koliko je oboreno aviona NATO-a?

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Maloprije je na National Geographic Chanel u serijalu “Situation Critical” prikazana story o američkom pilotu, kapetanu Scott O’Grady-ju čiji su avion vojnici srpske vojske u Bosni oborili tokom ratnih operacija u Bosni 1995, godine. O’Grady je skupa sa još jednim pilotom učestvovao u akciji kontrole zabrane letenja nad bosanskim nebom kada je njegov avion pogodila raketa izbačena sa zemlje.

Emisija je napravljena u holivudskom stilu, forsirajući stalnu napetost i životnu ugroženost pilota koji je iskočio katapultitranjem sjedišta iz aviona. Tokom skoro šest dana Scott se skrivao u šumama oko Mrkonjić Grada, hraneći se lišćem i hvatajući vodu iz kiše. Srpske vojne i paravojne formacije su ga uporno tražile, ali je pilot ostao neotkriven sve dok nije uspostavio radio vezu sa svojim pilotima koji su ga tražili. Na kraju su ga Amerikanci u akciji aviona i helikoptera uspjeli pokupiti sa zemlje I bezbjedno prevesti u bazu u Italiju.

U emisiji je učestvovao i komadant srpskih oružanih snaga koji je na kraju emisije izjavio da mu je drago što se je O’Grady uspio spasiti, a dam u je krivo što je on kao komadant snaga koje su ga tražile, propustio da ga i nađu.

Smiješno je bilo da su srpski vojnici prilikom gađanja aviona raketama na rukavu nosili današnji grb Bosne i Hercegovine. Doduše kasnije su na kapama imali oznaku srpske vojske

Scott je u Americi dočekan kao heroj, primio ga je lično predsjednik Clinton. Kapetan O Grady je izjavio da ga je spasila ljubav prema bogu, prema porodici i prema Americi.

O svemu preživljenom kapetan je napisao u dvije knjige, a 2002 je na bazi ovog događaja bez njegove dozvole snimljen film: “Iza neprijateljskih linija”





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbCL7JxelKg


ova emisija me navela da potrazim odgovor koliko je zapravo oboreno aviona NATO-a iznad prostora bivse YU?[/url]
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I ja sam to gledao, i fino primjetio da rakete za obaranje aviona ne stoje u rukama federacije nego u onih koji su izvrsili genocid u rs-u, i fino vojnik na desnoj ruci ima brojanicu, kako sitni detalji puno govore, npr. evo vam rakete da ih drugi put dotucete, eeeee jaaa
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jooooooj jes mi bio glup taj dokumentarac...samo da naprave hollywood...najveca fora kad je cijedio vodu iz čarapa, a taj kraj gdje je on oboren ako je cime bogat,bogat je vodom...da ne govorim o voću i drugim jestivim stvarima...a oni prikazali k'o da je u pustinju Gobi oboren bio... :roll:

neam pojma koliko aviona...al znam da svi koji su bili oboreni su bili k'o na raji...npr onaj "nevidljivi" sto su ga na štoparicu skinuli
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Suicidal Siberian wrote:jooooooj jes mi bio glup taj dokumentarac...samo da naprave hollywood...najveca fora kad je cijedio vodu iz čarapa, a taj kraj gdje je on oboren ako je cime bogat,bogat je vodom...da ne govorim o voću i drugim jestivim stvarima...a oni prikazali k'o da je u pustinju Gobi oboren bio... :roll:

neam pojma koliko aviona...al znam da svi koji su bili oboreni su bili k'o na raji...npr onaj "nevidljivi" sto su ga na štoparicu skinuli



da, kad spomenu tog nevidljivog, nikad ni mi nije bilo jasno kako su ga oborili, ako je nevidljiv :-) :lol:
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saviola wrote:
Suicidal Siberian wrote:jooooooj jes mi bio glup taj dokumentarac...samo da naprave hollywood...najveca fora kad je cijedio vodu iz čarapa, a taj kraj gdje je on oboren ako je cime bogat,bogat je vodom...da ne govorim o voću i drugim jestivim stvarima...a oni prikazali k'o da je u pustinju Gobi oboren bio... :roll:

neam pojma koliko aviona...al znam da svi koji su bili oboreni su bili k'o na raji...npr onaj "nevidljivi" sto su ga na štoparicu skinuli



da, kad spomenu tog nevidljivog, nikad ni mi nije bilo jasno kako su ga oborili, ako je nevidljiv :-) :lol:
nevidljivim tajnim oruzjem, kako neznas :D
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Pa kako ga neće oboriti kad su srbi nebeski narod :D:D:D
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This is a list of NATO aircraft damaged and destroyed by the Yugoslav Air Force and Air Defence Forces (YuAF&ADF) during the aggression on Yugoslavia between 24 March and 6 June 1999. It does not include UAVs.




