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#4201 Re: Avionske nesrece

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Cudi me da nije pomenuto uocavanje slicnog aviona na maldivima rano ujutro.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/11 ... -sight-spt

Isto tako nije spomenuto, mada nije neki conspiricy, Zapadno-Australijski over-the-horizon radar je bio iskljucen tih dana, radi popravke ili necega, koji bi mozda mogao detektovati avion.
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#4202 Re: Avionske nesrece

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Seawolf wrote:
Connaisseur Karlin wrote:....
Kako si inace, ja te tako volim vijeti na avio temi :thumbup: :-D
Dobro sam, hvala. Kako si mi ti?
strebam i pisem :D :-D ( imas pp od mene) :-D
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#4203 Re: Avionske nesrece

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https://www.faa.gov/news/media/attachme ... t_2019.pdf

odlican tekst , a sto reci, a da nije poznato, FAA potez :D
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#4204 Re: Avionske nesrece

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Bivši inžinjer tvrdi da putnici Boeinga 787 Dreamliner mogu ostati bez kisika u slučaju dekompresije

Barnett je otkio da se neke boce kisika nisu aktivirale kada su trebale, testirao je 300 sistema, a 75 nije radilo kako treba. To znači da je zatajilo 25 posto sistema. Njegovi pokušaji da se problem riješi bili su neuspješni, jer nije naišao na razumijevanje Boeingovih menadžera. On se 2017. godine žalio američkom regulatoru - Federalnoj administraciji za avijaciju, ali se ništa nije dogodilo jer je Boeing tvrdio da radi na rješenju problema.

To nije jedina Barnettova optužba jer on tvrdi da Boeing nije poštovao vlastite procedure i pratio dijelove tokom procesa sklapanja, zbog čega su neki neispravni dijelovi "izgubljeni" On tvrdi da su radnici pod pritiskom ugrađivali i dijelove iz kanti za smeće koji nisu zadovoljili standarde. To se dogodilo najmanje u jednom slučaju kada je to menadžer znao. On tvrdi da se tako radilo kako bi se uštedjelo na vremenu.

https://www.klix.ba/biznis/bivsi-inzinj ... /191106014
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#4205 Re: Avionske nesrece

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http://www.sullysullenberger.com/my-let ... -magazine/

Letter to the Editor
Capt. “Sully” Sullenberger
New York Times Magazine
Published in print on October 13, 2019

In “What Really Brought Down the Boeing 737 MAX?” William Langewiesche draws the conclusion that the pilots are primarily to blame for the fatal crashes of Lion Air 610 and Ethiopian 302. In resurrecting this age-old aviation canard, Langewiesche minimizes the fatal design flaws and certification failures that precipitated those tragedies, and still pose a threat to the flying public. I have long stated, as he does note, that pilots must be capable of absolute mastery of the aircraft and the situation at all times, a concept pilots call airmanship. Inadequate pilot training and insufficient pilot experience are problems worldwide, but they do not excuse the fatally flawed design of the Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System (MCAS) that was a death trap. As one of the few pilots who have lived to tell about being in the left seat of an airliner when things went horribly wrong, with seconds to react, I know a thing or two about overcoming an unimagined crisis. I am also one of the few who have flown a Boeing 737 MAX Level D full motion simulator, replicating both accident flights multiple times. I know firsthand the challenges the pilots on the doomed accident flights faced, and how wrong it is to blame them for not being able to compensate for such a pernicious and deadly design. These emergencies did not present as a classic runaway stabilizer problem, but initially as ambiguous unreliable airspeed and altitude situations, masking MCAS. The MCAS design should never have been approved, not by Boeing, and not by the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA). The National Transportation Safety Board has found that Boeing made faulty assumptions both about the capability of the aircraft design to withstand damage or failure, and the level of human performance possible once the failures began to cascade. Where Boeing failed, the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) should have stepped in to regulate but it failed to do so. Lessons from accidents are bought in blood and we must seek all the answers to prevent the next one. We need to fix all the flaws in the current system — corporate governance, regulatory oversight, aircraft maintenance, and yes, pilot training and experience. Only then can we ensure the safety of everyone who flies.

