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Kabul University: 22 dead, more wounded as gunmen storm campus

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-54750839

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Lijepo je neko obrisao post! Svaka čast! :thumbup:
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aldinjo wrote: 03/11/2020 18:25 Lijepo je neko obrisao post! Svaka čast! :thumbup:
Vjerovatno si opet dao podršku ubicama talibanima. :thumbup:
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https://edition.cnn.com/2021/04/13/poli ... index.html

Biden to announce withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan by September 11


To je to, 20 godina.
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Konacno
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Ostaje da vidimo sta ce Talibani uraditi sledece.
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AleksoMKD wrote: 15/04/2021 09:51 Ostaje da vidimo sta ce Talibani uraditi sledece.
Sta im Pakistan kaze. Vjerovatno ce sa vremenom opet preuzeti drzavu.
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Haris.ba wrote: 15/04/2021 10:13 Vjerovatno ce sa vremenom opet preuzeti drzavu.
Najverovatnije.

Ostaje da se vidi dali ce uci prvo u vlast ko IRA ili ce tradicionalno borbom.
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AleksoMKD wrote: 15/04/2021 12:31
Haris.ba wrote: 15/04/2021 10:13 Vjerovatno ce sa vremenom opet preuzeti drzavu.
Najverovatnije.

Ostaje da se vidi dali ce uci prvo u vlast ko IRA ili ce tradicionalno borbom.
Tradicionalno borbom...tuzno je konstatovati da amerika ne zna sta ce sa sobom...ko Sajgon 74.
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General War wrote: 15/04/2021 19:13 Tradicionalno borbom...tuzno je konstatovati da amerika ne zna sta ce sa sobom...ko Sajgon 74.
Neverojatno je da sada Talibani kontrolisu vise teritorije nego pre intervencije Amerike.
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AleksoMKD wrote: 20/04/2021 10:43
General War wrote: 15/04/2021 19:13 Tradicionalno borbom...tuzno je konstatovati da amerika ne zna sta ce sa sobom...ko Sajgon 74.
Neverojatno je da sada Talibani kontrolisu vise teritorije nego pre intervencije Amerike.
Pa ne bas, svi veci gradovi su pod kontrolom avganistanske vlade, ali ono izmedju pustahije kontrolisu talibani...sto ce se promjeniti naravno kad se amerikanci povuku
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General War wrote: 20/04/2021 11:59 Pa ne bas, svi veci gradovi su pod kontrolom avganistanske vlade, ali ono izmedju pustahije kontrolisu talibani...sto ce se promjeniti naravno kad se amerikanci povuku
Ako se dobro secam, post Sovjetska vlada Avganistana je nekako opstala 2 - 3 godine posle povlacenja Sovjeta.
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AleksoMKD wrote: 20/04/2021 13:20
General War wrote: 20/04/2021 11:59 Pa ne bas, svi veci gradovi su pod kontrolom avganistanske vlade, ali ono izmedju pustahije kontrolisu talibani...sto ce se promjeniti naravno kad se amerikanci povuku
Ako se dobro secam, post Sovjetska vlada Avganistana je nekako opstala 2 - 3 godine posle povlacenja Sovjeta.
Mislim da je to za Kabul...kasnije kad su usli nije dugo trebalo kad su objesili predsjednika.
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General War wrote: 20/04/2021 13:38 Mislim da je to za Kabul...kasnije kad su usli nije dugo trebalo kad su objesili predsjednika.
Fakticki dok god je bilo goriva i delova za avione i helikoptere nekako su se drzali. Cim je nestalo toga (t.j Sovjetske pomoci) i poceli medjusobni obracuni.......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghan_Ci ... 80%931992)

Internal dissensions

Despite its military successes, the communist regime of President Mohammad Najibullah was still plagued by its traditional internal divisions, namely the opposition between the Khalq and Parcham factions.

The DRA defense minister, Shahnawaz Tanai, disagreed with Najibullah's policy of National Reconciliation with the mujahideen. Also he had become convinced that his Khalq faction was losing its share of power in favour of Najibullah's Parcham. For these reasons he entered in secret negotiations with Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, and plotted against Najibullah. Launched on 6 March 1990, his coup failed, despite almost killing Najibullah, and Tanai was forced to flee to Pakistan, where he joined Hekmatyar. A severe repression followed, as Najibullah ordered the army to be purged of Tanai's supporters. In the ensuing fighting, several airports were bombarded, damaging 46 military aircraft.[26] This episode reinforced Najibullah's suspicions and led him to govern through his personal allies rather than the government apparatus, further deepening the rift between Khalqis and Parchamis.
Economic crisis

By 1992, Afghanistan was in dire straits. Reserves of natural gas, Afghanistan's only export, had dried out since 1989, rendering the country completely dependent on Soviet aid. This amounted to 230,000 tons of food per year, but by 1991, the Soviet economy was itself faltering, preventing the Soviets from fulfilling their commitments.