24.03 - 20:35 - near Titel
Historical event for both Yugoslav Air Force and MiG-29. Maj. Nebojša Nikolić (now Lt.Col.) shot down an F-16 before being shot down himself. This was the first kill of the war and the first by a MiG-29. He received the Medal for Bravery. It was also the first kill by the Yugoslav Air Force since WW2.

25.03 - 01:00 - Sarajevo, Bosnia (Rajlovac airfield)
USAF F-15E damaged in dogfight with MiG-21. Landed at Sarajevo airfield spewing thick smoke. Confirmed by NATO. The incident was confirmed by LtCdr Sheena Thomson of SFOR during a joint NATO-SFOR press conference on 03-25-99. You can read the complete transcript of the press conference here.

26.03 - 17:20 - village Donja Trnova, 15km southwest of Bijeljina, Republic of Srpska, Bosnia
USAF F-15E. Crew was killed. The plane was hit by an air-to-air missile near Lazarevac, fired by Slobodan Peric flying MiG-29A.

26.03 - Zrenjanin
A group of eight British Harrier fighter jets came under heavy AAA fire while on a mission over Yugoslavia on 26-03-99. All of the Harriers are said to have returned to the Gioia del Colle base. However, several aircraft are believed to have been heavily damaged. According to the British Ministry of Defence, the Harriers had to turn back to their base before completing their mission.

27.03 - 20:38 - Budjanovci
One USAF F-117A, serial number 82-0806/'HO' from 49th Fighter Wing, 8th Fighter Squadron, based at Holloman, New Mexico was shot down. Aircraft was shot down by Col. Gvozden Djukic's air defense unit (official report). According to NATO, pilot (Cpt. Ken 'Wiz' Dwelle callsign "Bandit 475") was rescued, but the fact is that Cpt. Dwelle wasn't even drafted for the war. He was at the Holloman AFB, New Mexico at the time of the shot down. New reports suggest that the mysterious pilot was Maj. Darrell P. Zelko, callsign "Bandit 338"

01.04 - 03:05 - Zagreb, Croatia
Emergency landing of one damaged F-117A. Event reported by Radio Zagreb of Croatia.

04.04 - Sarajevo, Bosnia (Rajlovac airfield)
According to Air Forces Monthly (June 1999, p. 92), one USAF F-16C from the 31st Fighter Wing made an emergency diversion to Sarajevo airport, Bosnia-Herzegovina

06.04 - 02.30 - Aleksinac
F-16. My cousin watched it fall to the ground.

06.04 - 23:37 - Vozdovac, Belgrade
Dogfight between Yugoslav Mig-21 and US F-15. F-15 crashed near Avala mountain. Confirmed by an eyewitness.

07.04 - 02:00 - Podgorica
French Mirage 2000. Missile missed but pilot ejected anyway.

07.04 - 23:55 - Novi Sad
Belgian F-16Bof Belgian 349sqn. 42 year old pilot and 28 year old female co-pilot captured. Plane was shot down by Aleksandar Sunjka with M-55A3B1 20mm AA gun.

16.04 - 23:30 - Skopje, Macedonia (Petrovec airfield)
Emergency landing of one heavily damaged USAF A-10 serial number 81-0984/'SP' from 52nd Fighter Wing, 81st Fighter Squadron. Plane was hit with two portable SAMs. According to NATO spokesman, aircraft suferred oil pressure failure and was diverted to Petrovec for an emergency landing.

19.04 - early morning - Sarajevo (Rajlovac airfield)
Emergency landing by one Danish F-16A. Plane was damaged by a SAM but according to NATO, it was due to a serious engine problem in the early hours of the morning while flying a combat air patrol mission to protect SFOR troops in Bosnia.

25.04 - Sarajevo, Bosnia (Rajlovac airfield)
According to Air Forces Monthly and confirmed by NATO, one USAF F-15 made an emergency landing escorted by another F-15, due to a faulty hydraulic pump (possibly caused by SAM hit).

30.04
An F-117A of the 49th Fighter Wing was damaged during strike mission by a nearby explosion of an SA-3 SAM, "...causing loss of part of the tail section, but the aircraft was able to return safely to Spangdahlem air base, Germany." (source: Air Forces Monthly, July 1999, p. 75)

01.05 - 14:15 - Adriatic Sea
One USMC AV-8B from 26th MEU / VMA-231 ditched in the Adtriatic, close to the amphibious ship USS Kearsarge (LHD-3). According to NATO it crashed after losing power while preparing to land on return from a 'training mission'. The pilot ejected safely and was recoverd by a helicopter from the ship after about five minutes in the water. Yugoslav ADF claimed a hit on an AV-8B over Kosovo that day prior to NATO announcement.

