IMUNITET - Kako se najbolje pripremiti za sezonu

[KraljicaIzJajca]

Ti piješ samo Ortomol ili su i tebi rekli da ne treba ništa sa Ortomolom pa ni ovi prirodni zerzevati ?

Samo ortomol i ne mijesati nista od hemije sa njim. Preporuka ljekara. Uzimam 2x sedmicno u periodima kad haraju bolescine.

Ponekad uzmem Bosnalijek Royal Jelly crveni onaj sto navodno jaca libido on se moze mijesati.

Matična mliječ djeluje na libido i plodnost žena, znači, svi proizvodi na bazi matične mliječi imaju isti efekat.

[JohnnyS]

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23440782/

Evo ti dokaz za vitamin C

Kao prvo rekao si za sve suplemente, a ne samo za vitamin C. Hajde sad isto istrazi za kurkumin, gingseng itd...

Kao drugo nije poenta vitamina c samo da ti smanji šansu za prehladu, ima i drugih benefits

Kao treće to je jedna studija i niti jedna nije dovoljno velika da pokaže prave rezultate, evo druge studije za vitamin c koja kaze da umanjuje broj common colda

https://www.nature.com/articles/1602261

Metaanaliza je viši rang istraživanja nego RCT, tako da je ovaj rad niže vrijednosti nego metaanaliza koja obuhvaća nekoliko RCT-ova.

A što se ostalog tiče, vitamini sprječavaju hipovitaminoze, ali tko god jede raznovrsno, nema šanse dobiti hipovitaminozu bilo kojeg vitamina. Višak vitamina topivih u vodi (b kompleks, c) ćeš izmokriti, ne možeš ih nataložiti viška, niti bi imao koristi od toga, dok vitamine topive u mastima (A, D, E, K) možeš nataložiti viška i to ti onda može samo biti štetno, nikako korisno, npr može ti jetra nastradati.

Što se tiče ostalih suplemenata, samo ih krkajte, ali nema metaanalize koje bi dokazale njihovu učinkovitost, naravno, nije da će škoditi, ali kao što inicijalno rekoh, samo su bacanje para uz raznovrsnu prehranu.

[Naslovnica]

Birilach

[kox]

Kažu da med nikada ne treba uzimati metalnom kašikom, samo drvo ili plastika.
I nikada ga u vruće turati.
Tako da to poštujem.
Ja ga nama najčešće smutim u blenderu sa jogurtom, bananama i bobičastim voćem, najbolje prolazi tako.

Kako meni rekoše ovi drugari koji se bave medom i ostalim pčelinjim proizvodima, natašte ujutro kašičicu ili rastvoreno u mlakom (ne vrelom) čaju.
Ja ga uglavnom spičim odmah ujutro uz propolis.A i ja sam čuo to za metal.

[KraljicaIzJajca]

Kao prvo rekao si za sve suplemente, a ne samo za vitamin C. Hajde sad isto istrazi za kurkumin, gingseng itd...

Kao drugo nije poenta vitamina c samo da ti smanji šansu za prehladu, ima i drugih benefits

Kao treće to je jedna studija i niti jedna nije dovoljno velika da pokaže prave rezultate, evo druge studije za vitamin c koja kaze da umanjuje broj common colda

https://www.nature.com/articles/1602261

Metaanaliza je viši rang istraživanja nego RCT, tako da je ovaj rad niže vrijednosti nego metaanaliza koja obuhvaća nekoliko RCT-ova.

A što se ostalog tiče, vitamini sprječavaju hipovitaminoze, ali tko god jede raznovrsno, nema šanse dobiti hipovitaminozu bilo kojeg vitamina. Višak vitamina topivih u vodi (b kompleks, c) ćeš izmokriti, ne možeš ih nataložiti viška, niti bi imao koristi od toga, dok vitamine topive u mastima (A, D, E, K) možeš nataložiti viška i to ti onda može samo biti štetno, nikako korisno, npr može ti jetra nastradati.

Što se tiče ostalih suplemenata, samo ih krkajte, ali nema metaanalize koje bi dokazale njihovu učinkovitost, naravno, nije da će škoditi, ali kao što inicijalno rekoh, samo su bacanje para uz raznovrsnu prehranu.

Vitamini u tabletama, iste organizam ni ne može absorbirati u potpunosti 50/50, a konzumacija istih svaki dan negativno djeluje na rad jetre. Vitamini se najbolje absorbiraju iz prirodnih izvora hrane.

