadrama u ratnoj zoni. A tek roditljei te djece

Nije lijepo.
Nije lijepo ni prebijati djecu u zatvorima.
Dijete tebe kamenom, odrasli vojniCI ga onda fino malo namlate i uhapse i u skladu sa drakonskim zakonima smjeste u zatvor i dodatno prevaspitavaju.

Predlazem da se isto praktikuje i u Bosni. Mene neko dijete pogodi kamenom, ja ubijem boga u njemu. Lopta mi upadne u bascu? Jedan lijepi udarac sakom u glavu i stomak ce ga nauciti pameti. Dodes mi u goste i dijete slomi nesto? Polomim mu prste...A roditelji mi ne mogu nista.
A tek petarde za novu godinu..jedva cekam.

Kada budes prevaspitavala dijecu, nemoj zaboraviti ni roditelje i familiju. Finu sjedni u bager pa im srusi kucu, preori vocnjak i zatrpaj bunar.
Kolektivno kaznjavanje je, tako kazu u Izraelu, najdjelotvornije.

Još bolje - uzmi im kuću, a njih istjeraj u ćošak dvorišta kojeg ćeš ogradit bodljikavom žicom. Povremeno u taj ćošak bacaj kamenje i tamo svrati tek toliko da vide ko je tu gazda (i usput im priušti batine).

Komšijama okolo kaži kako su zločesti i kako su zapravo oni krivi što su u tom stanju jer je njihov malac nešto slomio u tvom dnevnom boravku.

[Benjo34]

Eh sad ste ih nasli..vi zaboravili da je sve to hamas..

A I ovi izvori sto ja postavljam, sve to hamas, cak I kad je UN izvor, opet hamas..

[General War]

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https://time.com/6548068/palestinian-ch ... -arrested/

https://defenceforchildren.org/hrc53-si ... i-prisons/

Nije sramota ne znati, ali je sramota biti bezobrazan u svojoj gluposti kao sto si ti.

Israeli military detains and prosecutes between 500 and 700 Palestinian children each year

I ono prica o gluposti ..cini mi se da ti ja jednom savjetovah da ucis engleski

Procesuiraj i zatvori - tekst iz linkovoa ali to cemo ignorisati?

The most severe example is the case of Ahmad Manasra, who was 13 when he was arrested in connection to the stabbing of two Israeli citizens in occupied East Jerusalem in 2015. Israeli courts found that Manasra did not participate in the stabbings, according to Amnesty International, but he has since been serving a nine-and-a-half-year sentence for attempted murder. Ahmad’s cousin Hassan, 15, was shot dead at the scene.

At the time of his arrest, Manasra was hit by a car and bleeding from injuries when officers interrogated him without parents or lawyers present. Videos of Manasra’s distressing interrogation have received viral attention since November’s prisoner exchange began, with many calling for him to be among those released.

Manasra has since developed schizophrenia and mental health issues, as well as diminishing eyesight as a result of being kept in a small solitary confinement cell for 23 hours a day. While DCIP’s Parker says Manasra is an extreme case, he maintains that the mistreatment of children in custody is prevalent and well-documented.

Another concern is the military court’s disproportionately high conviction rate of over 99%, which Shrourou attributes to “coercively obtained” confessions during interrogation. Only after the interrogation—without parent, legal counsel, or official audio-visual recordings—is a child granted access to a lawyer through private means or charities such as DCIP.

“All the kids plead guilty because it's the fastest way to get them out of that custodial detention setting. It's not a court that's interested in justice,” says Parker. “If they do challenge a charge, they could essentially be held indefinitely to the end of legal proceedings.”

Parker says that the prison service can deny child prisoners access to a phone and visitation at will.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/ ... s-hearing/

Ahmad’s 15-year-old cousin, Hassan, was shot dead at the scene of the stabbings in 2015, and Ahmad sustained serious head injuries when he was hit by a car. As he lay bleeding on the ground, large crowds gathered to jeer and shout abuse at him. Footage of Ahmad Manasra’s interrogation showed three Israeli officers shouting threats and insults at him, as he sat sobbing with a bandage around his head.

Ahmad Manasra has endured several periods of prolonged solitary confinement, in violation of international law. On 24 October 2021, he was diagnosed by an independent Israeli clinical psychologist with serious psychiatric conditions, which the medical report said had developed since his detention.

Ahmad Manasra’s appeal for an early release on medical grounds was rejected by the Beersheba District Court in the summer of 2022.

Stvar je da onal lik tvrdi da ih samo sutnu medju sipke i zaborave za njih...sto nije tacno.

[General War]

Jebga nije lijepo gajdat vojnike kamenjem i petadrama u ratnoj zoni. A tek roditljei te djece

Nije lijepo.
Nije lijepo ni prebijati djecu u zatvorima.
Dijete tebe kamenom, odrasli vojniCI ga onda fino malo namlate i uhapse i u skladu sa drakonskim zakonima smjeste u zatvor i dodatno prevaspitavaju.