02.05 - 04:00 - Nakucani near Sabac
One USAF F-16CG serial number 88-0550/'AV' from 31st Fighter Wing, 555th Fighter Squadron "Triple Nickel" based at Aviano, Italy was shot down. Aircraft was downed by Col. Gvozden Djukic's air defense unit but NATO's report says it suferred an engine failure over Metlic, while returning from a combat mission and crashed near the village of Nakucani. The pilot (probably Lt.Col. Guy "Guide" Dahlbeck) ejected and was rescued 18 km east of Kozluk by an allied combat SAR team some two hours later and returned to Aviano in good condition.

02.05 - 18:00 - Skopje, Macedonia (Petrovec airfield)
Emergency landing of one USAF A-10A serial number 81-0967/'FT' from 23rd Fighter Wing, 74th Fighter Squadron. Many eyewitnesses reported that the aircraft appeared to have serious damage to one of its engines (right engine relative to the pilot) and a wing. Several missiles were still attached to the underwing pylons, creating a danger of explosion and a panic among local residents. The pilot of the aircraft was reported to have been injured. Some 40 minutes after the crash, the aircraft was towed by a NATO vehicle to the Petrovec airport.

05.05 - morning - 75km NE of Tirana, Albania
US Army AH-64A Apache from 12th Aviation Brigade/11th Aviation Group/C Troop/6th Squadron/6th Cavalry Regiment crashed. The pilot Chief Warrant Officer 3 David A. Gibbs and the gunner Chief Warrant Officer 2 Kevin L. Reichert were killed. According to a German newspaper Welt am Sonntag, NATO's classified report cited a SAM hit as a possible reason for the crash. Article here.

13.05 - 04:25 - Nova Pazova
One B-52H hit and damaged. Aircraft then headed toward Dobanovci where it crashed. 17 people killed.

17.05 - 15:30 - between Brestovik and Smederevo
One French Mirage 2000 that crashed on a highway Belgrade-Obrenovac. Pilot ejected and captured shortly after.

20.05 - 03:03 - Borca near Belgrade
One large NATO aircraft. Story confirmed by numerous eyewitnesses. At 06:00 news, a source from the federal ministry acknowledged the downing of one large NATO bomber. Later on, it was acknowledged that it was a B-52H Stratofortress. Interesting to notice is that according to spotters from Fairford airbase, UK, one B-52H, serial number 61-0020, assigned to 96th BS (part of 2nd BW at Barksdale, Louisiana) took-off that day but never came back.

30.05 - 00:30 - Ivanovo nr Belgrade
One aircraft (according to report from Romania, French Mirage 2000) hit with Strela-2M portable SAM. Plane jettisoned its fuel tank nearIvanovo and its armament near villages Idvor and Kovacica. Romanian sources say that the aircraft crashed near Temisoara in Romania.

31.05 - 14:10 - Sabac
One aircraft hit by a missile. Immediately after that, plane jettisoned its fuel tank and headed for Bosnia airspace. From the report of local villagers, plane crashed in the eastern part of Bosnia, near Bijeljina. By the remains of the fuel tank, the aircraft is an F-16. Whole incident was televized by RTS.

07.06 - 00:30 - area between Slankamen and Indjija
One large bomber was shot down. Witnesses claim that the aircraft had four jet engines. Aircraft managed to evade the first SAM, but exploded after a direct hit by a second one. Crew probably killed. Interesting to notice is that according to Fairford spotters, one B-1B, serial number 85-0074, assigned to 77th Bombing Squadron, 28th Bombing Wing, based at Ellsworth, South Dakota took-off but never came back.
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saviola wrote:evo iskopao sam neke podatke:
koji bullshit wahaha... :lol: ti stvarno vjerujes u ove slobine tripove ?! :lol:

srbi
http://www.yuairwar.com/gubici3.asp
nato
http://www.yuairwar.com/gubici5.asp


