filozofija religije

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shtula
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#1 filozofija religije

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World without frontiers
wall in tears
Peter Gabriel


there are limits to understanding, understanding is expending but
comparing to vast unknown , "all I know is that I know nothing" has
more substence then claiming to know everything, when that
everything is within limits of known. One of pro religion arguments
could be that every civilization regardless how small and remote has
almost identical perception of conditions its in, it diverse in
wording and description of phenomenon of life but it contains
identical metaphysical structure. That's way too beyond
coincidence . Even if soul is rationalized to energy, energy does
not disappear it transforms itself. Ones heart only looks upward or
downward, only way to beam light off of ones chest into universe
might be in fact religion, religion as a port to unknown
omnipresence.

detachment from spiritual might be recognized in 19th-20th centuries
naturalism- realism resentment from detachment from nature with
industrialization, so diminished spirituality correlates with
modernization-postmodernisation locking in shell of overrationalised
perception.

one of the possible metaphysical problems of today's collective
consciousness might by that Science seems like abandoned child of
religion, it would be obligation of parent to reach out , give
guidance, find mutual understanding and to prevent its children from
overwhelming self-destructive potential

Disorder is obviously unsustainable within social laws and doesn't
last long, there are those two forces of good and evil, in absence
of God
society and soul deteriorates toward ungood. It doesn't mean that if
Germany
at a time saw God absent or not present enough society needed to
look for God
within themselves, through that uberlinch-super God like human, if
they were in
fact superior kind they wouldn't end up destroyed from bought sides,
from
those that they considered subhuman. That God was not dead as much
as they would
prefer amongst other indications was that behind assassinating on
Hitler was a
German priest.

Absolute categories do not exist in reality as we perceive it
(Plato), if society that industrialized killing, made documentaries
for its people in which they call and consider entire other group of
people rats and used klix rat poison to kill them in those
showers, puled children's ayes out to see why they are same, is not
deterioration into hell and relativisation of ethics than what it
is, Christianity itself regards Hitler as one of riders of
Apocalypse.

Consciousness is not God, but only those who follow God have
consciousness. Trying to make God out of consciousness is shadow of
psychology and philosophy that makes god out of mind, mind is just
component of soul, as philosophy and psychology are children and
fractions of religion. What in religion stands for possessed in
rationalization of psychology is mental illness. Danger of those
overrationalisations are in despiritualisation. As if
overationalisations of philosophy and psychology while trying to
fight evil end up channeling it , like inquisition while fighting
evil ended up prosecuting for insignificant things and for
questionable reasons until it mounted resentment in French
revolution, that itself didn't last long ,and is reaction to
disorder rather, it can be said it failed becouse its shadow was
atheism, abandoning religion as important fiber of society, same can
be said for communism it was reaction of workers to dehumanized
living conditions and capitalistic transformation into fascism, it
also fails , its based in atheism. More then enough reasons that
true religion is important for avoiding social chaos and disorder.

There is Joseph Campbell's "Hero with a thousand faces",
that broadens this understanding to any form of warship that has
good as its
core belief.

Categories that overlap God , good, consciousness, (God gives) soul,
order vs. Devil, evil, subconscious , animalistic, souless, disorder.

there are multiple ways and fractions in understanding ,so many
fractions
in philosophy, there are those two main positions Aristotelian
materialistic and
Plato's idealism. IN that Aristotelian perspective are atheism and
Freudian
understanding, from Platonism develops contemporary understanding of
spiritual
and religion.Early Cristian's defend themselves with that they are
only
preaching Plato. Then there is that Jungian reaction to
despiritualised overly
materialistic Freudian understanding , so there is that of his ,
ones metal
state is directly related to ones relation toward God. Third
position would be
Kantian agnosticism, and he perhaps being reaction to growing
materialistic ways
of understanding spiritual categories. All of those concepts of
understanding
are real in its nature and cannot be excluded or exclusive of each
other.Inability to see that different position is also real can be
limiting
because of that linear approach to understanding that as a
consequence leads to
friction between materialism and idealism. If those are considered
perspectives
instead of fixed positions more objective level of understanding can
be reached.
Perhaps even compromise between evolutionary and creationists
understanding,
Like perhaps from agnostic position, through sublimation spirit and
consciousness developed, spiritual categories are recognized and
made into
codex. In a sense with this nonlinear way of understanding it is
perhaps
possible to synthetase any position. Its like this static position
of liner
thinking with its overrationalising lacks life to it. Reaching this
multiperspective objectivity might be closer to mind of universe.

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#2 Re: filozofija religije

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games without frontiers, war without tears?

(ajd malo specificiraj temu?)
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#3 Re: filozofija religije

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animalistic origins of humans cause slips into giving up on religion in itself, and replacing it with religion as a makeup.

It's personal choice whether one will decide to be human or animal.(Freud, Aristotle, Plato, Spencer, Jung)

In another words humans have their way and subhumans their own.
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#4 Re: filozofija religije

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angels are universal externalized states of spiritual bliss, its part of collective mind but with desensitized spirituality all together of modern living those states are diminished
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