F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
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#23926 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
Ne znam je li ko vidio, ozbiljna nesreća u F2, još nema informacija o Fittipaldiju, a prošlo je nekoliko sati od tada, moglo bi biti ozbiljno.
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#23927 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
Max će jednom ubiti nekoga na stazi, mark my words.
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#23928 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
Trebalo bi, pogotovo što su za iduću najavljeni i totalno (aerodinamički) novi bolidikonektovan wrote: ↑06/12/2021 00:55Ova sezona na kraju će vjerovatno donijeti reset,..u pogledu sudijskih odluka i pravila uopšte.bhnapoleon1 wrote: ↑06/12/2021 00:52 U svakom slučaju kad završi sezona, ako završi uopće za 7 dana ovi iz FIA moraju dobro sjesti i zamisliti se o primjeni pravila o imenovanju sudija i kriterijima. Nedostojno i sramotno je ovo sve.
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#23929 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
Pa to. Evo ona prva situacija ham max kad je maks sjekao sikanu, sta je ondje objektivno max mogao uraditi? Hamilton ostavio 0 prostora, malo se pogurali ovJ je morao skrenuto i izbjeci kontakt. Oni ga kazne hahahaha. Apsurd. Jednostavno, svijet je postao placipickav, gdje nema mjesta za cisto rejsanje. Vec ako te neko pokusa pretec skloni se da ne dovijes kaznu. Uzas. F1 je u velikom padu, e formula je mnogo bolja.Samprotivsviju wrote: ↑06/12/2021 00:47 Meni ide na zivce kmecanje oko svakoga jebrnog kontakta 2 auta...odmah zovi Masija da intervenise, znaci svaki kontakt se gleda pod lupom. Ako mislite da je to formula 1, najbolje promjeniti sport u format relija. Voze se samo kvalifikacije i ko bolje vrijeme postavi taj pobjedjuje.
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#23930 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
Treba i jasno definisati pravilo za vraćanja pozicije. Nema smisla odmah pred DRS zonu i onda te ovaj opet prestigne u DRS-u hinjski, a fol vratio ti poziciju.
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#23932 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
Definisano je i pravilo za razmak u formacijskom krugu, pa ga Lewis nije postovao, sta na kraju bi...vuk pojeo magarca.sve_ovo_ja wrote: ↑06/12/2021 08:06 Treba i jasno definisati pravilo za vraćanja pozicije. Nema smisla odmah pred DRS zonu i onda te ovaj opet prestigne u DRS-u hinjski, a fol vratio ti poziciju.
Hocu reci, i da postoje pravila, ocigledno krsenje istih se selektivno sankcionise jer se gleda konacan ishod i efekat na prvenstvo a ne pravednost.
Primjera radi, Sumaher je 1994 imao dasku ispod bolida kracu za par milimetara jer se vise troslila nego kod ostalih bolida, FIA ga je diskvalifikovala sa te utrke i 2 naredne utrke zbog toga, sto je komicno kad gledas danas.
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#23933 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
A Maxovo vjezbanje starta u pit laneu?
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#23935 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
Brze ja u garazi startam, nego sto je on ondje vjezbao u pit laneu
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#23936 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
Nije sporno, ima telemetrija, lako je dokazati. Samo hajmo sve sporne trenutke istraziti, a ne cherry pickati. Ili sve ili nista.azdralovic wrote: ↑06/12/2021 09:38Brze ja u garazi startam, nego sto je on ondje vjezbao u pit laneu
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#23938 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
Meni ono licno nije izgledalo kao startanje, uostalom kakav je uopste benefit imao od toga.
Lewis na drugu stranu je imao dobar benefit, Max je cak i bolje startao od njega ali razlika u temperaturama guma je bila ocita. Mislim ako je Vettel kaznjen zbog istog u madjarskoj, zasto se Lewisu gleda kroz prste
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#23939 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
Hajd da istazimo sve. Samo argumenti. Od cega cemo krenuti?_BataZiv_0809 wrote: ↑06/12/2021 09:43Nije sporno, ima telemetrija, lako je dokazati. Samo hajmo sve sporne trenutke istraziti, a ne cherry pickati. Ili sve ili nista.azdralovic wrote: ↑06/12/2021 09:38
Brze ja u garazi startam, nego sto je on ondje vjezbao u pit laneu
PS: Mali drk....ija je antipatican i ne navaijm za njega, ali navlacenje za LH i Merc je jadno.
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#23940 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
Od pocetka. Ni po babi ni po stricevima.
@Samprotivsviju cini mi se da sam negdje zakacio da to pravilo vazi samo za start utrke, ne i za ponovljeni start.
Odmah da se ogradim-nisam siguran u to i nemam sad vremena istrazivati. Ako nije tacno, onda je i to defitinitivno jedan od spornih trenutaka.
@Samprotivsviju cini mi se da sam negdje zakacio da to pravilo vazi samo za start utrke, ne i za ponovljeni start.
Odmah da se ogradim-nisam siguran u to i nemam sad vremena istrazivati. Ako nije tacno, onda je i to defitinitivno jedan od spornih trenutaka.
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#23941 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
Još gore kaznis ga bez potrebe
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#23942 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
Pravilo je za restart pod SC-om:
39.13 When the clerk of the course decides it is safe to call in the safety car the message "SAFETY CAR
IN THIS LAP" will be sent to all teams Competitors via the official messaging system and the car's
orange lights will be extinguished. This will be the signal to the teams Competitors and drivers
that it will be entering the pit lane at the end of that lap.