[Snake Eyes]

Kažu da med nikada ne treba uzimati metalnom kašikom, samo drvo ili plastika.
I nikada ga u vruće turati.
Tako da to poštujem.
Ja ga nama najčešće smutim u blenderu sa jogurtom, bananama i bobičastim voćem, najbolje prolazi tako.

Sreca pa su pera blendera od plastike.

[spinel_]

Kao prvo rekao si za sve suplemente, a ne samo za vitamin C. Hajde sad isto istrazi za kurkumin, gingseng itd...

Kao drugo nije poenta vitamina c samo da ti smanji šansu za prehladu, ima i drugih benefits

Kao treće to je jedna studija i niti jedna nije dovoljno velika da pokaže prave rezultate, evo druge studije za vitamin c koja kaze da umanjuje broj common colda

https://www.nature.com/articles/1602261

Metaanaliza je viši rang istraživanja nego RCT, tako da je ovaj rad niže vrijednosti nego metaanaliza koja obuhvaća nekoliko RCT-ova.

A što se ostalog tiče, vitamini sprječavaju hipovitaminoze, ali tko god jede raznovrsno, nema šanse dobiti hipovitaminozu bilo kojeg vitamina. Višak vitamina topivih u vodi (b kompleks, c) ćeš izmokriti, ne možeš ih nataložiti viška, niti bi imao koristi od toga, dok vitamine topive u mastima (A, D, E, K) možeš nataložiti viška i to ti onda može samo biti štetno, nikako korisno, npr može ti jetra nastradati.

Što se tiče ostalih suplemenata, samo ih krkajte, ali nema metaanalize koje bi dokazale njihovu učinkovitost, naravno, nije da će škoditi, ali kao što inicijalno rekoh, samo su bacanje para uz raznovrsnu prehranu.

Sta mislis o NAC-u i jel dobar kao preventiva protiv virusa?
Ja sam ga pio jedno vrijeme ali nakon nekog koristenja uhvatio me nenormalan svrbez po cijelom tijelu. I vidjeh da moze od toga mada bas mi cudno jer nikad u zivotu nisam imao nikakve alergije. Pa ga ukinuh...

[Naslovnica]

Kažu da med nikada ne treba uzimati metalnom kašikom, samo drvo ili plastika.
I nikada ga u vruće turati.
Tako da to poštujem.
Ja ga nama najčešće smutim u blenderu sa jogurtom, bananama i bobičastim voćem, najbolje prolazi tako.

Sreca pa su pera blendera od plastike.

Ma na tu količinu tekućine ne vjerujem da nož ima neki uticaj, ali zaista nisam razmišljao o tome, good point.

[JohnnyS]

Metaanaliza je viši rang istraživanja nego RCT, tako da je ovaj rad niže vrijednosti nego metaanaliza koja obuhvaća nekoliko RCT-ova.

A što se ostalog tiče, vitamini sprječavaju hipovitaminoze, ali tko god jede raznovrsno, nema šanse dobiti hipovitaminozu bilo kojeg vitamina. Višak vitamina topivih u vodi (b kompleks, c) ćeš izmokriti, ne možeš ih nataložiti viška, niti bi imao koristi od toga, dok vitamine topive u mastima (A, D, E, K) možeš nataložiti viška i to ti onda može samo biti štetno, nikako korisno, npr može ti jetra nastradati.

Što se tiče ostalih suplemenata, samo ih krkajte, ali nema metaanalize koje bi dokazale njihovu učinkovitost, naravno, nije da će škoditi, ali kao što inicijalno rekoh, samo su bacanje para uz raznovrsnu prehranu.

Sta mislis o NAC-u i jel dobar kao preventiva protiv virusa?
Ja sam ga pio jedno vrijeme ali nakon nekog koristenja uhvatio me nenormalan svrbez po cijelom tijelu. I vidjeh da moze od toga mada bas mi cudno jer nikad u zivotu nisam imao nikakve alergije. Pa ga ukinuh...

Inače NAC je specifični antidot paracetamola, upitno je koliko ima smisla piti u isto vrijeme paracetamol za rušenje temperature i koristiti NAC kad jedno poništava drugo. NAC se koristi u nas u vidu inhalacija kod pojedinih bolesnika s koronom, mislim da mogu pomoći kod onih koji imaju gust sekret

[Niemand]

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Antioxidants can also be found in fruits and vegetables—specifically, selenium, beta-carotene, and vitamins A, C, and E. Studies have shown that people who eat more fruits and vegetables have a lower incidence of cancer and heart disease and live longer. The logic is obvious: If fruits and vegetables contain antioxidants—and people who eat lots of fruits and vegetables are healthier—then people who take supplemental antioxidants should also be healthier.

