aurora313 wrote:Hakiz wrote:... I onda nije čudo što se religije kakve poznajemo formiraju upravo na područjima gdje se rađa poljoprivreda.
Economy, my dear Watson... što bi valjda mogao da kaže Šerlok.
Ništa se ne dešava bez viška domaćeg proizvoda koji se mogao odnijeti na pijacu i prodati, kako bi se kupilo ili zamjenilo za nešto što se nema. I tu su se mogli sresti kojekakvi putnici-prolaznici i pripovjedači, pa bi se ponešto novog ‘čulo‘ od interesantnih priča i predanja, do rezultata čudotvoraca i šamana svake vrste, ali i to kako i gdje kupiti radnu snagu.
A kada se vidjelo da vjera pomaže i promoviše robovlasništvo kao jeftinu doživotnu radnu snagu, broj vjernika se sigurno naglo povećavao. Taj se period istorije danas karakteriše kao ‘širenje vjerske istine.‘ Ovo je bilo posebno popularno u islamu koji se širio zahvaljujući robovlasničkom osvajanju (o drugim namjerama kao recimo o krađi i otimačini dobara, nećemo govoriti). Naravno, čućemo da tu nije dolazilo do upotrebe sile: mačeva, lanaca, ubijanja muških robova jer su pogodni pobuni... elem, sve je bilo divno i čisto jer sve je kao imalo za cilj da širi vjeru. Što je također bilo pogodno je činjenica da musliman nije mogao da bude rob, a kasnije ni druge vjere ukoliko su živjele pod šerijatom. Pa, ko ne bi bio ‘vjernik‘ u tim uslovima?
Ovo je bilo posebno popularno u islamu koji se širio zahvaljujući robovlasničkom osvajanju (o drugim namjerama kao recimo o krađi i otimačini dobara, nećemo govoriti).
kako covjece imas hrabrosti da pises ovakve gluposti a ja na forumu???
zar neznas da islam jako zagovara oslobodjanje robova, u raznim prilika se zagovara oslobodajanje robova i Bog nagradjuje sa Rajom one koje oslobodjaju robove...pa kako onda da pises kao da islam potstice robovlasnistvo a cijelo vrijeme zagovara oslobodjanje robova.
pa cak imaju smjernice onima koji su imali robova kako da se ponasaju prema njima, ma ko prema clanu familije po poslanikovim rijecima.
zamolio bi te da pazis sta pises sledeci put da ne pises gluposti na racun islama
zagovaranje Muhammeda i Kur'ana oslobodjanja robova
Kuran
Let us look at Noble Verse 2:177
"It is not righteousness that ye turn your faces Towards east or West; but it is righteousness to believe in God and the Last Day, and the Angels, and the Book, and the Messengers; to spend of your substance, out of love for Him, for your kin, for orphans, for the needy, for the wayfarer, for those who ask, and for the ransom of slaves; to be steadfast in prayer, and practice regular charity; to fulfil the contracts which ye have made; and to be firm and patient, in pain (or suffering) and adversity, and throughout all periods of panic. Such are the people of truth, the God-fearing."
Poslanik zagovara oslobodjanje robova
Narrated Abu Musa Al-Ash'ari:
"The Prophet said, "Give food to the hungry, pay a visit to the sick and release (set free) the one in captivity (by paying his ransom)." (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Food, Meals, Volume 7, Book 65, Number 286)"
Narrated Asma: "No doubt the Prophet ordered people to manumit slaves during the solar eclipse. (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Eclipses, Volume 2, Book 18, Number 163)"
"Zadhan reported that Ibn Umar called his slave and he found the marks (of beating) upon his back. He said to him: I have caused you pain. He said: No. But he (Ibn Umar) said: You are free. He then took hold of something from the earth and said: There is no reward for me even to the weight equal to it. I heard Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: He who beats a slave without cognizable offence of his or slaps him, then expiation for it is that he should set him free. (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Oaths (Kitab Al-Aiman), Book 015, Number 4079)"
a onima koji imaju jos uvijek robova u tom vremenu, daje smjernice kako se ponasati prema njima
Some teachings from Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him:
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
"When the slave of anyone amongst you prepares food for him and he serves him after having sat close to (and undergoing the hardship of) heat and smoke, he should make him (the slave) sit along with him and make him eat (along with him), and if the food seems to run short, then he should spare some portion for him (from his own share) - (another narrator) Dawud said:" i. e. a morsel or two". 4097. (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Oaths (Kitab Al-Aiman), Book 015, Number 4096)"
Narrated Al-Ma'rur: "
At Ar-Rabadha I met Abu Dhar who was wearing a cloak, and his slave, too, was wearing a similar one. I asked about the reason for it. He replied, "I abused a person by calling his mother with bad names." The Prophet said to me, 'O Abu Dhar! Did you abuse him by calling his mother with bad names You still have some characteristics of ignorance. Your slaves are your brothers and Allah has put them under your command. So whoever has a brother under his command should feed him of what he eats and dress him of what he wears. Do not ask them (slaves) to do things beyond their capacity (power) and if you do so, then help them.' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Belief, Volume 1, Book 2, Number 29)"
Narrated Anas: "
The Prophet said, 'None of you will have faith till he wishes for his (Muslim) brother [this includes slaves, since a slave is considered a brother as shown above] what he likes for himself.' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Belief, Volume 1, Book 2, Number 12)"
Narrated Abu Musa:
"Some people asked Allah's Apostle, 'Whose Islam is the best? i.e. (Who is a very good Muslim)?' He replied, 'One who avoids harming the Muslims with his tongue and hands.' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Belief, Volume 1, Book 2, Number 10)"
Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Amr:
"A man asked the Prophet, 'What sort of deeds or (what qualities of) Islam are good?' The Prophet replied, 'To feed (the poor) and greet those whom you know and those whom you do not Know.' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Belief, Volume 1, Book 2, Number 11)"