I to ga naravno čini velikim BošnjakomtheTruePath wrote:On se pokajao i prije smrti vratio ponovo islamu,dzenazu je imaoradostan dan wrote:što nina aboliraste?
njegova sestra je dala intervju kako je plakao i sl kad je presao na islam opet
Zid bosnjackog srama
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grizly1991
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- Gojeni H
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#177 Re: Zid bosnjackog srama
Ja sam stavio post o Silvani i Mirjani i do mene je. Iako mi je namjera bila nesto sasvim drugo.
Ovaj fenomen je ipak za sociologije i druge teme.
Mozda ipak trebamo da se drzimo ljudi sa upitnom lojalnoscu i otvorenih izdajica, Srba i Hrvata "islamske vjeroiskaznosti" kojima se ova zemlja "gadila", bosnjackih posrbica, itd.
Omer Jovan "John" Zametica
Zak Mase ga je nazvao "Karadziceva prokleta dusa". Savjetnik Radovana Karadzica 90-ih.
Vesovic za njega pise:
"Jovan se prije rata zvao Omer. U istoriji nisu rijetki slučajevi da Mićo sebe unaprijedi u Omera, ali se obrnuto nije zbivalo svaki dan. Taj Omer koji je avanzovao u Jovana preziva se Zametica, i u ratu se u svom apartmanu na Palama pokrstio: dok mu je pop izlivao kotlić vode na glavu, svoje kumče na rukama je držao Dragan Davidović, ministar vjera u svim vladama RS...
Jovan Zametica je postao slavan zbog izjave da “nikakvog nasilja nije bilo kad su snage bosanskih Srba osvojile Srebrenicu”, ne računajući, naravno, nasilje nad Bošnjacima."
Ovaj fenomen je ipak za sociologije i druge teme.
Mozda ipak trebamo da se drzimo ljudi sa upitnom lojalnoscu i otvorenih izdajica, Srba i Hrvata "islamske vjeroiskaznosti" kojima se ova zemlja "gadila", bosnjackih posrbica, itd.
Omer Jovan "John" Zametica
Zak Mase ga je nazvao "Karadziceva prokleta dusa". Savjetnik Radovana Karadzica 90-ih.
Vesovic za njega pise:
"Jovan se prije rata zvao Omer. U istoriji nisu rijetki slučajevi da Mićo sebe unaprijedi u Omera, ali se obrnuto nije zbivalo svaki dan. Taj Omer koji je avanzovao u Jovana preziva se Zametica, i u ratu se u svom apartmanu na Palama pokrstio: dok mu je pop izlivao kotlić vode na glavu, svoje kumče na rukama je držao Dragan Davidović, ministar vjera u svim vladama RS...
Jovan Zametica je postao slavan zbog izjave da “nikakvog nasilja nije bilo kad su snage bosanskih Srba osvojile Srebrenicu”, ne računajući, naravno, nasilje nad Bošnjacima."
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theTruePath
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#178 Re: Zid bosnjackog srama
Ne znam n idal je on bosnjak,moze biti da je rom kao pola tih sto su promjenili imegrizly1991 wrote:I to ga naravno čini velikim BošnjakomtheTruePath wrote:On se pokajao i prije smrti vratio ponovo islamu,dzenazu je imaoradostan dan wrote:što nina aboliraste?
njegova sestra je dala intervju kako je plakao i sl kad je presao na islam opet
seka aleksic lafo ima mamu muslimanku i svi kontaju bosnjakinja,a nece da kaze da je romkinja..i ako cijela bijeljina zna da joj je majka romkinja
- It_is_a_Leclerc
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#179 Re: Zid bosnjackog srama
Pa šta je ovo, majka mu stara ?! Tema o historijkim ličnostima, ili marginalnim produktima retardirane estradne scene na Balknu ?!
Pitam još jedanput - zbog čega se na ovaj zid odbija staviti najveće sramote Bošnjaka - one koji su, kao pripadnici ustaških formacija, učestvovali u planiranju i izvođenju sveobuhvatnog čina genocida protiv bosanskih Jevreja, Srba i Roma. I, zbog čega se na ovaj zid odbija staviti osobe pravomoćno osuđene za ratni zločin u zadnjem ratu, a koje su svojim činom nanijeli neoprostivu sramotu i ljagu na časan zadatak odbrane BiH ?!
Da to oni možda nisu heroji ?
Pitam još jedanput - zbog čega se na ovaj zid odbija staviti najveće sramote Bošnjaka - one koji su, kao pripadnici ustaških formacija, učestvovali u planiranju i izvođenju sveobuhvatnog čina genocida protiv bosanskih Jevreja, Srba i Roma. I, zbog čega se na ovaj zid odbija staviti osobe pravomoćno osuđene za ratni zločin u zadnjem ratu, a koje su svojim činom nanijeli neoprostivu sramotu i ljagu na časan zadatak odbrane BiH ?!