In fact, they’re less healthy.

In 1994, the National Cancer Institute, in collaboration with Finland’s National Public Health Institute, studied 29,000 Finnish men, all long-term smokers more than 50 years old. This group was chosen because they were at high risk for cancer and heart disease. Subjects were given vitamin E, beta-carotene, both, or neither. The results were clear: Those taking vitamins and supplements were more likely to die from lung cancer or heart disease than those who didn’t take them—the opposite of what researchers had anticipated.

In 1996, investigators from the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center, in Seattle, studied 18,000 people who, because they had been exposed to asbestos, were at increased risk of lung cancer. Again, subjects received vitamin A, beta-carotene, both, or neither. Investigators ended the study abruptly when they realized that those who took vitamins and supplements were dying from cancer and heart disease at rates 28 and 17 percent higher, respectively, than those who didn’t.

In 2004, researchers from the University of Copenhagen reviewed 14 randomized trials involving more than 170,000 people who took vitamins A, C, E, and beta-carotene to see whether antioxidants could prevent intestinal cancers. Again, antioxidants didn’t live up to the hype. The authors concluded, “We could not find evidence that antioxidant supplements can prevent gastrointestinal cancers; on the contrary, they seem to increase overall mortality.” When these same researchers evaluated the seven best studies, they found that death rates were 6 percent higher in those taking vitamins.

In 2005, researchers from Johns Hopkins School of Medicine evaluated 19 studies involving more than 136,000 people and found an increased risk of death associated with supplemental vitamin E. Dr. Benjamin Caballero, the director of the Center for Human Nutrition at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, said, “This reaffirms what others have said. The evidence for supplementing with any vitamin, particularly vitamin E, is just not there. This idea that people have that [vitamins] will not hurt them may not be that simple.” That same year, a study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association evaluated more than 9,000 people who took high-dose vitamin E to prevent cancer; those who took vitamin E were more likely to develop heart failure than those who didn’t.

In 2007, researchers from the National Cancer Institute examined 11,000 men who did or didn’t take multivitamins. Those who took multivitamins were twice as likely to die from advanced prostate cancer.

In 2008, a review of all existing studies involving more than 230,000 people who did or did not receive supplemental antioxidants found that vitamins increased the risk of cancer and heart disease.

On October 10, 2011, researchers from the University of Minnesota evaluated 39,000 older women and found that those who took supplemental multivitamins, magnesium, zinc, copper, and iron died at rates higher than those who didn’t. They concluded, “Based on existing evidence, we see little justification for the general and widespread use of dietary supplements.”

Two days later, on October 12, researchers from the Cleveland Clinic published the results of a study of 36,000 men who took vitamin E, selenium, both, or neither. They found that those receiving vitamin E had a 17 percent greater risk of prostate cancer. In response to the study, Steven Nissen, the chairman of cardiology at the Cleveland Clinic, said, “The concept of multivitamins was sold to Americans by an eager nutraceutical industry to generate profits. There was never any scientific data supporting their usage.”
...

https://www.theatlantic.com/article/277947/

Ne bih da kvarim cejf, neg et nako.

[KraljicaIzJajca]

Sreca pa su pera blendera od plastike.

Ma na tu količinu tekućine ne vjerujem da nož ima neki uticaj, ali zaista nisam razmišljao o tome, good point.

Blenderom uništavaš vlakna, ulijeniš rad crijeva, toliko o blagodatima blendirane hrane a ista se daje bebama i osobama sa raznim teškim bolestima.

[JohnnyS]

...
Antioxidants can also be found in fruits and vegetables—specifically, selenium, beta-carotene, and vitamins A, C, and E. Studies have shown that people who eat more fruits and vegetables have a lower incidence of cancer and heart disease and live longer. The logic is obvious: If fruits and vegetables contain antioxidants—and people who eat lots of fruits and vegetables are healthier—then people who take supplemental antioxidants should also be healthier.

In fact, they’re less healthy.

In 1994, the National Cancer Institute, in collaboration with Finland’s National Public Health Institute, studied 29,000 Finnish men, all long-term smokers more than 50 years old. This group was chosen because they were at high risk for cancer and heart disease. Subjects were given vitamin E, beta-carotene, both, or neither. The results were clear: Those taking vitamins and supplements were more likely to die from lung cancer or heart disease than those who didn’t take them—the opposite of what researchers had anticipated.

