IRAN

[asurbanipal]

Cim su dosli docekani su na noz.

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U moru litanije, izdvojio sam samo ovu tvoju tvrdnju, tačnije laž.

Sa njom se ne bi složili ni najtvrdokorniji cionisti.

[sadie_forever]

Amerika je demokratija mozes se slagst s politikom ili ne al zasluzuju postovanje no izrael kao cionisticki rezim nikada(jevreja ima jako dobrih i ne vezimo izrael zs jevreje)

Sramota da je tako veliki narod sprcen na 20 000 km/2, sto je duplo manje nego BiH. Sramota da zatucana balkanska plamena, slavenski narodi, zauzimaju skoro pola planete, a jevrejski narod naguran u malu pustinju. Arapi imaju desetine ogromnih drzava. Drugi narodi isto.

Jevreja na mini prostoru ima 8 000 000. Ja bih volio, da postoji neka visa sila, da se Bosnjaci, Srbi i Hrvati premjeste u Palestinu a Zidovi u BiH. Oni bu u Posavini London napravili. Jahorina i Bjelasnica bi bolje od Aspena i Garmisa. Od Hrvatske bi kupili dio mora i napravili najvecu luku u Evropi. BiH bi bila ekonomski El Dorado.

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Zidovima je namijenjena sudbina Roma koji su poznati po prosenju i skupljanju sekundarnih sirovina, dok su Zidovi poznati kao najobrazovaniji i najutjecajniji narod na svijetu, ako bi racunali po brojnosti. Pravo je cudo kako su u tako nepovoljnim okolnostima tako uspjesni.

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Zidovi su kroz historiju zrtve. Svi su ih mrzili i gazili. Biblija i Kur'an, dvije najpoznatije bajke za odrasle, su zigosale jevrejski narod i nacrtale im mete na celu. Mrzili ih Spanci, Francuzi i Britanci, Nijemci ih pokusali totalni unistiti. Mrzili ih spasioci, Rusi i Amerikanci. Bas citam knjigu Normana Majlera, rat Amerike i Japana. U americkoj vojsci su Zidovi trpjeli veliki prezir od strane prosjecnih Amerikanaca. Dostojevski je ima anti-jevrejske izjave itd.

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Onda ih nesretne poslase u bliskoisticni kotao, na mrvicu usrane pustinje. Zasto im Svabe nisu dale komad Njemacke nakon sto su ih masakrirali? To bi bilo posteno. Zasto su ih poslali u jebenu pustinju? Cim su dosli docekani su na noz.

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I sada, u takvim oklnostima, u borbi za zivot ili smrt, i oni se povampirise. Prvi put u historiji oni su agresor i zlocinac. Zalosna sudbina velikog naroda.

Jel zajebajes'? pa ko je odgovaran za to ? ako cemo realno,njima je najbolje bilo u islamskim zemljama,a muslimani sad placaju grijeh Evrope..jedino to nije fer

[asurbanipal]

“Iran Must Begin Acting Like A Normal Nation,” Says Totally Normal Nation


The government which runs a globe-spanning empire led by a reality TV host keeps talking about the lack of normality in the nation of Iran.

“What we want all countries to join in,” said State Department Spokesperson Morgan Ortagus in a recent Fox News interview, “is to help us not only to de-escalate any tensions with Iran, but to help us bring Iran to a place where they are ready to stop their terrorist and malign behavior, and where they are ready to discuss with the United States, with Europe, with everyone, about how they can change their behavior to act like a normal nation.”

“We want Iran to simply behave like a normal nation,” Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said in a press statement the other day. “We believe that the sanctions we imposed today further that strategic objective.”

These would be the additional sanctions which have been expanded to include virtually the entire Iranian economy, deliberately targeting Iran’s already sanction-starved populace, with the explicit goal of fomenting a civil war in that nation.

Which is of course a perfectly normal thing to do, from a perfectly normal nation.

This would be the same Iran whose cultural heritage sites were threatened with destruction if it retaliated for the totally normal assassination of its top military official via flying robot. The same Iran whose financial system was just threatened with destruction using the totally normal hegemony of American central banking. Perfectly normal, perfectly healthy.

So what can Iran do to become a “normal nation”? Well, since it’s the United States making this demand, we can safely assume that it’s the model Iran should look to.

In order to become a normal nation, Iran will need to expand its interests from the region and begin toppling noncompliant governments and invading nations all around the world.

