Sirija

[walter kurtz]

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk ... r?mbid=rss

Lebanon and the Start of Iran and Saudi Arabia’s Proxy War

[walter kurtz]

SYAAF ohladila 140 "civila" u tabqi

[walter kurtz]

"civili" opet prijete kurdima u aleppu dali su im neki rok od 48 sati kiki znas li ti sta o ovome

[sarajevoxxxx]

Povodom trogodišnjice Asadovog masakra nad sirijskim civilima u Huli u Homsu:

[walter kurtz]

Ovaj saudijsko turski savez osim kod idliba daje rezultate i na klixu pise se i u 5 ujutro

[sarajevoxxxx]

Nekad i sad

Post by Krushna mrva » 01/08/2013 01:15

Koliko procitah Vlada Sirije je usla nazad u Homs, kljucno mjesto, cime je vehabije stavila u vrlo tesku situaciju. GOvori se o kljucnoj podjedi i da do konacne pobjede fali samo grad na sjeveru Alepo

[japin_mutapi]

brkooooooo .... o brkooooooo

[lokalni_razdjevicar]

Ovaj saudijsko turski savez osim kod idliba daje rezultate i na klixu pise se i u 5 ujutro

ustale bradonje na sabah

[Kikibombona]

"civili" opet prijete kurdima u aleppu dali su im neki rok od 48 sati kiki znas li ti sta o ovome

Nisam vidio nista... Pretpostavljam da su se Kurdi prestali obazirati na konstantne prijetnje i ultimatume 'umjerenih'...

Jebena je to sorta stari moj. Od ISILa se razlikuju samo po metodama. Zehran Alus je otvoreno rekao da ce osloboditi Kobane od haridzija i kurdskih terorista. Sljam nevidjen, samo su ovi umjereni malo uhinjeni...

[GeneralBHF]

Do tada ce Asad da padne pa Rusija nece imati razlog da stavi veto sto ce otvoriti put direktno Amerima da se iskrcaju u Siriji.

[Herr Flick]

Eno Vice objavio video na youtubu sa "rebelima" iz Al Nusre o osvajanju JS I Idliba..Onaj ih uporno naziva rebels,da nije smijesno bilo bi zalosno



To su ti rebeli koji trebaju da oslobode Siriju

[cbrt]

Najnoviji prebeg iz SAA ka Nusri, Ariha...

[Klavikula]

i koliko se na kraju vojnika izvuklo iz bolnice u JS?

[atg51]

Ukratko, pobunjenicki malo duzi video, situacija nakon sto su pobunjenici pokrenuli ofanzivu i osvojili Idlib.
Ima tu svakakvog materijala, ako imate vremena pogledajte.

Na 5:25 videa prica neki lik sa maskom (abu Muhamed al ansari) i kaze slijedece:

"Hvala Bogu, napredujemo dobro, vecinu borbi su uradili braca imigranti iz Turkmenistana..."

https://youtu.be/d-2uvKfYGQ4

Ako "braca iz Turkmenistana" vode vecinu borbi na tlu Sirije, da li to znaci da su Siriju oslobodili ili okupirali?

[RepublikanskaGarda]

Zanimljiv članak, vrijedi pročitat

Feature: Syrian soldiers speak of "impossible escape" from al-Qaida besieged facility

LATAKIA, Syria, May 27 (Xinhua) -- They withstood heavy shelling and several suicide bombings for almost a month, but when they heard the drilling sound beneath them, hundreds of soldiers realized that it was about time to make an escape from their last facility in a northwestern city before the rebels could detonate a network of booby-trapped tunnels under them.

"We decided to withdraw from the National Hospital when we realized that the militants were digging tunnels beneath the hospital to blow it up. We used to hear the drilling sounds almost on daily basis and each day the sound would be heard under different rooms in what appeared to be the militants moving forward in their drilling," Ali, a Syrian soldier told Xinhua at the military hospital of Latakia city, where most of the Syrian soldiers who succeeded to withdraw from the National Hospital of the rebel-held Jisr al-Shughour city were taken.