In 1996, investigators from the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center, in Seattle, studied 18,000 people who, because they had been exposed to asbestos, were at increased risk of lung cancer. Again, subjects received vitamin A, beta-carotene, both, or neither. Investigators ended the study abruptly when they realized that those who took vitamins and supplements were dying from cancer and heart disease at rates 28 and 17 percent higher, respectively, than those who didn’t.

In 2004, researchers from the University of Copenhagen reviewed 14 randomized trials involving more than 170,000 people who took vitamins A, C, E, and beta-carotene to see whether antioxidants could prevent intestinal cancers. Again, antioxidants didn’t live up to the hype. The authors concluded, “We could not find evidence that antioxidant supplements can prevent gastrointestinal cancers; on the contrary, they seem to increase overall mortality.” When these same researchers evaluated the seven best studies, they found that death rates were 6 percent higher in those taking vitamins.

In 2005, researchers from Johns Hopkins School of Medicine evaluated 19 studies involving more than 136,000 people and found an increased risk of death associated with supplemental vitamin E. Dr. Benjamin Caballero, the director of the Center for Human Nutrition at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, said, “This reaffirms what others have said. The evidence for supplementing with any vitamin, particularly vitamin E, is just not there. This idea that people have that [vitamins] will not hurt them may not be that simple.” That same year, a study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association evaluated more than 9,000 people who took high-dose vitamin E to prevent cancer; those who took vitamin E were more likely to develop heart failure than those who didn’t.

In 2007, researchers from the National Cancer Institute examined 11,000 men who did or didn’t take multivitamins. Those who took multivitamins were twice as likely to die from advanced prostate cancer.

In 2008, a review of all existing studies involving more than 230,000 people who did or did not receive supplemental antioxidants found that vitamins increased the risk of cancer and heart disease.

On October 10, 2011, researchers from the University of Minnesota evaluated 39,000 older women and found that those who took supplemental multivitamins, magnesium, zinc, copper, and iron died at rates higher than those who didn’t. They concluded, “Based on existing evidence, we see little justification for the general and widespread use of dietary supplements.”

Two days later, on October 12, researchers from the Cleveland Clinic published the results of a study of 36,000 men who took vitamin E, selenium, both, or neither. They found that those receiving vitamin E had a 17 percent greater risk of prostate cancer. In response to the study, Steven Nissen, the chairman of cardiology at the Cleveland Clinic, said, “The concept of multivitamins was sold to Americans by an eager nutraceutical industry to generate profits. There was never any scientific data supporting their usage.”
...

https://www.theatlantic.com/article/277947/

Ne bih da kvarim cejf, neg et nako.

Ma što se praviš pametan eno onaj neki milijarder neki mu doktor rekao da uzima. Tako kažu

[Naslovnica]

Ma na tu količinu tekućine ne vjerujem da nož ima neki uticaj, ali zaista nisam razmišljao o tome, good point.

Blenderom uništavaš vlakna, ulijeniš rad crijeva, toliko o blagodatima blendirane hrane a ista se daje bebama i osobama sa raznim teškim bolestima.

Jarane Kraljice, 4 velike banane, 400gr bobičastog voća, jogurt, med.
Solo nikada neće pojesti, ovako popiju dok si rekao keks.
Nisam znao da sa blenderom uništavaju vlakna.

Edit:
Eo kae guglo da ne uništava vlakna

[p206]

haj svakako ćemo krepati svi

osim engleske kraljice

[KraljicaIzJajca]

Blenderom uništavaš vlakna, ulijeniš rad crijeva, toliko o blagodatima blendirane hrane a ista se daje bebama i osobama sa raznim teškim bolestima.

Jarane Kraljice, 4 velike banane, 400gr bobičastog voća, jogurt, med.
Solo nikada neće pojesti, ovako popiju dok si rekao keks.
Nisam znao da sa blenderom uništavaju vlakna.

Edit:
Eo kae guglo da ne uništava vlakna

Piše ti da uništava insoluble fiber, a to je fiber koji prođe kroz crijeva i omogućava konsistenciju i kretanje kakice.

Unfortunately, the insoluble fibers rarely survive a blender. A smaller amount will stay there, with the rest being cut and chopped up entirely by the powerful blades. However, the destroyed fibers should not do any harm to you and they should just pass through.

Soluble fiber večinom ostane neoštečena:

https://www.juicykitchens.com/does-blen ... nutrients/

Važno je da tako popiju vitamine

[Naslovnica]

Jarane Kraljice, 4 velike banane, 400gr bobičastog voća, jogurt, med.
Solo nikada neće pojesti, ovako popiju dok si rekao keks.
Nisam znao da sa blenderom uništavaju vlakna.