Predlazem da se isto praktikuje i u Bosni. Mene neko dijete pogodi kamenom, ja ubijem boga u njemu. Lopta mi upadne u bascu? Jedan lijepi udarac sakom u glavu i stomak ce ga nauciti pameti. Dodes mi u goste i dijete slomi nesto? Polomim mu prste...A roditelji mi ne mogu nista.
A tek petarde za novu godinu..jedva cekam.

Djeci nije mjesto u zatvoru, jos manje na cesti biti koristena u politicke ciljeve..vec u skoli...u djelu gdje se arapski palestinci pitaju, je to vec odavno pomjesano, ne treba se praviti slijep.

[Bloo]

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I ono prica o gluposti ..cini mi se da ti ja jednom savjetovah da ucis engleski

Procesuiraj i zatvori - tekst iz linkovoa ali to cemo ignorisati?

The most severe example is the case of Ahmad Manasra, who was 13 when he was arrested in connection to the stabbing of two Israeli citizens in occupied East Jerusalem in 2015. Israeli courts found that Manasra did not participate in the stabbings, according to Amnesty International, but he has since been serving a nine-and-a-half-year sentence for attempted murder. Ahmad’s cousin Hassan, 15, was shot dead at the scene.

At the time of his arrest, Manasra was hit by a car and bleeding from injuries when officers interrogated him without parents or lawyers present. Videos of Manasra’s distressing interrogation have received viral attention since November’s prisoner exchange began, with many calling for him to be among those released.

Manasra has since developed schizophrenia and mental health issues, as well as diminishing eyesight as a result of being kept in a small solitary confinement cell for 23 hours a day. While DCIP’s Parker says Manasra is an extreme case, he maintains that the mistreatment of children in custody is prevalent and well-documented.

Another concern is the military court’s disproportionately high conviction rate of over 99%, which Shrourou attributes to “coercively obtained” confessions during interrogation. Only after the interrogation—without parent, legal counsel, or official audio-visual recordings—is a child granted access to a lawyer through private means or charities such as DCIP.

“All the kids plead guilty because it's the fastest way to get them out of that custodial detention setting. It's not a court that's interested in justice,” says Parker. “If they do challenge a charge, they could essentially be held indefinitely to the end of legal proceedings.”

Parker says that the prison service can deny child prisoners access to a phone and visitation at will.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/ ... s-hearing/

Ahmad’s 15-year-old cousin, Hassan, was shot dead at the scene of the stabbings in 2015, and Ahmad sustained serious head injuries when he was hit by a car. As he lay bleeding on the ground, large crowds gathered to jeer and shout abuse at him. Footage of Ahmad Manasra’s interrogation showed three Israeli officers shouting threats and insults at him, as he sat sobbing with a bandage around his head.

Ahmad Manasra has endured several periods of prolonged solitary confinement, in violation of international law. On 24 October 2021, he was diagnosed by an independent Israeli clinical psychologist with serious psychiatric conditions, which the medical report said had developed since his detention.

Ahmad Manasra’s appeal for an early release on medical grounds was rejected by the Beersheba District Court in the summer of 2022.

Stvar je da onal lik tvrdi da ih samo sutnu medju sipke i zaborave za njih...sto nije tacno.

Ma jok, Ahmada redovno posjecuju nakon procesiranja i presude...to je bitno. A tek sto su zaboravili da ga je IZRAELSKI sud oslobodio krivice.
Znaci ooptuze te, zatvore, sud te oslobodi, zaborave te pustiti...razvijes psihicke probleme zbog tretmana, opet te ne zele pustiti i tako...nevin u zatvoru.
To je kada policija/vojska ne postuje vlastiti sud.

[General War]

Jebga nije lijepo gajdat vojnike kamenjem i petadrama u ratnoj zoni. A tek roditljei te djece

Nije lijepo.
Nije lijepo ni prebijati djecu u zatvorima.
Dijete tebe kamenom, odrasli vojniCI ga onda fino malo namlate i uhapse i u skladu sa drakonskim zakonima smjeste u zatvor i dodatno prevaspitavaju.

Predlazem da se isto praktikuje i u Bosni. Mene neko dijete pogodi kamenom, ja ubijem boga u njemu. Lopta mi upadne u bascu? Jedan lijepi udarac sakom u glavu i stomak ce ga nauciti pameti. Dodes mi u goste i dijete slomi nesto? Polomim mu prste...A roditelji mi ne mogu nista.
A tek petarde za novu godinu..jedva cekam.

Kada budes prevaspitavala dijecu, nemoj zaboraviti ni roditelje i familiju. Finu sjedni u bager pa im srusi kucu, preori vocnjak i zatrpaj bunar.
Kolektivno kaznjavanje je, tako kazu u Izraelu, najdjelotvornije.

...to kad roditelji i familija prestanu izlaziti na cestu i slaviti budalu koja se raznjela u autobusu, kaficu, vjerskom objektu punih civila...meni je potpuno nevjerovatno imati ovakvu pricu u 2/3 porusenoj Bosni, vise kao da se iz svajcarske javljate.