Ali said the militants told them to surrender almost every day during the month-long siege "but we paid no heed to their warnings and threats."

"However when we heard the digging, we knew that we could do nothing about it and that we had to leave because we would either be killed in a possible blast or buried under the rubble," he said.

Escaping the National Hospital of Jisr al-Shughour city in the countryside of the northwestern province of Idlib was nearly impossible, as the facility was under siege from all directions by the militants, after the downfall of the entire city in April. The al-Qaida-linked Nusra Front and likeminded groups hadn't spared a chance to storm the facility and capture the soldiers and officers inside, either by heavy shelling, or sending suicide car bombers to rip through the gates.

But their attempts were rendered flat due to the strong fortification of the hospital and the good amount of ammunition the soldiers stored inside.

Between 450 and 500 soldiers and civilians were holed up in that hospital, which was subject to heavy shelling and explosions.

On May 22, the official Syrian TV said the Syrian army unit inside the hospital broke the month-long rebel siege, managing to secure a way out for tens of trapped soldiers to reach the nearest military point in Idlib under heavy fire cover by the Syrian air force and artillery.

The soldiers who reached the military points in Idlib were later taken to the military hospital of the coastal city of Latakia.

"Our mission to withdraw from the hospital was extremely difficult as we had to leave at 8 am with the armed militants everywhere around us from all directions," Ali recounted, saying he was among the first group leaving the hospital, as the army unit there decided to split as part of a military tactic.

"The armed militants spotted us and started shooting at us, injuring and killing many of our comrades," said the solider, who received a gunshot in his hand while he was retreating.

Ali said he and his comrades tried their best to maintain a high spirit when they were under siege, or even when the withdrawal operation started.

"I won't lie to you and say that our spirits were always high. Sometimes we feel stressed out... but we would always try to create a positive atmosphere, so we used to sing and dance as if we were at home."

However, the young soldier said his hope faded when a bullet pierced through his arm during the hours-long withdrawal.

"I was always hopeful that I would make it out and reach the military, but when I was shot in the hand, my hope is fading because I could no longer be able to use my rifle... any militant could have killed me," he said.

"When we got close to the military points, our comrades started covering us by shooting at the militants until my group could make it to the military post. We have reached the military position and it was like a new life has started," Ali said, wrapping us his story.

Laying down on a hospital bed with bandages, Haidar, another solider, told Xinhua that the majority of the militants who were attempting to attack the hospital were foreigners.

"Throughout the month-long siege, the terrorist groups were using all kinds of weapons, car bombs and artillery against us on daily basis. The majority of the militants were foreigners; Turks, Afghans, or Chechens... So these foreign groups were fighting, shelling us, and attempt to storm the hospital," he said.

He recounted how the Syrian soldiers would react when the rebels would send a booby-trapped vehicle to blow up the hospital.

"When we would hear the booby-trapped cars approaching, our marksmen would target the vehicles with RPGs and to confront any attempt of infiltration," he said.

Haidar said women and children were kept in the bottom floor of the hospital for their safety, adding that the food situation in the hospital was okay as they had supplies and Syrian aircrafts also made several air drops of food and weapons to the besieged soldiers in the hospital.

"We had food supplies in the hospital but we suffered a scarcity of drinking water and that was mostly difficult for children...," he said.

When the withdrawal moment inched closer, Haidar said the soldiers started encouraging one another.

"Our spirits were high and we used to encourage one another. We were fighting so that our lives won't be wasted in vain without doing something valuable for our homeland."

"We divided into several groups, the first was the road protection team, and the second was the civilian protection we fanned out in the orchards and fields and we provided a heavy fire cover to save the civilians and children who were among us," Haidar spoke of the battles of withdrawal.