In order to become a normal nation, Iran will need to circle the planet with hundreds of Iranian military bases.

In order to become a normal nation, Iran will need to obtain thousands of nuclear weapons, and actually use a couple of them.

In order to become a normal nation, Iran will need to become the most dominant military, economic and cultural force in the world, and then use that dominance to destroy any government, political party, ideology, faction, movement or person who stands in its way.

In order to become a normal nation, Iran will need to arm violent extremist factions all around the world with the goal of eliminating all governments that refuse to bow to its interests.

In order to become a normal nation, Iran will need to become the dominant producer of films, music and TV shows and use this influence to propagandize its power structure’s ideology to every possible cultural sphere.

In order to become a normal nation, Iran will need to begin meddling in scores of democratic elections all around the world and then crying for years at the possibility of any nation returning the favor.

In order to become a normal nation, Iran will need to shore up economic control of the world so that it can crush any sort of disobedience by starving civilians and depriving them of medical care while pretending that it’s a force for peace.

In order to become a normal nation, Iran will need to indefinitely occupy a vast region on the other side of the planet with thousands upon thousands of troops and trillions of dollars in military equipment, to no benefit of a single ordinary Iranian, and against the will of the people who live there.

In order to become a normal nation, Iran will need to create a presidency led by a reality TV star oligarch who is only supported because Iran’s populace is so disgusted with the status quo of their government.

I am kidding, of course. The US government does not want Iran to become like the US. The US government does not want any nation to become like the US. The US likes its abnormality among nations just the way it is, thank you very much. The US is the exception to all its own rules. That’s how American exceptionalism works. This is one of those “do as I say, not as I do” situations.

The US doesn’t want Iran to be like America. The US wants Iran to be like the other nations which have allowed themselves to be absorbed into the blob of the US-centralized empire.

The US would be perfectly happy for Iran to begin acting like Saudi Arabia: arming terrorist factions, beheading heretics, committing war crimes and deliberately creating humanitarian disasters for geostrategic convenience, yet aligning fully with US military, financial, and resource control agendas.

The US would be perfectly happy for Iran to begin acting like Israel: a nuclear-armed military outpost which constantly bombs adjacent nations, interferes in the US and other nations’ politics to shore up support, works toward the slow extermination of its indigenous population and fires upon protesters with live ammunition.

The US would be perfectly happy for Iran to begin acting like Canada, the UK, Australia, New Zealand or the EU: obedient military/intelligence assets who function as extra American states when it comes to foreign policy and international affairs.

That is what the US means by acting “normal”. Not acting moral. Not acting healthy. Certainly not acting like the US. It means acting obedient, compliant, and enslaved.

Which is precisely what Iran is resisting.



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[Challenger_]

“Iran Must Begin Acting Like A Normal Nation,” Says Totally Normal Nation


The government which runs a globe-spanning empire led by a reality TV host keeps talking about the lack of normality in the nation of Iran.

“What we want all countries to join in,” said State Department Spokesperson Morgan Ortagus in a recent Fox News interview, “is to help us not only to de-escalate any tensions with Iran, but to help us bring Iran to a place where they are ready to stop their terrorist and malign behavior, and where they are ready to discuss with the United States, with Europe, with everyone, about how they can change their behavior to act like a normal nation.”

“We want Iran to simply behave like a normal nation,” Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said in a press statement the other day. “We believe that the sanctions we imposed today further that strategic objective.”

These would be the additional sanctions which have been expanded to include virtually the entire Iranian economy, deliberately targeting Iran’s already sanction-starved populace, with the explicit goal of fomenting a civil war in that nation.

Which is of course a perfectly normal thing to do, from a perfectly normal nation.

This would be the same Iran whose cultural heritage sites were threatened with destruction if it retaliated for the totally normal assassination of its top military official via flying robot. The same Iran whose financial system was just threatened with destruction using the totally normal hegemony of American central banking. Perfectly normal, perfectly healthy.

So what can Iran do to become a “normal nation”? Well, since it’s the United States making this demand, we can safely assume that it’s the model Iran should look to.

In order to become a normal nation, Iran will need to expand its interests from the region and begin toppling noncompliant governments and invading nations all around the world.

In order to become a normal nation, Iran will need to circle the planet with hundreds of Iranian military bases.