16.4.94
Sea Harrier
XZ498
899 Sqd RN Goražde, BiH Lt. Nick Richardson OK shot down with SA-7 Strela

2.6.95
F-16C
89-2032/AV
31FW/512FS Banja Luka, BiH Scot O'Grady OK hit by SA-6, pilot rescued after 7 days

29.8.95
Mirage 2000N
3-JA (346)
3/2 EC Pale, BiH Cpt. Frederic Chiffot, Lt. Jose Souvignot shot down with SA-7, crew POW

27.3.99
F-117
HO 88-2806
49FW/8FS Buđanovci, Serbia pilot OK shotdown by SA-3, pilot rescuedby CSAR

2.5.99
F-16CG
AV 88-0550
31FW/555FS western Serbia pilot OK shotdown by SA-6, pilot rescuedby CSAR
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saviola wrote:da, kad spomenu tog nevidljivog, nikad ni mi nije bilo jasno kako su ga oborili, ako je nevidljiv :-) :lol:

Debili letjeli desetak puta istom visinom, istom rutom. Smatrali su da srbi nemaju jaku AAA rasporedjenu u podrucju + ionako imaju nevidljivi avion. Prevarili su se. :D
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Prpa.ba wrote:
saviola wrote:da, kad spomenu tog nevidljivog, nikad ni mi nije bilo jasno kako su ga oborili, ako je nevidljiv :-) :lol:

Debili letjeli desetak puta istom visinom, istom rutom. Smatrali su da srbi nemaju jaku AAA rasporedjenu u podrucju + ionako imaju nevidljivi avion. Prevarili su se. :D
A onda je nastao onaj cuveni grafit: "Izvinite, nismo ga videli!". :D
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Alfons Kauders wrote:
saviola wrote:evo iskopao sam neke podatke:
koji bullshit wahaha... :lol: ti stvarno vjerujes u ove slobine tripove ?! :lol:

srbi
http://www.yuairwar.com/gubici3.asp
nato
http://www.yuairwar.com/gubici5.asp


16.4.94
Sea Harrier
XZ498
899 Sqd RN Goražde, BiH Lt. Nick Richardson OK shot down with SA-7 Strela

2.6.95
F-16C
89-2032/AV
31FW/512FS Banja Luka, BiH Scot O'Grady OK hit by SA-6, pilot rescued after 7 days

29.8.95
Mirage 2000N
3-JA (346)
3/2 EC Pale, BiH Cpt. Frederic Chiffot, Lt. Jose Souvignot shot down with SA-7, crew POW

27.3.99
F-117
HO 88-2806
49FW/8FS Buđanovci, Serbia pilot OK shotdown by SA-3, pilot rescuedby CSAR

2.5.99
F-16CG
AV 88-0550
31FW/555FS western Serbia pilot OK shotdown by SA-6, pilot rescuedby CSAR



hmm, licno znam da je '99. u mjestu kljajicevo kod sombora oboren americki avion, a njega nema na ovoj listi, prema tome, ne mogu da je prihvatim kao konacnu. :roll:

a sto se one prve liste tice, zanima me cime li su oboreni onoliki avioni iznad BiH u aprilu '92.- mozda prackama :lol:
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06.04 - 02.30 - Aleksinac
F-16. My cousin watched it fall to the ground.


Ovo je najrelevantniji podatak , rođak mu vidio kako pada F-16. :D
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Neregistrirani wrote:
Prpa.ba wrote:
saviola wrote:da, kad spomenu tog nevidljivog, nikad ni mi nije bilo jasno kako su ga oborili, ako je nevidljiv :-) :lol:

Debili letjeli desetak puta istom visinom, istom rutom. Smatrali su da srbi nemaju jaku AAA rasporedjenu u podrucju + ionako imaju nevidljivi avion. Prevarili su se. :D
A onda je nastao onaj cuveni grafit: "Izvinite, nismo ga videli!". :D

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saviola wrote:hmm, licno znam da je '99. u mjestu kljajicevo kod sombora oboren americki avion, a njega nema na ovoj listi, prema tome, ne mogu da je prihvatim kao konacnu. :roll:

Vecina ovih nabrojanih padova aviona su ustvari krstareci projektili koji su bili obarani. Mislis da srbi ne bi odmah prikazivali ostatke tih letjelica i zarobljene pilote? Naravno da bi, no nije ih bilo. Moguce je +- 2-3 aviona, no vise od toga je ludost. :D
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Prpa.ba wrote:
saviola wrote:hmm, licno znam da je '99. u mjestu kljajicevo kod sombora oboren americki avion, a njega nema na ovoj listi, prema tome, ne mogu da je prihvatim kao konacnu. :roll:

Vecina ovih nabrojanih padova aviona su ustvari krstareci projektili koji su bili obarani. Mislis da srbi ne bi odmah prikazivali ostatke tih letjelica i zarobljene pilote? Naravno da bi, no nije ih bilo. Moguce je +- 2-3 aviona, no vise od toga je ludost. :D

slazem se, ali ono u kljajicevu je bio avion, i to americki.