"Our clashes in the fields and orchards were similar to those we were fighting in the hospital except the fact that the firing was so heavy and the clashes sometimes took place within short ranges. Sometimes the confrontations was taking place within less than a meter between the soldiers and the militants and they took us very long hours," Haidar said,

He recounted that he had received multiple gunshots in his hand, thigh and waist during the withdrawal process.

"But I was always thinking of hope, of victory, and of reaching the military point."

Qassem, another wounded soldier in Latakia's military hospital told Xinhua the battles of withdrawal were so tense and the direct confrontation lasted for a whole 13 hours.

"After we left the hospital, we took shelter in nearby buildings before we spilt into groups and started to make our way out... we didn't think we could reach the military posts... It was an impossible operation because it happened in broad day light," Qassem recounted.

The withdrawal of the Syrian forces from Jisr al-Shughour hospital has a special importance because President Bashar al-Assad vowed to help his troops out of there.

The oppositional Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said the soldiers managed to escape, but many of them died.

It said as many as 261 Syrian soldiers have been killed since the al-Qaida-linked militants unleashed their wide-scale offensive on the northwestern city of Jisr al-Shughour in Idlib province a month ago.

Ninety of those killed during the attacks of the Nusra Front and likeminded groups were officers, it added.

The UK-based watchdog group said the death toll include all those killed between April 22 and May 23, the day when tens of government forces managed to escape the National Hospital of Jisr al-Shughour, the last military position in that key city near the Turkish borders.

After the Syrian soldiers made their escape on May 22, the Nusra militants stormed the National Hospital, completing their control over the entire city of Jisr al-Shughour in the countryside of Idlib province, much of which fell to the Nusra and likeminded groups over the past two months.

[cbrt]

i koliko se na kraju vojnika izvuklo iz bolnice u JS?

Evo ti izveštaj Xinhua (prijateljski nastrojeni Kinezi)...tvrde kako je u bolnici bilo 450-500 vojnika i civila, kako su imali svega osim vode i sve to iz intervjua dvojice koja su uspela da se domognu svojih (obojica su izrešetana)...govore o nemogućem povlačenju u sred bela dana...ne govore o broju onih koji su se izvukli ali i to govori nešto...citiraju SOHR koji pominje desetine izvučenih...po svemu sudeći, ako je čitati između redova, masakr...

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015- ... 275168.htm

Sad vidim kako je kolega preneo celi članak ali neka ostane, ja sad dao link i pojedine komentare...pisali smo u isto vreme

[sarajevoxxxx]

Kurdske milicije nastavlaju sa napadima na arapska sela u Re'sul Ajnu.Kolone građana napuštaju svoje domove

[pjerino]

Kurdske milicije nastavlaju sa napadima na arapska sela u Re'sul Ajnu.Kolone građana napuštaju svoje domove

Kurdska vojska, YPG, nastavlja sa napadima na ISIS-ova uporišta odakle su prošle godine lansirani napadi na kurdsku enklavu oko Kobanea što je imalo za posljedicu izgon 400 000 kurdskih civila.

ISIS organizira evakuaciju stanovništva iz zone ratnih djelovanja...

[sarajevoxxxx]

Ukratko, pobunjenicki malo duzi video, situacija nakon sto su pobunjenici pokrenuli ofanzivu i osvojili Idlib.
Ima tu svakakvog materijala, ako imate vremena pogledajte.

Na 5:25 videa prica neki lik sa maskom (abu Muhamed al ansari) i kaze slijedece:

"Hvala Bogu, napredujemo dobro, vecinu borbi su uradili braca imigranti iz Turkmenistana..."

https://youtu.be/d-2uvKfYGQ4

Ako "braca iz Turkmenistana" vode vecinu borbi na tlu Sirije, da li to znaci da su Siriju oslobodili ili okupirali?