In order to become a normal nation, Iran will need to obtain thousands of nuclear weapons, and actually use a couple of them.

In order to become a normal nation, Iran will need to become the most dominant military, economic and cultural force in the world, and then use that dominance to destroy any government, political party, ideology, faction, movement or person who stands in its way.

In order to become a normal nation, Iran will need to arm violent extremist factions all around the world with the goal of eliminating all governments that refuse to bow to its interests.

In order to become a normal nation, Iran will need to become the dominant producer of films, music and TV shows and use this influence to propagandize its power structure’s ideology to every possible cultural sphere.

In order to become a normal nation, Iran will need to begin meddling in scores of democratic elections all around the world and then crying for years at the possibility of any nation returning the favor.

In order to become a normal nation, Iran will need to shore up economic control of the world so that it can crush any sort of disobedience by starving civilians and depriving them of medical care while pretending that it’s a force for peace.

In order to become a normal nation, Iran will need to indefinitely occupy a vast region on the other side of the planet with thousands upon thousands of troops and trillions of dollars in military equipment, to no benefit of a single ordinary Iranian, and against the will of the people who live there.

In order to become a normal nation, Iran will need to create a presidency led by a reality TV star oligarch who is only supported because Iran’s populace is so disgusted with the status quo of their government.

I am kidding, of course. The US government does not want Iran to become like the US. The US government does not want any nation to become like the US. The US likes its abnormality among nations just the way it is, thank you very much. The US is the exception to all its own rules. That’s how American exceptionalism works. This is one of those “do as I say, not as I do” situations.

The US doesn’t want Iran to be like America. The US wants Iran to be like the other nations which have allowed themselves to be absorbed into the blob of the US-centralized empire.

The US would be perfectly happy for Iran to begin acting like Saudi Arabia: arming terrorist factions, beheading heretics, committing war crimes and deliberately creating humanitarian disasters for geostrategic convenience, yet aligning fully with US military, financial, and resource control agendas.

The US would be perfectly happy for Iran to begin acting like Israel: a nuclear-armed military outpost which constantly bombs adjacent nations, interferes in the US and other nations’ politics to shore up support, works toward the slow extermination of its indigenous population and fires upon protesters with live ammunition.

The US would be perfectly happy for Iran to begin acting like Canada, the UK, Australia, New Zealand or the EU: obedient military/intelligence assets who function as extra American states when it comes to foreign policy and international affairs.

That is what the US means by acting “normal”. Not acting moral. Not acting healthy. Certainly not acting like the US. It means acting obedient, compliant, and enslaved.

Which is precisely what Iran is resisting.



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Šta zna doktor đuturum. USA su lova, Izrael su koke. Ba.

[Dexx1]

Ti ne možeš fulati, samo budi na suprotnoj strani vehabističke ideologije.

Oni najviše vređaju našu inteligenciju, govore za sebe da ne postoje
U zadnje vrijeme sve više i više otkrivaju svoje lice i zauzimaju stranu SAD i Izraela, do te mjere da svoja opredjeljenja više i ne kriju. U isto vrijeme govore da su zapravo Iranci najveći saveznici SAD što je druga uvreda za inteligenciju. Jes, savezniku ćeš uvoditi sankcije 40 godina, proglasiti ga glavnim neprijateljem većim i od Al Kaide i ubiti im drugog najmoćnijeg čovjeka u državi

ne mora biti ni greska - Ukrajinski avion

CIA ima kontrolu u Ukrajini - lahko su mogli nabaciti

transponder koji ce lazno u momentu odaslati signal da je borbeni avion ili drone.

samo jedna od mogucnosti.

Sve je moguće. Nakon atentata na Sulejmanija nacija se ujedinila, država se unifikovala, razlike su skoro nestale. Pokazali su da smiju baciti rakete na američke baze, hirurški precizno pogodili baze sa hiljadu km udaljenosti, zastrašili sve neprijatelje oko sebe.
Pad aviona je nekako sve to pokvario i ostavio gorak ukus u ustima - odmah krenulo nezadovoljstvo, protesti, neredi, kvislinzi koriste trenutak. Kome to ide u prilog? - onima koji žele "smjenu režima", dakle, slažemo se, sve je moguće..

[General War]

[jeza u ledja]

ne znam sta ti nije jasno - poprilicno jednostavno sam objasnio

avion americki - firma Ukrajinska - znaci CIA ima i znanje i pristup

sta ti treba elaborirati?

transponder valjda znas sta je?