moj drug koji je bio pripadnik VJ u ratu '99. mi je pricao kako su avioni NATO-a jednom prilikom nadlijetali njihove polozaje. u jednom momentu PVO VJ koja je bila stacionirana blizu njega je otvorila vatru iz nekih boforsa i praga na avione. ovi su se vratili nakon nekoliko minuta i srucili tovar bombi na te polozaje. tad je poginulo 17 pripadnika VJ.

hocu da kazem da je to uistinu bila borba izmedju davida i golijata.
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saviola wrote: hmm, licno znam da je '99. u mjestu kljajicevo kod sombora oboren americki avion, a njega nema na ovoj listi, prema tome, ne mogu da je prihvatim kao konacnu. :roll:
posalji slike i zvanicni izvjestaj liku koji uredjuje stranicu... siguran sam da ce ga uvrstiti na spisak... :D ako ih imas... :D
a sto se one prve liste tice, zanima me cime li su oboreni onoliki avioni iznad BiH u aprilu '92.- mozda prackama :lol:
strele... 5 aviona za mjesec dana uopste nije puno... a vjerovatno si primjetio da su oboreni iznad teritorije koju je drzao HVO, odnosno HV, koji su u aprilu imali strele, za razliku od ARBiH...
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saviola wrote: slazem se, ali ono u kljajicevu je bio avion, i to americki.
vrsta, ser. broj, eskadrila ? :D
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Je li se ovo prica o bombardovanju i brzom trci u makedonsko selo da se sto prije potpise mir, nakon sto se jasno pokazalo da od junastva definitivno nista nema.
Jedini uspjeh nazovi avijacije je bio izvlacenje nekog pilota (jer isti nije mogao da sleti) helikopterom iz Posavine, informacija od oficira avijacije, jednog od najboljih.Kaze, oni koji su uspjeli da uzlete, nikada sletili nisu zajedno sa avionom.O PVO je takodje besmisleno pricati, nevidljivi je oboren uz pomoc brace, da bi braca pokazala da to jos uvijek mogu.Tema - komedija ziva.
Zna li neko, da li bi i jednog ranjenog na strani Nato-a????Osim onih povrijedjenih koji su lupili u gornji krevet prilikom ranog ustajanja u Italiji, onako bunovni.
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fantom slobode wrote:Je li se ovo prica o bombardovanju i brzom trci u makedonsko selo da se sto prije potpise mir, nakon sto se jasno pokazalo da od junastva definitivno nista nema.
Jedini uspjeh nazovi avijacije je bio izvlacenje nekog pilota (jer isti nije mogao da sleti) helikopterom iz Posavine, informacija od oficira avijacije, jednog od najboljih.Kaze, oni koji su uspjeli da uzlete, nikada sletili nisu zajedno sa avionom.O PVO je takodje besmisleno pricati, nevidljivi je oboren uz pomoc brace, da bi braca pokazala da to jos uvijek mogu.Tema - komedija ziva.
Zna li neko, da li bi i jednog ranjenog na strani Nato-a????Osim onih povrijedjenih koji su lupili u gornji krevet prilikom ranog ustajanja u Italiji, onako bunovni.

kakve brace, daj prevedi na nas ovo sto si napisao. :roll:


Alfons Kauders@ iznad BiH nije oboren nijedan avion JNA.
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saviola wrote:
Alfons Kauders@ iznad BiH nije oboren nijedan avion JNA.
U Cazinu je oboren jedan.
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saviola wrote:
fantom slobode wrote:Je li se ovo prica o bombardovanju i brzom trci u makedonsko selo da se sto prije potpise mir, nakon sto se jasno pokazalo da od junastva definitivno nista nema.
Jedini uspjeh nazovi avijacije je bio izvlacenje nekog pilota (jer isti nije mogao da sleti) helikopterom iz Posavine, informacija od oficira avijacije, jednog od najboljih.Kaze, oni koji su uspjeli da uzlete, nikada sletili nisu zajedno sa avionom.O PVO je takodje besmisleno pricati, nevidljivi je oboren uz pomoc brace, da bi braca pokazala da to jos uvijek mogu.Tema - komedija ziva.
Zna li neko, da li bi i jednog ranjenog na strani Nato-a????Osim onih povrijedjenih koji su lupili u gornji krevet prilikom ranog ustajanja u Italiji, onako bunovni.

kakve brace, daj prevedi na nas ovo sto si napisao. :roll:


Alfons Kauders@ iznad BiH nije oboren nijedan avion JNA.
Naravno Vehabija, zar si mogao da pomislis na neku drugu bracu :roll:
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Post by saviola »

F117 je oborila PVO VJ, to je bar jasno ko dan.