Strani borci učestvuju u vojnim operacijama i na jednoj i na drugoj strani.Također, i jedna i druga strana o tome ne govori, i nikad se ne objavljuju imena poginulih stranaca, imena njihovih brigada, nikad se ne govori o njihovom značaju u zauzimanju nekog grada, kote, sela.Uvijek i samo uvijek to su ''naši'' uradili, i ''naši'' samo ginu, stranci iako ponekad igraju značajnu, ili presudnu ulogu, o tome nikad zvanični režimski mediji ili mediji sirijske opozicije neće govoriti ili pisati.Nego baš ovako, tu i tamo neko se javi, procuri neki snimak, i to je to.Onu zadnju režimsku ofanzivu u Halebu, mislim da su spriječili Turkistanci, presudnu su ulogu odigraili.Bio je onaj dugi video snimak sa desetinama poginulih vojnika,Haleb News je ''izletio'' i objavio snimak sa Turkistancima u kojem se govori da su igrali značajnu možda i presudnu ulogu, a nedugo nakon toga snimak je nestao sa portala.

Isto tako, sve što je režim uradio zadnjih pola godine su one vojne operacije Iranaca u ''Trouglu smrti'' u Deri i Hezbolahova ofanziva na Kalamunu.

[sarajevoxxxx]

Poruka podrške sirijskih građana iz SAD-a kampanji ''Planeta Sirija'':

[cbrt]

Oni što su spasili Alepo bili su kosooki a ovi što su zauzeli Jisr Al Shughour bili su već sa evropskim crtama lica, cenim većinom Čečeni...gledao sam oba videa...ne vidim šta je sporno, ubedljivo su najbolji ratnici i retko kad ne uspevaju zato ih i šalju tamo gde je najteže...cenim da je 90% svih stranaca trenutno u ISIS-u...recimo SAA se i nije usrećila sa onim Hazarima (barem ja ne znam da jeste) a Hezbolah je ipak nešto drugo...ipak je tu organizacija, puno ih ima, naoružanje, iskustvo itd.

[JohnnyS]

Istini za volju, da se nisu slikali mogli bi doći na B listu Ministarstva domovinske sigurnosti...

[Kikibombona]

Kurdske milicije nastavlaju sa napadima na arapska sela u Re'sul Ajnu.Kolone građana napuštaju svoje domove

Nastavljaju napade na ISIL i zajedno sa arapskim jedincima poput al-Sanadin oslobadjaju arapska sela... Ljudi bjeze jer se vode zestoke borbe. Kada zlo bude istjerano iz njihovih sela, naravno da ce se vratiti...

[RepublikanskaGarda]

Oni što su spasili Alepo bili su kosooki a ovi što su zauzeli Jisr Al Shughour bili su već sa evropskim crtama lica, cenim većinom Čečeni...gledao sam oba videa...ne vidim šta je sporno, ubedljivo su najbolji ratnici i retko kad ne uspevaju zato ih i šalju tamo gde je najteže...cenim da je 90% svih stranaca trenutno u ISIS-u...recimo SAA se i nije usrećila sa onim Hazarima (barem ja ne znam da jeste) a Hezbolah je ipak nešto drugo...ipak je tu organizacija, puno ih ima, naoružanje, iskustvo itd.

Jel vidiš ti tu neku kontradikciju

[Kikibombona]

Poruka podrške sirijskih građana iz SAD-a kampanji ''Planeta Sirija'':

Ovo neko hipicima podvalio zastavu 'sirijske revolucije'

Inace, kada spominjete Turkmene, bice da se sa Kurdima nikako ne vole... Zajedno sa YPG se bore sve etnicke manjine, organizovane u grupe, sa vlastitim obiljezjima... Jedino nisam upratio da postoji turkmenska jedinica.... Vjerovatno ima pojedinaca, ali ne i organizovana grupa.

Inace, Turkmena ima dosta u regiji Gire Sipija... Kurdi im spocitavaju da su se priklonili ISILu, da su Turkmeni osnovali ISIL u toj regiji i protjerali Kurde... Nadam se da nece biti belaja kada YPG udje u to podrucje.