11.septembar , ''01 .

[Vozdra_123]

RIP nevinima koji su poginuli na danasnji dan prije 5 godina i onima koji su izginuli od tada

ja cu samo postaviti 3 pitanja
1. koliko dugo se ganja karadzic?
2. koliko dugo se ganja bin?
3. koliko dugo se ganjao sadam?

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Ugledni forum analiticari

ako ste tako efikasno apsolvirali 11. sept., fino skupili sve glasine na internetu, mozete li molim vas objasniti ko je onda pocinio napade u Spaniji 2004. godine? Londonu prosle godine? Ostrvu Bali? U Keniji prije 2001. godine?

Uzivio sam se u vasu paranoidno-alternativnu istoriju, drma sine, zacas dan prodje u kovanju teorija zavjera, super stvar! Hvala sto ste mi oci otvorili. Sad vjerujem cak i u bosansku dolinu piramida, jos samo mi ovo potvrdite: Jel'de da su za sve teroristicke napade Amerikanci krivi?

Jedan od primjera kada covjek cita - a u sustini ne cita jer ima u startu slozenu pricu koju hoce da isprica! Mala uputa za ponovno citanje - govorim o nejasnocama oko napada na Pentagon!
P-e-n-t-a-g-o-n!
Ne o WTC ili nekim drugim mjestima teroristickih napada...

[Nosferatu]

Ugledni forum analiticari

ako ste tako efikasno apsolvirali 11. sept., fino skupili sve glasine na internetu, mozete li molim vas objasniti ko je onda pocinio napade u Spaniji 2004. godine? Londonu prosle godine? Ostrvu Bali? U Keniji prije 2001. godine?

Uzivio sam se u vasu paranoidno-alternativnu istoriju, drma sine, zacas dan prodje u kovanju teorija zavjera, super stvar! Hvala sto ste mi oci otvorili. Sad vjerujem cak i u bosansku dolinu piramida, jos samo mi ovo potvrdite: Jel'de da su za sve teroristicke napade Amerikanci krivi?

Nijedan od ovih napada - ni po cemu - ni izbliza - ne odgovara umjestnosti koja je pokazana u 9-11.

U Spaniji torbacima - digli kompoziciju vozova..

U Londonu pukla dva autobusa na sprat.

U Istambulu - neko bacio bombu na UK ambasadu.

U Israelu - dvojica UK muslimana - usla u klub/bar i digla se u vazduh.

U Mostaru - auto bomba ex-mujjahida u BiH.

Terorizma je bilo i bice. Ali - sasvim je jedna stvar - postaviti negdje bombu. Sasvim druga - oteti 500 ljudi sa plasticnim nozevima pa ih zabiti u cetiri najelitnija simbola Americkog imperijalizma.

Napada na WTC 1993-ce godine - je bio teroristicki napad. Napad na Oklahomu je bio teroristicki napad. Napad na ambasadu u Keniji je bio teroristicki napad. Napad na ambasdu Tanzanije je bio teroristicki napad. Napad na USS Cole - je bio teroristicki napad.

Jel - pocinjes da uvidjas razliku?

Napad na Spaniju - nije izazvao nijedan rat.
Napad na Tursku - nije izazvao nijedan rat.
Napad na Englesku - nije izazvao nijedan rat.
Napad na US ambasadu u Keniji, Tanzaniji, US Cole, WTC 1993, Oklahoma i svi drugi napadi - nisu izazvali dva rata niti su doveli do potpisivanja i sprovodenja tri protu-ustavna zakona s kojima se slobodna Amerika svodi na policijsku drzavu.

Niko nije rekao - da terorizma nema i nije ga bilo.

Ali 9-11 na jednu stranu a sve drugo - na drugu. Terorizam ni do dana danasnjeg - nije umanjen niti otklonjen. Ali - su postignuti neki drugi ciljevi - kojih obican covjek nije ni bio svjestan.

Osim toga 1991-9-11 - u svojoj predsjednickoj adresi - George Herbet Bush je najavio - formiranje Novog Svijetskog poretka. To je 10 godina - prije 9-11-2001. I zasto bas 9-11? Ovaj broj - jedino u Americi ima simboliku - pozivnog broja - za emergency. 3057 ljudi je poginulo u par sat. Od 9 ujutro do 12 popodne. Vec tada se je znalo - da je na pomolu 3 svjetski rat.