Mit o neoborivom američkom “nevidljivom” borbenom lovcu F117 A srušen je pre osam godina, kada su jedinice jugoslovenske vojske oborile taj avion tokom vazdušne intervencije NATO.

Avion F117A ili popularno nazvan “noćni soko”, koji je posle brojnih akcija u Libanu, Panami, Iraku stekao oreol “nevidljivog i neuništivog”, oboren je 27. marta u vojvodjanskom selu Budjanovci.

“Noćni soko” je izuzetnu reputaciju stekao borbenim letovima nad Irakom u Zalivskom ratu 1991.godine, kada je, po objavljenim podacima 1270 puta proleteo neprimećen nad iračkim radarima, u 39 borbenih misija.

F117 A konstruisan je u obliku brušenog dijamanta što je neuobičajno za letilice te namene, a u američkoj vojnoj terminologiji dobio je naziv “stelt” što na engleskom jeziku znači “krišom”, “u potaji”, ili “nevidljivi avion”.

“Noćni soko” je predstavljao simbol moći zbog savremene tehnologije kojom je opremljen, a što mu je omogućavalo da bude “nevidljiv” za sve radarske sisteme.

Avioni tog tipa konstruisani su sa oštrim uglovima koji predstavljaju skup krivina od kojih se odbijaju radarski zraci, a zahvaljujući sačinjenim specijalnim kompozitnim materijalima utiču da letilica ne bude registrovana na radaru.

Procedurom pre borbenog leta F117 A precizno se utvrdjuju lokacije radara i ubacuju se u kompjuter koji se zove “Elvira, gospodarica noći”, a on potom odredjuje maršrutu leta.

“Srbi su očigledno uspeli da nadmudre “Elviru”. Tri noći pre sudbonosnog leta F117 A avioni ’stelt’ leteli su praktično istom maršutom. Srbi su svaki dan pomerali radare, a uključivali ih samo na kratko, tek koliko je potrebno da se snime maršrute aviona koji dolaze, ali ne dovoljno da bi ih otkrio avion NATO za detektovanje”, piše njujorški list “Newsweek” jula 1999. godine, podseća Tanjug.

Nevidljivi baca bombeNjujorški list navodi da je četvrte noći, dok je F117 A bacao bombe na cilj nedaleko od Beograda, otvor za izbacivanje projektila na avionu na srpskim radarima počeo da šljašti tako da su Srbi brzo ispalili rakete i pogodili cilj.

Rušenje mita o “nevidljivom” izvela je 3. divizija 250. brigade Protivvazdušne odbrane kojim je komandovao pukovnik Zoltan Dani.

Dani i njegovi “raketaši” oborili su 27. marta u 20.42 minuta, zahvaljujući sposobnosti jedinice, ispravnoj tehnici i “maloj tehničkoj inovaciji”.

“Noćni soko” pao je u atar sela Budjanovci, pošto je prethodno gadjan sa dve rakete tipa “neva”.
F117 A je opremljen sa dva Dženeral elektrik F404 turbo motora i četvorostepenom kontrolom leta, nosi različito naoružanje, ima savremeni navigacioni sistem integrisan u digitalni pane u kabini koja pojačava efikasnost misije.

Cena tog aviona, po nameni - lovca, kojeg je od 1982. do 1990.godineproizvodila američka kompanija “Lokid”, iznosi 45 miliona dolara.

Avion je dugačak 20,3 metara, visok 3,8 metara sa rasponom krila od 13,3 metara,a postiže maksimalnu visoko nadžvučnu brzinu od 0,9 maha.
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saviola wrote:evo iskopao sam neke podatke:



This is a list of NATO aircraft damaged and destroyed by the Yugoslav Air Force and Air Defence Forces (YuAF&ADF) during the aggression on Yugoslavia between 24 March and 6 June 1999. It does not include UAVs.




24.03 - 20:35 - near Titel
Historical event for both Yugoslav Air Force and MiG-29. Maj. Nebojša Nikolić (now Lt.Col.) shot down an F-16 before being shot down himself. This was the first kill of the war and the first by a MiG-29. He received the Medal for Bravery. It was also the first kill by the Yugoslav Air Force since WW2.