Da to oni možda nisu heroji ?
- Gojeni H
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#180 Re: Zid bosnjackog srama
Omer Jovan "John" Zametica (nastavak)
by Samantha Power, New Republic, 1996
Jovan Zametica, Political Consultant
If Plavsic is the spinster of Srpska, then Zametica, a 40-year-old bespectacled imp, is its spin doctor. Zametica, who was given the name "Omer" by his Muslim father and half-Serb, half-German mother, emigrated from Bosnia to England in his late teens; like the Turkish janissaries, he has been overcompensating for his "impure" blood ever since. Capitalizing on his connections and schooling--University of Liverpool (degree in history and politics, 1977), London School of Economics (Master's in international history, 1978), Cambridge University (Ph.D. research, tutorship)--this tweedy "neutral observer" (who changed his name from "Omer" to "John" while in England) wrote a series of anti-interventionist, Serb apologist tracts in the early days of the war that made him extremely popular with Whitehall. He even briefed the American ambassador in London on the Yugoslav conflict in October 1991. The zenith of Zametica's hand-to-mouth academic career came that same year, when he wrote the "Yugoslav Conflict," an Adelphi paper that was published by the prestigious International Institute for Strategic Studies. Laudatory Fleet Street reviews followed, which consecrated his monograph as the "well-crafted," "authoritative" gospel on the roots of the tragedy.
His many sponsors were shocked a few months later when Zametica turned up in Belgrade with the name "Jovan" and the job of mouthpiece for the Bosnian Serb cause--the Serb answer to suave, English-speaking Muslim senior officials. An official at the University of Westminster, where Zametica was then employed as a research fellow, issued a curt statement: "His research has come to an end."
I first met Zametica in Belgrade in August 1994 when, after Milosevic closed the border to the Bosnian Serbs, he was reduced to thumbing a lift to Pale in my car. ("I'm not fat, and I carry a small suitcase," he promised on the phone.) Three months later, in November 1994, he was living out the dream of every bullied schoolboy, telling U.N. Commander Lieutenant General Sir Michael Rose--the Sorbonne- and Oxford-educated knight--where to go: "I shall use very undiplomatic language," squealed Zametica. "The message is don't mess about. Don't f* around. If you hit us, it means war. Repeat. If you hit us, it means an all-out war."
Rose was duly chastened. "No one's messing around with anyone," he soothed. "We are merely trying to act as intermediaries and peace-keepers in a rather confused and difficult situation." To which Zametica replied: "I think you should use all your formidable intellect and authority back in London to state exactly what is at stake here."
Like the rest of the Pale clan, Zametica loves to lie. The difference, former tutors say, is that this Anglophile should know better. "Over the past few days," he declared last year in the aftermath of the fall of Srebrenica, " the world media, assisted and prompted by the Muslim authorities, have indulged in an orgy of uncritical reporting on the events in Srebrenica. Claims of torture, executions, rapes and deportations of Muslims are being repeated constantly without any independent confirmation. The truth is that none of the above mentioned has happened... Serbs treated the Muslim civilians well." More than 6,000 Muslim men and boys are now presumed to have been massacred by Bosnian Serb soldiers...
by Samantha Power, New Republic, 1996
Jovan Zametica, Political Consultant
If Plavsic is the spinster of Srpska, then Zametica, a 40-year-old bespectacled imp, is its spin doctor. Zametica, who was given the name "Omer" by his Muslim father and half-Serb, half-German mother, emigrated from Bosnia to England in his late teens; like the Turkish janissaries, he has been overcompensating for his "impure" blood ever since. Capitalizing on his connections and schooling--University of Liverpool (degree in history and politics, 1977), London School of Economics (Master's in international history, 1978), Cambridge University (Ph.D. research, tutorship)--this tweedy "neutral observer" (who changed his name from "Omer" to "John" while in England) wrote a series of anti-interventionist, Serb apologist tracts in the early days of the war that made him extremely popular with Whitehall. He even briefed the American ambassador in London on the Yugoslav conflict in October 1991. The zenith of Zametica's hand-to-mouth academic career came that same year, when he wrote the "Yugoslav Conflict," an Adelphi paper that was published by the prestigious International Institute for Strategic Studies. Laudatory Fleet Street reviews followed, which consecrated his monograph as the "well-crafted," "authoritative" gospel on the roots of the tragedy.
His many sponsors were shocked a few months later when Zametica turned up in Belgrade with the name "Jovan" and the job of mouthpiece for the Bosnian Serb cause--the Serb answer to suave, English-speaking Muslim senior officials. An official at the University of Westminster, where Zametica was then employed as a research fellow, issued a curt statement: "His research has come to an end."