Edit:
Eo kae guglo da ne uništava vlakna

Piše ti da uništava insoluble fiber, a to je fiber koji prođe kroz crijeva i omogućava konsistenciju i kretanje kakice.

Unfortunately, the insoluble fibers rarely survive a blender. A smaller amount will stay there, with the rest being cut and chopped up entirely by the powerful blades. However, the destroyed fibers should not do any harm to you and they should just pass through.

Soluble fiber večinom ostane neoštečena:

https://www.juicykitchens.com/does-blen ... nutrients/

Važno je da tako popiju vitamine

Ovo što im ja blendam su ti "soluble".
I, btw, seru ko foke.

[KraljicaIzJajca]

Piše ti da uništava insoluble fiber, a to je fiber koji prođe kroz crijeva i omogućava konsistenciju i kretanje kakice.

Unfortunately, the insoluble fibers rarely survive a blender. A smaller amount will stay there, with the rest being cut and chopped up entirely by the powerful blades. However, the destroyed fibers should not do any harm to you and they should just pass through.

Soluble fiber večinom ostane neoštečena:

https://www.juicykitchens.com/does-blen ... nutrients/

Važno je da tako popiju vitamine

Ovo što im ja blendam su ti "soluble".
I, btw, seru ko foke.

Blender je bolji od kupljenih vočnih sokova i vitaminskih gumi bonbina.

[Becky7]

Kažu da med nikada ne treba uzimati metalnom kašikom, samo drvo ili plastika.
I nikada ga u vruće turati.
Tako da to poštujem.
Ja ga nama najčešće smutim u blenderu sa jogurtom, bananama i bobičastim voćem, najbolje prolazi tako.

Med ne steti uzeti kasikom metalnom sam med se vrca u metalnoj vrcaljki, tata mi je u slobodno vrijeme od posla svog bavio se pcelarstvom i nikada nije na to obracao paznju puno.

[Naslovnica]

Kažu da med nikada ne treba uzimati metalnom kašikom, samo drvo ili plastika.
I nikada ga u vruće turati.
Tako da to poštujem.
Ja ga nama najčešće smutim u blenderu sa jogurtom, bananama i bobičastim voćem, najbolje prolazi tako.

Med ne steti uzeti kasikom metalnom sam med se vrca u metalnoj vrcaljki, tata mi je u slobodno vrijeme od posla svog bavio se pcelarstvom i nikada nije na to obracao paznju puno.

Ma čitao sam i to, izgleda da su u pitanju čula/kazala predrasude.

[Becky7]

Med ne steti uzeti kasikom metalnom sam med se vrca u metalnoj vrcaljki, tata mi je u slobodno vrijeme od posla svog bavio se pcelarstvom i nikada nije na to obracao paznju puno.

Ma čitao sam i to, izgleda da su u pitanju čula/kazala predrasude.

Ja ga uzimam metalnom kasicicom kako mi je tata rekao, jer u vrcaljki med isto provede vremena vise nego iz tegle do usta.

[Becky7]

Moja lunch doza
B kom.....krill oil...iron....amla...hyalur.acid....magnes.. skin ...

Vidi se da struka izvire iz mene bas lijepo i slatko izgledaju koja je ljubicasta?

[Naslovnica]

Moja lunch doza
B kom.....krill oil...iron....amla...hyalur.acid....magnes.. skin ...

Vidi se da struka izvire iz mene bas lijepo i slatko izgledaju koja je ljubicasta?

I na kraju te pregazi Golf 2.

[Becky7]

Vidi se da struka izvire iz mene bas lijepo i slatko izgledaju koja je ljubicasta?

I na kraju te pregazi Golf 2.

Haha sto?

[muhafuca]

Birilach

josh ubacis povremeno biciklo i termin nekog sporta ili fitnes i to je to

[spinel_]

Sta mislis o NAC-u i jel dobar kao preventiva protiv virusa?
Ja sam ga pio jedno vrijeme ali nakon nekog koristenja uhvatio me nenormalan svrbez po cijelom tijelu. I vidjeh da moze od toga mada bas mi cudno jer nikad u zivotu nisam imao nikakve alergije. Pa ga ukinuh...

Inače NAC je specifični antidot paracetamola, upitno je koliko ima smisla piti u isto vrijeme paracetamol za rušenje temperature i koristiti NAC kad jedno poništava drugo. NAC se koristi u nas u vidu inhalacija kod pojedinih bolesnika s koronom, mislim da mogu pomoći kod onih koji imaju gust sekret

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