25.03 - 01:00 - Sarajevo, Bosnia (Rajlovac airfield)
USAF F-15E damaged in dogfight with MiG-21. Landed at Sarajevo airfield spewing thick smoke. Confirmed by NATO. The incident was confirmed by LtCdr Sheena Thomson of SFOR during a joint NATO-SFOR press conference on 03-25-99. You can read the complete transcript of the press conference here.

26.03 - 17:20 - village Donja Trnova, 15km southwest of Bijeljina, Republic of Srpska, Bosnia
USAF F-15E. Crew was killed. The plane was hit by an air-to-air missile near Lazarevac, fired by Slobodan Peric flying MiG-29A.

26.03 - Zrenjanin
A group of eight British Harrier fighter jets came under heavy AAA fire while on a mission over Yugoslavia on 26-03-99. All of the Harriers are said to have returned to the Gioia del Colle base. However, several aircraft are believed to have been heavily damaged. According to the British Ministry of Defence, the Harriers had to turn back to their base before completing their mission.

27.03 - 20:38 - Budjanovci
One USAF F-117A, serial number 82-0806/'HO' from 49th Fighter Wing, 8th Fighter Squadron, based at Holloman, New Mexico was shot down. Aircraft was shot down by Col. Gvozden Djukic's air defense unit (official report). According to NATO, pilot (Cpt. Ken 'Wiz' Dwelle callsign "Bandit 475") was rescued, but the fact is that Cpt. Dwelle wasn't even drafted for the war. He was at the Holloman AFB, New Mexico at the time of the shot down. New reports suggest that the mysterious pilot was Maj. Darrell P. Zelko, callsign "Bandit 338"

01.04 - 03:05 - Zagreb, Croatia
Emergency landing of one damaged F-117A. Event reported by Radio Zagreb of Croatia.

04.04 - Sarajevo, Bosnia (Rajlovac airfield)
According to Air Forces Monthly (June 1999, p. 92), one USAF F-16C from the 31st Fighter Wing made an emergency diversion to Sarajevo airport, Bosnia-Herzegovina

06.04 - 02.30 - Aleksinac
F-16. My cousin watched it fall to the ground.

06.04 - 23:37 - Vozdovac, Belgrade
Dogfight between Yugoslav Mig-21 and US F-15. F-15 crashed near Avala mountain. Confirmed by an eyewitness.

07.04 - 02:00 - Podgorica
French Mirage 2000. Missile missed but pilot ejected anyway.

07.04 - 23:55 - Novi Sad
Belgian F-16Bof Belgian 349sqn. 42 year old pilot and 28 year old female co-pilot captured. Plane was shot down by Aleksandar Sunjka with M-55A3B1 20mm AA gun.

16.04 - 23:30 - Skopje, Macedonia (Petrovec airfield)
Emergency landing of one heavily damaged USAF A-10 serial number 81-0984/'SP' from 52nd Fighter Wing, 81st Fighter Squadron. Plane was hit with two portable SAMs. According to NATO spokesman, aircraft suferred oil pressure failure and was diverted to Petrovec for an emergency landing.

19.04 - early morning - Sarajevo (Rajlovac airfield)
Emergency landing by one Danish F-16A. Plane was damaged by a SAM but according to NATO, it was due to a serious engine problem in the early hours of the morning while flying a combat air patrol mission to protect SFOR troops in Bosnia.

25.04 - Sarajevo, Bosnia (Rajlovac airfield)
According to Air Forces Monthly and confirmed by NATO, one USAF F-15 made an emergency landing escorted by another F-15, due to a faulty hydraulic pump (possibly caused by SAM hit).

30.04
An F-117A of the 49th Fighter Wing was damaged during strike mission by a nearby explosion of an SA-3 SAM, "...causing loss of part of the tail section, but the aircraft was able to return safely to Spangdahlem air base, Germany." (source: Air Forces Monthly, July 1999, p. 75)

01.05 - 14:15 - Adriatic Sea
One USMC AV-8B from 26th MEU / VMA-231 ditched in the Adtriatic, close to the amphibious ship USS Kearsarge (LHD-3). According to NATO it crashed after losing power while preparing to land on return from a 'training mission'. The pilot ejected safely and was recoverd by a helicopter from the ship after about five minutes in the water. Yugoslav ADF claimed a hit on an AV-8B over Kosovo that day prior to NATO announcement.

02.05 - 04:00 - Nakucani near Sabac
One USAF F-16CG serial number 88-0550/'AV' from 31st Fighter Wing, 555th Fighter Squadron "Triple Nickel" based at Aviano, Italy was shot down. Aircraft was downed by Col. Gvozden Djukic's air defense unit but NATO's report says it suferred an engine failure over Metlic, while returning from a combat mission and crashed near the village of Nakucani. The pilot (probably Lt.Col. Guy "Guide" Dahlbeck) ejected and was rescued 18 km east of Kozluk by an allied combat SAR team some two hours later and returned to Aviano in good condition.