I jos nesto. Ovo nije prvi put - da je Amerika znala za napad - i nije ucinila nista. Po prvi put je to ucinjeno u Peral Harboru. Punih 7 dana prije tog napada - novine na Hawaima su najavljivale napad Japanse flote i eskadrile na cijelu Americku flotu - koja je bila ukvotljena tamo - al' nije se niko na to pretjerano obazirao jer - su mislili da avioni jednostavno nemaju dovoljan dijapazon da mogu sa najblizek otoka pod Japanskom kontrolom doletiti do Hawaii i vratiti se. To ih je i skupo kostalo. Nakon ovog napada - Amerika je usla u 2 svijetski rat. I postala - najjaca sila na svijetu. Od jedne agrarne zemlje - industrijalizovana. Od zemlje u nedavnoj depresiji - zemlja u kojoj je sve i jedan covjek bio zaposlen - u fabrikama smrti.

A najveci teroristicki napad - ikad izveden je onaj - na Hiroshimu i Nagasaki. To neka je jasno - svima nama ovdje. Da se ne lazemo.

[Hamo.]

I jos nesto. Ovo nije prvi put - da je Amerika znala za napad - i nije ucinila nista. Po prvi put je to ucinjeno u Peral Harboru. Punih 7 dana prije tog napada - novine na Hawaima su najavljivale napad Japanse flote i eskadrile na cijelu Americku flotu - koja je bila ukvotljena tamo - al' nije se niko na to pretjerano obazirao jer - su mislili da avioni jednostavno nemaju dovoljan dijapazon da mogu sa najblizek otoka pod Japanskom kontrolom doletiti do Hawaii i vratiti se. To ih je i skupo kostalo. Nakon ovog napada - Amerika je usla u 2 svijetski rat. I postala - najjaca sila na svijetu. Od jedne agrarne zemlje - industrijalizovana. Od zemlje u nedavnoj depresiji - zemlja u kojoj je sve i jedan covjek bio zaposlen - u fabrikama smrti.

Mislim, vidio sam koliko ste naivni po prijasnjim postovima, ali ovo.... Bilo bi smjesno da nije uzasno tuzno. "Amerika je namjestila citav Drugi svjetski rat haman tacno tako da zaposli svoje ljude, sve su znali (a u kasike nisu gledali)"... Pa stvarno nisi mogao gluplju stvar sloziti, ali i time svima uciniti ogromnu uslugu -- da svi vide sa kakvim paranoidnim bilmezom imaju posla.

jos jednom, fala njosferhatu!

[DaysleepeR]

Nosferatu svaka cast na detaljima.

Iako i sam sklon vecini stvari iz ove teorije zavjere moram ti replicirati za tezu kako se nijedna zgrada u Sarajevu tokom rata nije srusila nakon sto je izgorila.

Ipak jeste.

Zgrada Oslobodjenja se spljeskala kao WTC nakon sto je izgorila od granatiranja.

[Nosferatu]

I jos nesto. Ovo nije prvi put - da je Amerika znala za napad - i nije ucinila nista. Po prvi put je to ucinjeno u Peral Harboru. Punih 7 dana prije tog napada - novine na Hawaima su najavljivale napad Japanse flote i eskadrile na cijelu Americku flotu - koja je bila ukvotljena tamo - al' nije se niko na to pretjerano obazirao jer - su mislili da avioni jednostavno nemaju dovoljan dijapazon da mogu sa najblizek otoka pod Japanskom kontrolom doletiti do Hawaii i vratiti se. To ih je i skupo kostalo. Nakon ovog napada - Amerika je usla u 2 svijetski rat. I postala - najjaca sila na svijetu. Od jedne agrarne zemlje - industrijalizovana. Od zemlje u nedavnoj depresiji - zemlja u kojoj je sve i jedan covjek bio zaposlen - u fabrikama smrti.

Mislim, vidio sam koliko ste naivni po prijasnjim postovima, ali ovo.... Bilo bi smjesno da nije uzasno tuzno. "Amerika je namjestila citav Drugi svjetski rat haman tacno tako da zaposli svoje ljude, sve su znali (a u kasike nisu gledali)"... Pa stvarno nisi mogao gluplju stvar sloziti, ali i time svima uciniti ogromnu uslugu -- da svi vide sa kakvim paranoidnim bilmezom imaju posla.

jos jednom, fala njosferhatu!

Pa ti si maskota od covjeka.

Znas li ti da je rat - najprofitabilniji i najprogresivnije vrijeme u istoriji covjeka i jedne zemlje, koja taj rad pobjedi? Kad ti mislis - da se je Amerika nametnula - kao sila u svijetu? U periodu mira? Kad mislis - da se je ukljucila u borbu - za svjetski poredak? Sto je Amerika - napravila od Njemacke i Japana - 2 i 3-cu ekonomiju na svijetu, nakon sto ih je srusila do temelja?