Jel se zajebavas ili sta?

[jeza u ledja]

Sve je moguće. Nakon atentata na Sulejmanija nacija se ujedinila, država se unifikovala, razlike su skoro nestale. Pokazali su da smiju baciti rakete na američke baze, hirurški precizno pogodili baze sa hiljadu km udaljenosti, zastrašili sve neprijatelje oko sebe.
Pad aviona je nekako sve to pokvario i ostavio gorak ukus u ustima - odmah krenulo nezadovoljstvo, protesti, neredi, kvislinzi koriste trenutak. Kome to ide u prilog? - onima koji žele "smjenu režima", dakle, slažemo se, sve je moguće..

Jedna od mogucnosti je i da su ga vanzemaljci srusili. Sve je moguce.

[zilog]

ne mora biti ni greska - Ukrajinski avion

CIA ima kontrolu u Ukrajini - lahko su mogli nabaciti

transponder koji ce lazno u momentu odaslati signal da je borbeni avion ili drone.

samo jedna od mogucnosti.

Dakle placem...

Haj' nam malo elaboriraj ovo oko transpondera koji se radarima predstavljaju kao borbeni avioni, ili dronovi...

ne znam sta ti nije jasno - poprilicno jednostavno sam objasnio

avion americki - firma Ukrajinska - znaci CIA ima i znanje i pristup

sta ti treba elaborirati?

transponder valjda znas sta je?

Transponder (mada ti vise mislis na IFF) nema NIKAKAV nacin, ma sta CIA radila, da kaze (odgovori) "Ja sam borbeni avion/dron". Jedino sto moze i nista drugo, je dati pogresan/nedodjeljen Squawk, ili biti ugasen. Da se to desilo Iranci bi sigurno rekli tako, ali nisu mogli.

Nisu mogli, a to dobro znamo, jer je cijelo vrijeme leta bio upaljen jos vazniji uredjaj od ATCRBS transpondera, a to je ADS-B (kod novijih aviona to moze biti isti uredjaj), kojim avion, svake sekunde, daje svoju identifikaciju, poziciju, visinu i brzinu. Za to nam ne trebaju Iranci, to sami znamo.

[muhafuca]

ne znam sta ti nije jasno - poprilicno jednostavno sam objasnio

avion americki - firma Ukrajinska - znaci CIA ima i znanje i pristup

sta ti treba elaborirati?

transponder valjda znas sta je?

Jel se zajebavas ili sta?

najozbiljnije - jel imas sta konkretno reci ili ?

[muhafuca]

Transponder (mada ti vise mislis na IFF) nema NIKAKAV nacin, ma sta CIA radila, da kaze (odgovori) "Ja sam borbeni avion/dron". Jedino sto moze i nista drugo, je dati pogresan/nedodjeljen Squawk, ili biti ugasen. Da se to desilo Iranci bi sigurno rekli tako, ali nisu mogli.

jah nema nikakav nacin - sva tehnologija se moze tamperovati, to je valjda svima do sada jasno.

ne znam sta ocekujes da CIA kaze "nisu transporderi pozdani imamo mi nacin da ih kontrolisemo" ?

Nisu mogli, a to dobro znamo, jer je cijelo vrijeme leta bio upaljen jos vazniji uredjaj od ATCRBS transpondera, a to je ADS-B (kod novijih aviona to moze biti isti uredjaj), kojim avion, svake sekunde, daje svoju identifikaciju, poziciju, visinu i brzinu. Za to nam ne trebaju Iranci, to sami znamo.

? kako znas? da pogodim - pratis na flight radar jel?

[un1ted]

Američki Kongres otkrio u rezoluciji: Sulejmani pripremao terorističke napade u BiH

[Haris.ba]

Jesu nam uhapsili Salika?

[Herr Flick]

[un1ted]

Dok ne bude pravne drzave koja ce hapsiti "urednike" tih portalčića, mogu pišati sa ovakvim tekstovima.

[zigzag]

Američki Kongres otkrio u rezoluciji: Sulejmani pripremao terorističke napade u BiH

Jesu li bar posudili flašicu sa "otrovom" od Colina Powella.