02.05 - 18:00 - Skopje, Macedonia (Petrovec airfield)
Emergency landing of one USAF A-10A serial number 81-0967/'FT' from 23rd Fighter Wing, 74th Fighter Squadron. Many eyewitnesses reported that the aircraft appeared to have serious damage to one of its engines (right engine relative to the pilot) and a wing. Several missiles were still attached to the underwing pylons, creating a danger of explosion and a panic among local residents. The pilot of the aircraft was reported to have been injured. Some 40 minutes after the crash, the aircraft was towed by a NATO vehicle to the Petrovec airport.

05.05 - morning - 75km NE of Tirana, Albania
US Army AH-64A Apache from 12th Aviation Brigade/11th Aviation Group/C Troop/6th Squadron/6th Cavalry Regiment crashed. The pilot Chief Warrant Officer 3 David A. Gibbs and the gunner Chief Warrant Officer 2 Kevin L. Reichert were killed. According to a German newspaper Welt am Sonntag, NATO's classified report cited a SAM hit as a possible reason for the crash. Article here.

13.05 - 04:25 - Nova Pazova
One B-52H hit and damaged. Aircraft then headed toward Dobanovci where it crashed. 17 people killed.

17.05 - 15:30 - between Brestovik and Smederevo
One French Mirage 2000 that crashed on a highway Belgrade-Obrenovac. Pilot ejected and captured shortly after.

20.05 - 03:03 - Borca near Belgrade
One large NATO aircraft. Story confirmed by numerous eyewitnesses. At 06:00 news, a source from the federal ministry acknowledged the downing of one large NATO bomber. Later on, it was acknowledged that it was a B-52H Stratofortress. Interesting to notice is that according to spotters from Fairford airbase, UK, one B-52H, serial number 61-0020, assigned to 96th BS (part of 2nd BW at Barksdale, Louisiana) took-off that day but never came back.

30.05 - 00:30 - Ivanovo nr Belgrade
One aircraft (according to report from Romania, French Mirage 2000) hit with Strela-2M portable SAM. Plane jettisoned its fuel tank nearIvanovo and its armament near villages Idvor and Kovacica. Romanian sources say that the aircraft crashed near Temisoara in Romania.

31.05 - 14:10 - Sabac
One aircraft hit by a missile. Immediately after that, plane jettisoned its fuel tank and headed for Bosnia airspace. From the report of local villagers, plane crashed in the eastern part of Bosnia, near Bijeljina. By the remains of the fuel tank, the aircraft is an F-16. Whole incident was televized by RTS.

07.06 - 00:30 - area between Slankamen and Indjija
One large bomber was shot down. Witnesses claim that the aircraft had four jet engines. Aircraft managed to evade the first SAM, but exploded after a direct hit by a second one. Crew probably killed. Interesting to notice is that according to Fairford spotters, one B-1B, serial number 85-0074, assigned to 77th Bombing Squadron, 28th Bombing Wing, based at Ellsworth, South Dakota took-off but never came back.



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#25

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saviola wrote:
fantom slobode wrote:Je li se ovo prica o bombardovanju i brzom trci u makedonsko selo da se sto prije potpise mir, nakon sto se jasno pokazalo da od junastva definitivno nista nema.
Jedini uspjeh nazovi avijacije je bio izvlacenje nekog pilota (jer isti nije mogao da sleti) helikopterom iz Posavine, informacija od oficira avijacije, jednog od najboljih.Kaze, oni koji su uspjeli da uzlete, nikada sletili nisu zajedno sa avionom.O PVO je takodje besmisleno pricati, nevidljivi je oboren uz pomoc brace, da bi braca pokazala da to jos uvijek mogu.Tema - komedija ziva.
Zna li neko, da li bi i jednog ranjenog na strani Nato-a????Osim onih povrijedjenih koji su lupili u gornji krevet prilikom ranog ustajanja u Italiji, onako bunovni.


kakve brace, daj prevedi na nas ovo sto si napisao. :roll:


Alfons Kauders@ iznad BiH nije oboren nijedan avion JNA.
Neum Novembar 1991 MIG 21 Stinger HOS-a.
NATO udari na Srbiju su najuspjeliji zracni udari u cijeloj historiji ratovanja.
Efikasnost PVO i zracnih snaga odbrane je bila ispod 0,01 % na broj letova.
Rado opet.
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