[Bloo]

Djeci nije mjesto u zatvoru, jos manje na cesti biti koristena u politicke ciljeve..vec u skoli...u djelu gdje se arapski palestinci pitaju, je to vec odavno pomjesano, ne treba se praviti slijep.

Da, u skolama koje onda targetiras kao centar HAMASA i bombardujes i raidaš. Al dobra ti ideja...umjesto da ganjas jednog po jednog mladeg maloljetnika po ulicama, skupi ih sve u skolu i pobij odjednom.
Genijalan plan!

[Ironmen]

Djeci nije mjesto u zatvoru, jos manje na cesti biti koristena u politicke ciljeve..vec u skoli...u djelu gdje se arapski palestinci pitaju, je to vec odavno pomjesano, ne treba se praviti slijep.

Da, u skolama koje onda targetiras kao centar HAMASA i bombardujes i raidaš. Al dobra ti ideja...umjesto da ganjas jednog po jednog mladeg maloljetnika po ulicama, skupi ih sve u skolu i pobij odjednom.
Genijalan plan!

Pravi nacisticki plan.

[General War]

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Procesuiraj i zatvori - tekst iz linkovoa ali to cemo ignorisati?

The most severe example is the case of Ahmad Manasra, who was 13 when he was arrested in connection to the stabbing of two Israeli citizens in occupied East Jerusalem in 2015. Israeli courts found that Manasra did not participate in the stabbings, according to Amnesty International, but he has since been serving a nine-and-a-half-year sentence for attempted murder. Ahmad’s cousin Hassan, 15, was shot dead at the scene.

At the time of his arrest, Manasra was hit by a car and bleeding from injuries when officers interrogated him without parents or lawyers present. Videos of Manasra’s distressing interrogation have received viral attention since November’s prisoner exchange began, with many calling for him to be among those released.

Manasra has since developed schizophrenia and mental health issues, as well as diminishing eyesight as a result of being kept in a small solitary confinement cell for 23 hours a day. While DCIP’s Parker says Manasra is an extreme case, he maintains that the mistreatment of children in custody is prevalent and well-documented.

Another concern is the military court’s disproportionately high conviction rate of over 99%, which Shrourou attributes to “coercively obtained” confessions during interrogation. Only after the interrogation—without parent, legal counsel, or official audio-visual recordings—is a child granted access to a lawyer through private means or charities such as DCIP.

“All the kids plead guilty because it's the fastest way to get them out of that custodial detention setting. It's not a court that's interested in justice,” says Parker. “If they do challenge a charge, they could essentially be held indefinitely to the end of legal proceedings.”

Parker says that the prison service can deny child prisoners access to a phone and visitation at will.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/ ... s-hearing/

Ahmad’s 15-year-old cousin, Hassan, was shot dead at the scene of the stabbings in 2015, and Ahmad sustained serious head injuries when he was hit by a car. As he lay bleeding on the ground, large crowds gathered to jeer and shout abuse at him. Footage of Ahmad Manasra’s interrogation showed three Israeli officers shouting threats and insults at him, as he sat sobbing with a bandage around his head.

Ahmad Manasra has endured several periods of prolonged solitary confinement, in violation of international law. On 24 October 2021, he was diagnosed by an independent Israeli clinical psychologist with serious psychiatric conditions, which the medical report said had developed since his detention.

Ahmad Manasra’s appeal for an early release on medical grounds was rejected by the Beersheba District Court in the summer of 2022.

Stvar je da onal lik tvrdi da ih samo sutnu medju sipke i zaborave za njih...sto nije tacno.

Ma jok, Ahmada redovno posjecuju nakon procesiranja i presude...to je bitno. A tek sto su zaboravili da ga je IZRAELSKI sud oslobodio krivice.
Znaci ooptuze te, zatvore, sud te oslobodi, zaborave te pustiti...razvijes psihicke probleme zbog tretmana, opet te ne zele pustiti i tako...nevin u zatvoru.
To je kada policija/vojska ne postuje vlastiti sud.

...zamisli sad kako je izraelcima sto ih drze po tunelima, ne znam sta kaze amnesty international za njih... mada nije to bila poenta.

[General War]

Djeci nije mjesto u zatvoru, jos manje na cesti biti koristena u politicke ciljeve..vec u skoli...u djelu gdje se arapski palestinci pitaju, je to vec odavno pomjesano, ne treba se praviti slijep.

Da, u skolama koje onda targetiras kao centar HAMASA i bombardujes i raidaš. Al dobra ti ideja...umjesto da ganjas jednog po jednog mladeg maloljetnika po ulicama, skupi ih sve u skolu i pobij odjednom.
Genijalan plan!

...jesil ti isla u skolu, kad je izbio rat kod nas, ovdje u tuzli prvo nije je ni bilo a onda se izmjestala djeca na sigurno...to je kad neko ima zrno pameti i brine za civile, a ovi bi ratovali ali izgleda samo u plaestini postoji municija koja striktno gadja teroriste i obilazi oko zgrada...tako da djeca idu neometano u skolu, bolnice rade..itd