Capt. “Sully” Sullenberger

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#4206 Re: Avionske nesrece

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na današnji dan, prije 38 godina...
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#4207 Re: Avionske nesrece

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Ajaccio, Corsica, charter let JP 1308...
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#4208 Re: Avionske nesrece

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drndalo wrote: 01/12/2019 13:59 Ajaccio, Corsica, charter let JP 1308...
Miroslav Cerar je imao kartu za ovaj let, pa otkazao u zadnji čas zbog bolesti.
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#4209 Re: Avionske nesrece

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Ma i Boeing su malo precjenili.
Nedavno im je jedan 474 čini mi se , isto zakazao.
A što se tiče posade tu se često zna desiti dekoncentriranost ili slično. Najgore ono kad pilot i kopilot imaju iza sebe hiljadama sati leta, pa rutinska kontrola prije polijetanja zna kobno završiti. Tu najprije otkriti uzrok jer ako taj ima manu koliko ih zapravo takvih u ovom momentu leti sa istom ? :-) :run:
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#4210 Re: Avionske nesrece

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drndalo wrote: 01/12/2019 13:59 Ajaccio, Corsica, charter let JP 1308...
rođo, koliko si imao godina tad?
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#4211 Re: Avionske nesrece

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10-11-12... :roll:
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#4212 Re: Avionske nesrece

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Danas.

At least nine dead in South Dakota plane crash

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/south-dako ... 019-12-01/
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#4213 Re: Avionske nesrece

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Mislim da je ovo za Boeing najbolje rješenje .... Nakon tri uspješne generacije i jedne neuspješne generacije aviona Boeing 737, vrijeme je za potpuno novi avion:
The Boeing Future Small Airplane – A 737 MAX Replacement?

by Joanna Bailey, December 4, 2019

We’ve all heard about the NMA, Boeing’s new midsize airplane, dubbed the 797. But did you know there’s another pot bubbling on the stove too? The Future Small Airplane, or FSA, is a top-secret project that could produce a successor to the 737 MAX. Boeing has reportedly been discussing it quietly with some airlines around the world, but what do we know about the FSA so far?

Boeing are working hard to keep the details of this little jet under wraps, and clearly there is still a long way to go before it’s officially launched as part of its project lineup. However, there are a few things we can expect to see in any new iteration at the short-haul end of Boeing’s spectrum.

Firstly, we would expect it to sit in the middle to top end of the current 737 MAX specifications in terms of passenger capacity. Somewhere in the 180 – 220 passenger range would be likely, making it slightly more capacious than the MAX 8. Range wise, it would need to be a jack of all trades, capable of being efficient on those shorter, high-density routes, but also able to have fuel tanks added to extend its range and keep it competitive with the competition.

And when we’re taking competition, Boeing should be looking towards the Airbus’ A321XLR for the top end of its product line. Meeting the passenger capacity shouldn’t be too hard; a stretch on the 180 – 220 pax airframe should put it within the maximum passenger capacity of the A321neo of 240. The range, however, would be dependent on Boeing getting smart with the way the aircraft is built.

It’s unlikely Boeing would look to scale down the FSA, at least not to the extent of something like the 737 MAX 7. Anything less than 150 passengers is getting pretty close to what Embraer can accommodate with its largest E195, and with the Boeing Brasil thing poised to take off next year, the planemaker won’t want to cannibalize sales of either model with a new aircraft.