In August 1991, following his arrival in power, Boris Yeltsin announced that all direct assistance to Najibullah's regime would be curtailed. In January 1992, the Afghan Air Force, which had proved vital to the survival of the regime, could no longer fly any aircraft for lack of fuel. The army suffered from crippling food shortages, causing the desertion rate to rise by 60 percent between 1990 and 1991.[26]


The pro-government militias that had grown to replace the army in many of its assignments, were faithful to the regime only so long as it could deliver enough weapons to enable them to conserve their power. With the end of the Soviet aid, the government could no longer satisfy these demands, and the loyalty of the militias began to waver.

Finally, after negotiations between communist General Abdul Rashid Dostum and Ahmad Shah Massoud, the Junbish militia defected to the mujahideen. This reversal of fortunes effectively turned the tables in favor of the resistance, and forced Najibullah to resign.[27]
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turgut wrote: 01/05/2021 10:26 intenziviraju se borbe u Afganistanu, na svim frontovima.

ako se Amerikanci povuku režimske snage neće izdržati ni tri mjeseca nakon povlačenja USA trupa.
Pa nek' se onda Rusi samo spuste i održavaju državu bez krvoprolića
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Ma još godina i talibani preuzimaju.
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Krenuli su jbg
To je sudbina afganistana...

Nista se ne moze ba silu...pa nije mijenjati unutarnje odnose
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Narod koji nije spreman da se bori za svoju slobodu...zasluzuje svoje gospodare
Imali su 20 godina da se uvjezbaju i poraze talibane
Odvazni vladaju
Gdje su sad oni ameri ato su slavili jedan tomahavk jedan taliban...gomile videa raketiranja talibana rezultat imamo danaa
Ideologija se ne pobjedjuje bombama
U ovom slucaju ni edukacija

Neke zemlje jednostavno nije im sudjeno da posalju opremu na mars
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Kakvi su ovo nesposobni glupani kad ih kozojebi poput talibana razjebu za dva dana.
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Point. wrote: 08/05/2021 23:50 Kakvi su ovo nesposobni glupani kad ih kozojebi poput talibana razjebu za dva dana.
Avganistan je pustahija, ovo sto osvoje su udaljene male vojne baze sastavljene od vojnika iz drugih plemena koji zavise od pojacanja par stotina kilometara dalje, nije tesko to osvojiti...vojska se skupi, talibani zbrisu u planinu i cekaju da se povuku...nista cudno.
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Black swan wrote: 08/05/2021 23:19 Narod koji nije spreman da se bori za svoju slobodu...zasluzuje svoje gospodare
Imali su 20 godina da se uvjezbaju i poraze talibane
Odvazni vladaju
Gdje su sad oni ameri ato su slavili jedan tomahavk jedan taliban...gomile videa raketiranja talibana rezultat imamo danaa
Ideologija se ne pobjedjuje bombama
U ovom slucaju ni edukacija

Neke zemlje jednostavno nije im sudjeno da posalju opremu na mars
Dao si sam sebi odgovor, zasto nemogu poraziti talibane...jer im je ideologija zasnovana na rigidnom islamu puno bolja, nego putevi i ekonomija. Cuj da ti nekom sprijecis da se zeni sa djevojcicom od 10 godina, naravno da je za puske :D
Ja nikad samo nisam dobio od njih odgovor, odkud talibanima toliko oruzja kad je sve pokupljeno sto se moglo pokupiti 2001-2007...nece da kazu otovreno da se Pakistan ne naljuti. :D
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General War wrote: 09/05/2021 00:19
Point. wrote: 08/05/2021 23:50 Kakvi su ovo nesposobni glupani kad ih kozojebi poput talibana razjebu za dva dana.
Avganistan je pustahija, ovo sto osvoje su udaljene male vojne baze sastavljene od vojnika iz drugih plemena koji zavise od pojacanja par stotina kilometara dalje, nije tesko to osvojiti...vojska se skupi, talibani zbrisu u planinu i cekaju da se povuku...nista cudno.
Ameri su tu još od vremena Windows 95, mogli su od tih klošara napraviti parking davnih dana.
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Point. wrote: 09/05/2021 00:25
General War wrote: 09/05/2021 00:19
Point. wrote: 08/05/2021 23:50 Kakvi su ovo nesposobni glupani kad ih kozojebi poput talibana razjebu za dva dana.
Avganistan je pustahija, ovo sto osvoje su udaljene male vojne baze sastavljene od vojnika iz drugih plemena koji zavise od pojacanja par stotina kilometara dalje, nije tesko to osvojiti...vojska se skupi, talibani zbrisu u planinu i cekaju da se povuku...nista cudno.
Ameri su tu još od vremena Windows 95, mogli su od tih klošara napraviti parking davnih dana.
Napravili su kad su na okupu ali tesko ih pohvatat kad se rastrkaju, nema sta nisu probali...ali bez 100 000 vojnika ne mozes drzat teritoriju...a vladine snage korumpirane do zla boga.
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