[Kikibombona]

Američki Kongres otkrio u rezoluciji: Sulejmani pripremao terorističke napade u BiH

Nadam se da ce OSA/SIPA koordinisano sa americkim sluzbama ispitati ovu stvar koja nije nimalo bezazlena.

[Haris.ba]

Nadam se da ce OSA/SIPA koordinisano sa americkim sluzbama ispitati ovu stvar koja nije nimalo bezazlena.

A što misliš da već nisu?

[AleksoMKD]

Ama ljudi, sam Iran je priznao da su oborili avion, IRGC general je preuzeo odgovornost.

Nema sumnje. Ja sam odma posumnjao, paralelne strukture u oruzanim snagama i jos gore paralelni RV i PVO pravo cudo je da se ovo ranije nije desilo.

[sumirprimus]

Ama ljudi, sam Iran je priznao da su oborili avion, IRGC general je preuzeo odgovornost.

Nema sumnje. Ja sam odma posumnjao, paralelne strukture u oruzanim snagama i jos gore paralelni RV i PVO pravo cudo je da se ovo ranije nije desilo.

kako mislis paralelni rv pvo?posebno ircg a posebno iranska armija ili?

[lajkujMe]

"prijateljski" Iran htio malo da ubije Bosanaca u srcu BIH i da usput nas obiljezi kao teroristicku zemlju pred ocima svijeta.

Sad naravno mnogo ovih ljubitelja i postovalaca Irana jedva cekaju da pljuju po Americi kako Lazu o Iranu...
Ali ne moze se tu nista i da se jeste desio napad opet bi bila kriva Amerika i CIA...

Svima koji vjeruju radije SAD nego Iranu, od srca hvala sto imate dovoljno pameti da vidite stvarnu sliku.

[AleksoMKD]

kako mislis paralelni rv pvo?posebno ircg a posebno iranska armija ili?

Da, IRGC osim svojih PVO sistema ima jurisne avione, helikoptere, transportere i bespilotne dok armija osim nabrojanih jedina (za sada) ima lovce.

Koriste zajednicke baze no komanda je podeljena ko i u kopnenoj vojsci i mornarici. Na neki nacin osiguranje da se redovna vojska ne okrene protiv vlasti.
Navodno se oficirski kadar regilarnih OS i IRGC pomalo ne podnosi.

Cudo da se ovo nije ranije desilo.

[lajkujMe]

Ili da bolje pojasnim, sistem kao kod Nacista.

Regularna drzavna vojska degradirana.
A partijska milicija dovedena na maksimalnu spremnost a u nju ulaze samo najveci obazavaoci Partije i Furera

[Benjo34]

Svako ko god ima veze sa bilo kakvim stranim, domacim organizacijama koje planiraju bilo kakvu vrstu nasilja u BiH ili vani, treba da ide na doživotnu zatvorsku kaznu, po meni.

Ovo za Bosnu me ne čudi, kad vidimo kako neki bezuslovno podržavaju sve što je izopačeno tamo... ne čudi me uopšte

[muzicar_iz_parka]

Unutar iransko uređenje njihova stvar.
Američko vađenje i optužbe rahmetli Sulje da je planirao napade na ambasade su čista glupost.
Nema nikakve koristi da se napadne ambasada u BiH, Njemačkoj ili bilo gdje drugo. Ako je išta zaštićeno onda su američke ambasade, najveća moguća šteta je eventualno da se ogrebe ograda okolo i to je to. Nisu Iranci toliko ludi da bi rizikovali sukob zbog toga. A imaju i pametnija posla trenutno u svom okruženju, aktivni sukobi još traju. Napad na ambasadu je napad na državu, čak bi takav potez aktivirao članak 5 NATO saveza. Iran nikad nije sam pokretao takve budaliještine.

Kada bi Iran stvarno išao na esklaciju sukoba, napao bi američke baze u njihovom regionu, ako je već samoubilačka misija, onda bi napravili nešto gdje će ozbiljno naštetiti Amerikancima.

Ono šta je smješnije jeste da neki ovdje stvarno vjeruju u tu priču o ambasadama, vjerovatno su vjerovali i u irački WMD.

Onako kao laik mogu zaključiti da Trump nije ni znao ko je Suljo, a njegova likvidacija tražena od jastrebova u američkoj politici, jer su kontali ako maknu glavnog za iranski uticaj van granica, da će se sav sistem srozati i Iran vratiti tamo gdje je bio do prije deceniju.