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Ostatak teksta se može pročitati ovdje:

https://simpleflying.com/boeing-fsa/
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#4214 Re: Avionske nesrece

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Seawolf wrote: 05/12/2019 10:08 Mislim da je ovo za Boeing najbolje rješenje .... Nakon tri uspješne generacije i jedne neuspješne generacije aviona Boeing 737, vrijeme je za potpuno novi avion:
The Boeing Future Small Airplane – A 737 MAX Replacement?

by Joanna Bailey, December 4, 2019

We’ve all heard about the NMA, Boeing’s new midsize airplane, dubbed the 797. But did you know there’s another pot bubbling on the stove too? The Future Small Airplane, or FSA, is a top-secret project that could produce a successor to the 737 MAX. Boeing has reportedly been discussing it quietly with some airlines around the world, but what do we know about the FSA so far?

Boeing are working hard to keep the details of this little jet under wraps, and clearly there is still a long way to go before it’s officially launched as part of its project lineup. However, there are a few things we can expect to see in any new iteration at the short-haul end of Boeing’s spectrum.

Firstly, we would expect it to sit in the middle to top end of the current 737 MAX specifications in terms of passenger capacity. Somewhere in the 180 – 220 passenger range would be likely, making it slightly more capacious than the MAX 8. Range wise, it would need to be a jack of all trades, capable of being efficient on those shorter, high-density routes, but also able to have fuel tanks added to extend its range and keep it competitive with the competition.

And when we’re taking competition, Boeing should be looking towards the Airbus’ A321XLR for the top end of its product line. Meeting the passenger capacity shouldn’t be too hard; a stretch on the 180 – 220 pax airframe should put it within the maximum passenger capacity of the A321neo of 240. The range, however, would be dependent on Boeing getting smart with the way the aircraft is built.

It’s unlikely Boeing would look to scale down the FSA, at least not to the extent of something like the 737 MAX 7. Anything less than 150 passengers is getting pretty close to what Embraer can accommodate with its largest E195, and with the Boeing Brasil thing poised to take off next year, the planemaker won’t want to cannibalize sales of either model with a new aircraft.

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Ostatak teksta se može pročitati ovdje:

https://simpleflying.com/boeing-fsa/
zvuci kao jeftina reklama :-) :lol:

amerikancima jednostavno treba novih aviona za regionalne i medjunarodne letove :)

MD je davno prestao godisnje prizvoditi vise od par aviona , Boeing nenma konkurencju na US trzistu :D
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#4215 Re: Avionske nesrece

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Connaisseur Karlin wrote: 05/12/2019 10:41
Seawolf wrote: 05/12/2019 10:08 Mislim da je ovo za Boeing najbolje rješenje .... Nakon tri uspješne generacije i jedne neuspješne generacije aviona Boeing 737, vrijeme je za potpuno novi avion:

https://simpleflying.com/boeing-fsa/
zvuci kao jeftina reklama :-) :lol:

amerikancima jednostavno treba novih aviona za regionalne i medjunarodne letove :)

MD je davno prestao godisnje prizvoditi vise od par aviona , Boeing nenma konkurencju na US trzistu :D
Kao reklama za Boeing, ili kao reklama za Airbus?
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#4216 Re: Avionske nesrece

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Seawolf wrote: 05/12/2019 13:26
Connaisseur Karlin wrote: 05/12/2019 10:41
Seawolf wrote: 05/12/2019 10:08 Mislim da je ovo za Boeing najbolje rješenje .... Nakon tri uspješne generacije i jedne neuspješne generacije aviona Boeing 737, vrijeme je za potpuno novi avion:

https://simpleflying.com/boeing-fsa/
zvuci kao jeftina reklama :-) :lol:

amerikancima jednostavno treba novih aviona za regionalne i medjunarodne letove :)

MD je davno prestao godisnje prizvoditi vise od par aviona , Boeing nenma konkurencju na US trzistu :D
Kao reklama za Boeing, ili kao reklama za Airbus?
losa reklama za Boeing , napisana od strane osobe koja nema nikakvog znanja o "sklapanju" aviona :lol:
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#4217 Re: Avionske nesrece

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Evo, i jedna od linija za bosanskohercegovački aerodrom će pasti kao žrtva neisporučivanja novih aviona Boeing 737 MAX, uslijed prizemljenja i usporavanja proizvodnje tog tipa aviona.