At this point the first car in line behind the safety car may dictate the pace and, if necessary, fall
more than ten car lengths behind it.
Josov mali se kurcio i na kraju ispao glup bespotrebno propustajuci Lewisa.
Mercedes opet takticki pobjedio
39.13 When the clerk of the course decides it is safe to call in the safety car the message "SAFETY CAR
IN THIS LAP" will be sent to all teams Competitors via the official messaging system and the car's
orange lights will be extinguished. This will be the signal to the teams Competitors and drivers
that it will be entering the pit lane at the end of that lap.
At this point the first car in line behind the safety car may dictate the pace and, if necessary, fall
more than ten car lengths behind it.
Josov mali se kurcio i na kraju ispao glup bespotrebno propustajuci Lewisa.
Mercedes opet takticki pobjedio
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#23943 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
FIA MAFIA
Treba baklje ubacivati na stazu iz protesta.
Treba baklje ubacivati na stazu iz protesta.
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#23944 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
Ne kontam, de malo pojasni...zforumas wrote: ↑06/12/2021 10:41 Pravilo je za restart pod SC-om:
39.13 When the clerk of the course decides it is safe to call in the safety car the message "SAFETY CAR
IN THIS LAP" will be sent to all teams Competitors via the official messaging system and the car's
orange lights will be extinguished. This will be the signal to the teams Competitors and drivers
that it will be entering the pit lane at the end of that lap.
At this point the first car in line behind the safety car may dictate the pace and, if necessary, fall
more than ten car lengths behind it.
Josov mali se kurcio i na kraju ispao glup bespotrebno propustajuci Lewisa.
Mercedes opet takticki pobjedio
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#23945 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
Trazenje dlake u jajetu, ovo sto je ob stavio se od odnosi samo za prvo auto tj auto odmah iza safety car-a. A Lewis nije bio prvo auto._BataZiv_0809 wrote: ↑06/12/2021 10:43Ne kontam, de malo pojasni...zforumas wrote: ↑06/12/2021 10:41 Pravilo je za restart pod SC-om:
39.13 When the clerk of the course decides it is safe to call in the safety car the message "SAFETY CAR
IN THIS LAP" will be sent to all teams Competitors via the official messaging system and the car's
orange lights will be extinguished. This will be the signal to the teams Competitors and drivers
that it will be entering the pit lane at the end of that lap.
At this point the first car in line behind the safety car may dictate the pace and, if necessary, fall
more than ten car lengths behind it.
Josov mali se kurcio i na kraju ispao glup bespotrebno propustajuci Lewisa.
Mercedes opet takticki pobjedio
All competing cars must reduce speed and form up in line behind the safety car no more than
ten car lengths apart. In order to ensure that drivers reduce speed sufficiently, from the time at
which all Competitors have been sent the “SAFETY CAR DEPLOYED” message via the official
messaging system until the time that each car crosses the first safety car line for the second
time, drivers must stay above the minimum time set by the FIA ECU at least once in each
marshalling sector and at both the first and second safety car lines (a marshalling sector is
defined as the section of track between each of the FIA light panels).
No car may be driven unnecessarily slowly, erratically or in a manner which could be deemed
potentially dangerous to other drivers or any other person at any time whilst the safety car is
deployed. This will apply whether any such car is being driven on the track, the pit entry or the
pit lane.
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#23946 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
Pa de poentiraj, je li Lewis prekrsio pravila ili ne?
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#23947 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
Par clanaka spominje tih deset duzina i razmak izmedju vodeceg i ostalih se spominje samo za period dok je SC aktivan, cim se da znak da SC ulazi u pit na kraju kruga, taj razmak vise nije relevantan._BataZiv_0809 wrote: ↑06/12/2021 10:43Ne kontam, de malo pojasni...zforumas wrote: ↑06/12/2021 10:41 Pravilo je za restart pod SC-om:
39.13 When the clerk of the course decides it is safe to call in the safety car the message "SAFETY CAR
IN THIS LAP" will be sent to all teams Competitors via the official messaging system and the car's
orange lights will be extinguished. This will be the signal to the teams Competitors and drivers
that it will be entering the pit lane at the end of that lap.
At this point the first car in line behind the safety car may dictate the pace and, if necessary, fall
more than ten car lengths behind it.
Josov mali se kurcio i na kraju ispao glup bespotrebno propustajuci Lewisa.
Mercedes opet takticki pobjedio
Znaci suma sumarum, cim se ugase svjetla na SC to pravilo vise ne vrijedi. Bilo da se radi o standing ili rolling startu.
FIA
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#23948 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
Nije!
Osim sto je opalio Maxa. ali to je drugi par opanaka
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#23949 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
Po meni jeste, i to dva clana
Previse je usporio tokom voznje iza safety cara i stvorio nepotrebnu kolonu iza sebe, drugo nije se drzao propisane distance. Ovo je generalno pravilo kad je safety car na stazi. Ono gore sto je on stavio je pravilo kada sefety car treba da se makne i da se utrka nastavi.
Glavno pravilo koje je on stavio je da prvo auto diktira tempo, a ne drugo, citav clan vazi samo za lidera a ne za sva auta, Lewis je diktorao tempo ostatku grida a nije bio prvi. Tu citav taj clan pada u vodu.
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#23950 Re: F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting
Nije sporno ukoliko ne prekoraci brzinu u pit lane-u