Sto se Busha tice - znas li da je njegov - predajed bio spoznor Treceg Rajha. Covjek je bio bankar i jednako tako i senator - u Americkoj vladi. Tokom rata je bio - osudjen i procesiran za izdaju. Bez finansija banke i bizinsa - koje je vodio - upitno je da li bi Treci rajh - ikada osvojio vlast u Njemackoj.

Documents in National Archives Prove
George W. Bush's Grandfather Traded
with Nazis - Even After Pearl Harbor
By John Buchanan
Exclusive to The New Hampshire Gazette
10-10-3

WASHINGTON -- After 60 years of inattention and even denial by the U.S. media, newly-uncovered government documents in The National Archives and Library of Congress reveal that Prescott Bush, the grandfather of President George W. Bush, served as a business partner of and U.S. banking operative for the financial architect of the Nazi war machine from 1926 until 1942, when Congress took aggressive action against Bush and his "enemy national" partners.

The documents also show that Bush and his colleagues, according to reports from the U.S. Department of the Treasury, tried to conceal their financial alliance with German industrialist Fritz Thyssen, a steel and coal baron who, beginning in the mid-1920s, personally funded Adolf Hitler's rise to power by the subversion of democratic principle and German law.

Furthermore, the declassified records demonstrate that Bush and his associates, who included E. Roland Harriman, younger brother of American icon W. Averell Harriman, and George Herbert Walker, President Bush's maternal great-grandfather, continued their dealings with the German industrial tycoon for nearly a year after the U.S. entered the war.

No Story?

For six decades these historical facts have gone unreported by the mainstream U.S. media. The essential facts have appeared on the Internet and in relatively obscure books, but were dismissed by the media and Bush family as undocumented diatribes. This story has also escaped the attention of "official" Bush biographers, Presidential historians and publishers of U.S. history books covering World War II and its aftermath.

The White House did not respond to phone calls seeking comment.

The Summer of '42

The unraveling of the web of Bush-Harriman-Thyssen U.S. enterprises, all of which operated out of the same suite of offices at 39 Broadway in New York under the supervision of Prescott Bush, began with a story that ran simultaneously in the New York Herald-Tribune and Washington Post on July 31, 1941. By then, the U.S. had been at war with Germany for nearly eight months.

"Hitler's Angel Has $3 Million in U.S. Bank," declared the front-page Herald-Tribune headline. The lead paragraph characterized Fritz Thyssen as "Adolf Hitler's original patron a decade ago." In fact, the steel and coal magnate had aggressively supported and funded Hitler since October 1923, according to Thyssen's autobiography, I Paid Hitler. In that book, Thyssen also acknowledges his direct personal relationships with Adolf Hitler, Joseph Goebbels and Rudolf Hess.

The Herald-Tribune also cited unnamed sources who suggested Thyssen's U.S. "nest egg" in fact belonged to "Nazi bigwigs" including Goebbels, Hermann Goering, Heinrich Himmler, or even Hitler himself.

Business is Business

The "bank," founded in 1924 by W. Averell Harriman on behalf of Thyssen and his Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart N.V. of Holland, was Union Banking Corporation (UBC) of New York City. According to government documents, it was in reality a clearing house for a number of Thyssen-controlled enterprises and assets, including as many as a dozen individual businesses. UBC also bought and shipped overseas gold, steel, coal, and U.S. Treasury bonds. The company's activities were administered for Thyssen by a Netherlands-born, naturalized U.S. citizen named Cornelis Lievense, who served as president of UBC. Roland Harriman was chairman and Prescott Bush a managing director.

The Herald-Tribune article did not identify Bush or Harriman as executives of UBC, or Brown Brothers Harriman, in which they were partners, as UBC's private banker. A confidential FBI memo from that period suggested, without naming the Bush and Harriman families, that politically prominent individuals were about to come under official U.S. government klix as Hitler's plunder of Europe continued unabated.

After the "Hitler's Angel" article was published Bush and Harriman made no attempts to divest themselves of the controversial Thyssen financial alliance, nor did they challenge the newspaper report that UBC was, in fact, a de facto Nazi front organization in the U.S.