Naime, RYANAIR će ukinuti svoje baze u Nürnbergu (sa 2 aviona) i Stockholm-Skavsta (Nyköping)u (sa 4 aviona), a kao poslijedica ovoga drugoga, od početka ljetnog reda letenja 2020-e, ukinut će se linija Stockholm - Banja Luka - Stockholm:

https://centreforaviation.com/members/d ... a-4-504923

Inače, specijalno za RYANAIR je razvijena posebna varijanta aviona Boeing 737 MAX-8, označena sa 737 MAX-200, kod koje je na istu dužinu trupa dodan još jedan par izlaza, a sjedišta su "zgusnuta" tako da je ukupan broj sjedišta za putnike kod ove varijante 197.

RYANAIR je sa Boeing-om ugovorio isporuku 135 ovakvih aviona, a do sada je proizveden samo jedan (koji, naravno, ne leti, zbog prizemljenja).
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#4218 Re: Avionske nesrece

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Uprava korporacije Boeing, razmatra da privremeno potpuno obustavi proizvodnju 737 MAX:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-boei ... SKBN1YK01T

Naslagalo se puno proizvedenih aviona, a FAA je obznanio da ne namjeravaju povući odluku o prizemljenju toga tipa prije kraja kalendarske godine, dakle suprotno od onoga što su nas uvjeravali iz Boeing-a.
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#4219 Re: Avionske nesrece

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Mozda ih ucijenjivaju...
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#4220 Re: Avionske nesrece

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E bas su ga zabiberili ovi ultra-kapitalisti kojima $(rezanje troskova na sigurnosti i testiranju pri proizvodnji...) iz ociju vire...

Boeing će obustaviti proizvodnju modela 737 Max u januaru 2020 .godine

https://www.klix.ba/biznis/boeing-ce-ob ... /191216175

Lijepa Evropa i silni rigorozni propisi, sankcije, tuzbe protiv giganata, borba protiv monopola...
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Mozda ti bas poredjenje sa monopolima u ovom slucaju nije najsretnije, iako se sa vecinom ostalog slazem...
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#4222 Re: Avionske nesrece

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Seawolf wrote: 16/12/2019 16:18 Uprava korporacije Boeing, razmatra da privremeno potpuno obustavi proizvodnju 737 MAX:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-boei ... SKBN1YK01T

Naslagalo se puno proizvedenih aviona, a FAA je obznanio da ne namjeravaju povući odluku o prizemljenju toga tipa prije kraja kalendarske godine, dakle suprotno od onoga što su nas uvjeravali iz Boeing-a.
FAA je glavni uzrocnik katastrofe !!!
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Koliko je Boeing u k**** vidjelo se jucer kad su lansirali svoju svemirsku letjelicu :mrgreen: ...kao ono nije bio naštiman sat :mrgreen:
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#4224 Re: Avionske nesrece

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Bobi wrote: 21/12/2019 11:20 Koliko je Boeing u k**** vidjelo se jucer kad su lansirali svoju svemirsku letjelicu :mrgreen: ...kao ono nije bio naštiman sat :mrgreen:
Bobi, ovdje imas updates :

https://www.nasa.gov/nasalive

https://starlinerupdates.com/

https://starlinerupdates.com/boeing-upd ... ht-test-2/

https://starlinerupdates.com/boeing-ast ... employees/
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#4225 Re: Avionske nesrece

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Bobi wrote: 21/12/2019 11:20 Koliko je Boeing u k**** vidjelo se jucer kad su lansirali svoju svemirsku letjelicu :mrgreen: ...kao ono nije bio naštiman sat :mrgreen:
Kazu iz SpaceX-a da ce rado pomoci, oni su vec 18 puta bili gore :lol:
Koji prc :oops:
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