I first met Zametica in Belgrade in August 1994 when, after Milosevic closed the border to the Bosnian Serbs, he was reduced to thumbing a lift to Pale in my car. ("I'm not fat, and I carry a small suitcase," he promised on the phone.) Three months later, in November 1994, he was living out the dream of every bullied schoolboy, telling U.N. Commander Lieutenant General Sir Michael Rose--the Sorbonne- and Oxford-educated knight--where to go: "I shall use very undiplomatic language," squealed Zametica. "The message is don't mess about. Don't f* around. If you hit us, it means war. Repeat. If you hit us, it means an all-out war."
Rose was duly chastened. "No one's messing around with anyone," he soothed. "We are merely trying to act as intermediaries and peace-keepers in a rather confused and difficult situation." To which Zametica replied: "I think you should use all your formidable intellect and authority back in London to state exactly what is at stake here."
Like the rest of the Pale clan, Zametica loves to lie. The difference, former tutors say, is that this Anglophile should know better. "Over the past few days," he declared last year in the aftermath of the fall of Srebrenica, " the world media, assisted and prompted by the Muslim authorities, have indulged in an orgy of uncritical reporting on the events in Srebrenica. Claims of torture, executions, rapes and deportations of Muslims are being repeated constantly without any independent confirmation. The truth is that none of the above mentioned has happened... Serbs treated the Muslim civilians well." More than 6,000 Muslim men and boys are now presumed to have been massacred by Bosnian Serb soldiers...
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#181 Re: Zid bosnjackog srama
Mersad Berber. Čovjek je 1993. uputio otvoreno pismo Aliji Izetbegoviću u kojem ga poziva da prekine agresiju i zločine nad Hrvatima u BiH 
- Gojeni H
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#182 Re: Zid bosnjackog srama
Pa stavljen je Nahid Kulenovic, mada sam vjerovatno trebao postaviti "Kulenovici u NDH i hrvatskoj emigraciji", s obzirom na aferime oca i amidze.It_is_a_Leclerc wrote:Pa šta je ovo, majka mu stara ?! Tema o historijkim ličnostima, ili marginalnim produktima retardirane estradne scene na Balknu ?!
Pitam još jedanput - zbog čega se na ovaj zid odbija staviti najveće sramote Bošnjaka - one koji su, kao pripadnici ustaških formacija, učestvovali u planiranju i izvođenju sveobuhvatnog čina genocida protiv bosanskih Jevreja, Srba i Roma. I, zbog čega se na ovaj zid odbija staviti osobe pravomoćno osuđene za ratni zločin u zadnjem ratu, a koje su svojim činom nanijeli neoprostivu sramotu i ljagu na časan zadatak odbrane BiH ?!
Da to oni možda nisu heroji ?
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theTruePath
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#183 Re: Zid bosnjackog srama
ultima_palabra wrote:Mersad Berber. Čovjek je 1993. uputio otvoreno pismo Aliji Izetbegoviću u kojem ga poziva da prekine agresiju i zločine nad Hrvatima u BiH
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#184 Re: Zid bosnjackog srama
Jovan Zametica je zanimljiv slucaj. Covjek se iz Londona stavio u sluzbu srpske politike. Kako vidim ne javlja se od kraja rata. Mozda bi neko mogao i popricati sa Jovanom.
A Mersad Berber, ne znam. Poslije rata se nije isticao ni na koji nacin, bice da se pokajao.
A Mersad Berber, ne znam. Poslije rata se nije isticao ni na koji nacin, bice da se pokajao.
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#185 Re: Zid bosnjackog srama
"Emir Kusturica ga u jednom intervjuu navodi kao čoveka koji mu je razrešio dilemu oko identiteta, pokazavši mu Brankovo kolo iz 1915. sa popisom srpskih porodica iz Hercegovine („Odakle su Zametice, odatle su i Kusturice.“)."sinuhe wrote:Jovan Zametica je zanimljiv slucaj. Covjek se iz Londona stavio u sluzbu srpske politike. Kako vidim ne javlja se od kraja rata. Mozda bi neko mogao i popricati sa Jovanom.
A Mersad Berber, ne znam. Poslije rata se nije isticao ni na koji nacin, bice da se pokajao.
Beton, 2007 god.
- Gojeni H
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#186 Re: Zid bosnjackog srama
Ali-pasa RizvanbegovicBosanski_kralj wrote:Kako se zove onaj što je izdao Huseina- kapetana Gradašćevića u borbi protiv turaka?
http://bs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali-pa%C5% ... govi%C4%87
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali-pa%C5% ... govi%C4%87
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theTruePath
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#187 Re: Zid bosnjackog srama
Placenik,nista drugosinuhe wrote:Jovan Zametica je zanimljiv slucaj. Covjek se iz Londona stavio u sluzbu srpske politike. Kako vidim ne javlja se od kraja rata. Mozda bi neko mogao i popricati sa Jovanom.
A Mersad Berber, ne znam. Poslije rata se nije isticao ni na koji nacin, bice da se pokajao.
Nego on je vjerovatno dobra licnost kod srba,sve je relativno,isto kao sto su nama neki srbi dobri a njima ti isti izdajnici
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#189 Re: Zid bosnjackog srama
Odakle Husein Rovcanin medju cetnicima da mi je znati! Covjek bio u muslimanskoj miliciji u Sandzaku koji je branio bosnjacki narod a ovdje citam da je bio u cetnicima... 
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#190 Re: Zid bosnjackog srama
Rizvanbegovic isto,fuj gnjido ali Bosna je mnogo jaca nego sto su zubi izdajica
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theTruePath
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#191 Re: Zid bosnjackog srama
Fikret Abdic ulazi u istoriju kao glavni izdajni bosnjackog roda
imamo ih nesto puno
imamo ih nesto puno
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theTruePath
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#192 Re: Zid bosnjackog srama
ali bez Alije naravnoharač wrote:HOCEMO ANKETU![]()
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red bi bio imamo najlicnost u bosnjaka moze i bosnjacki sram
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#193 Re: Zid bosnjackog srama
Povezao bih ovo sa Bozanskom Komedijom tacnije dijelom Pakao,kada opisuje u 9.krugu kako izgleda sotona,do pola je u necemu(ne mogu se sjetiti)i ima tri glave,kao najvecih izdajnika,Juda,Brut i jos jedan,stvarno se ne mogu sjetiti tako moze i ovdjetheTruePath wrote:Fikret Abdic ulazi u istoriju kao glavni izdajni bosnjackog roda
imamo ih nesto puno
Fikret Abdic,Ali-paša Rizanbegović i dodajte po svom treceg
- madner
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#194 Re: Zid bosnjackog srama
Inace meni to nema nikakvog smisla sa Fikretom. Isti je pobjedio na izborima, koja je to bila finta?
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#195 Re: Zid bosnjackog srama
madner wrote:Inace meni to nema nikakvog smisla sa Fikretom. Isti je pobjedio na izborima, koja je to bila finta?
Ti sada malo podhebajes, je'l de? Kako bolan nema smisla, nema smisla to tvoje povezivanje njegove izborne pobjede sa kasnijim otvorenim putem u izdaju. Okrenuo se protiv centralne vlasti, izvrsio ratni zlocin nad sopstevnim narodom (Mazowiecki nakon posjeta logorima pod njegovom kontrolom rekao kako nikada, uprkos svojoj dugoj karijeri, nije mogao zamisliti da se neko na takav nacin odnosi prema sopstevnom narodu), krenuo putem separatizma.
Na kraju krajeva sama cinjenica da je osudjeni ratni zlocinac (zbog ratnih zlocina nad sopstevnim narodom) mislim da je dovoljna da ga kvalifikuje kao najveceg izdajnika u Bosnjaka tokom kompletne historije?
- madner
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#196 Re: Zid bosnjackog srama
Nema mi smisla da ako je postavljen da izda prepusti Aliji mjesto.
Nije sporno da je izdajnik.
Nije sporno da je izdajnik.
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theTruePath
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#197 Re: Zid bosnjackog srama
madner wrote:Inace meni to nema nikakvog smisla sa Fikretom. Isti je pobjedio na izborima, koja je to bila finta?
Kakve to veze ima Allahati ??? pa pobjedio je i Milosevic kod srba
- karanana
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#198 Re: Zid bosnjackog srama
pobijedio je i hitler kod shvabamadner wrote:Inace meni to nema nikakvog smisla sa Fikretom. Isti je pobjedio na izborima, koja je to bila finta?
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theTruePath
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#199 Re: Zid bosnjackog srama
Na kraju krajeva sama cinjenica da je osudjeni ratni zlocinac (zbog ratnih zlocina nad sopstevnim narodom) mislim da je dovoljna da ga kvalifikuje kao najveceg izdajnika u Bosnjaka tokom kompletne historije?
Koliko likova na ovom svijetu su osudjeni ratni zlocinci nad VLASTITIM narodom?
- madner
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#200 Re: Zid bosnjackog srama
Pa nije izdao Svabe. Uradio je tacno ono sto je napisao u knjizi.karanana wrote:pobijedio je i hitler kod shvabamadner wrote:Inace meni to nema nikakvog smisla sa Fikretom. Isti je pobjedio na izborima, koja je to bila finta?