Instead, the government documents show, Bush and his partners increased their subterfuge to try to conceal the true nature and ownership of their various businesses, particularly after the U.S. entered the war. The documents also disclose that Cornelis Lievense, Thyssen's personal appointee to oversee U.S. matters for his Rotterdam-based Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart N.V., via UBC for nearly two decades, repeatedly denied to U.S. government investigators any knowledge of the ownership of the Netherlands bank or the role of Thyssen in it. Brown Brothers Harriman sent letters to the government seeking reconsideration of the seizures by using false information.

UBC's original group of business associates included George Herbert Walker, President Bush's maternal great-grandfather, who had a relationship with the Harriman family that began in 1919. In 1922, Walker and W. Averell Harriman traveled to Berlin to set up the German branch of their banking and investment operations, which were largely based on critical war resources such as steel and coal.

The Walker-Harriman-created German industrial alliance also included partnership with another German titan who supported Hitler's rise, Friedrich Flick, who partnered with Thyssen in the German Steel Trust that forged the Nazi war machine. For his role in using slave labor and his own steel, coal and arms resources to build Hitler's war effort, Flick was convicted at the Nuremberg trials and sentenced to prison.

The Family Business

In 1926, after Prescott Bush had married Walker's daughter, Dorothy, Walker brought Bush in as a vice president of the private banking and investment firm of W.A. Harriman & Co., also located in New York. Bush became a partner in the firm that later became Brown Brothers Harriman and the largest private investment bank in the world. Eventually, Bush became a director of and stockholder in UBC.

However, the government documents note that Bush, Harriman, Lievense and the other UBC stockholders were in fact "nominees," or phantom shareholders, for Thyssen and his Holland bank, meaning that they acted at the direct behest of their German client.

Seized

On October 20, 1942, under authority of the Trading with the Enemy Act, the U.S. Congress seized UBC and liquidated its assets after the war. The seizure is confirmed by Vesting Order No. 248 in the U.S. Office of the Alien Property Custodian and signed by U.S. Alien Property Custodian Leo T. Crowley.

In August, under the same authority, Congress had seized the first of the Bush-Harriman-managed Thyssen entities, Hamburg-American Line, under Vesting Order No. 126, also signed by Crowley. Eight days after the seizure of UBC, Congress invoked the Trading with the Enemy Act again to take control of two more Bush-Harriman-Thyssen businesses - Holland-American Trading Corp. (Vesting Order No. 261) and Seamless Steel Equipment Corp. (Vesting Order No. 259).

The documents from the Archives also show that the Bushes and Harrimans shipped valuable U.S. assets, including gold, coal, steel and U.S. Treasury bonds, to their foreign clients overseas between 1931-33, as Hitler engineered his rise to power.

Still No Story?

Since 1942, the information has not appeared in any U.S. news coverage of any Bush political campaign, nor has it been included in any of the major Bush family biographies. It was, however, covered extensively in George H.W. Bush: The Unauthorized Biography, by Webster Tarpley and Anton Chaitkin. Chaitkin's father served as an attorney in the 1940s for some of the victims of the Bush-Harriman-Thyssen businesses.

The book gave a detailed, accurate accounting of the Bush family's long Nazi affiliation, but no mainstream U.S. media entity reported on or even investigated the allegations, despite careful documentation by the authors. Major booksellers declined to distribute the book, which was dismissed by Bush supporters as biased and untrue. Its authors struggled even to be reviewed in reputable newspapers. That the book was published by Lyndon LaRouche's organization undoubtedly made it easier to dismiss, but does not change the facts.

The essence of the story has been posted for years on various Internet sites, including BuzzFlash.com and TakeBackTheMedia.com, but no online media seem to have independently confirmed it.

In the 1990s, former U.S. Justice Department Nazi war crimes prosecutor John Loftus, now honorary president of the Florida Holocaust Museum, wrote a book and launched a web site (<>www.john-loftus.com) which did breakthrough reporting, including establishing the link between Prescott Bush, Consolidated Silesian Steel Corporation and forced labor at Auschwitz. Although the widely-respected Loftus established a successful international speaking career with his information, no U.S. newspaper or major TV news program acknowledged his decade of work, nor did he ever see many of the recently released documents.

Meanwhile, the mainstream media have apparently made no attempt since World War II to either verify or disprove the allegations of Nazi collaboration against the Bush family. Instead, they have attempted to dismiss or discredit such Internet sites or "unauthorized" books without any journalistic inquiry or research into their veracity.
Still Not Interested

Major U.S. media outlets, including ABC News, NBC News, CNN, The New York Times, Washington Post, Washington Times, Los Angeles Times and Miami Herald, as well as Knight-Ridder Newspapers, have repeatedly declined to investigate the story when information regarding discovery of the documents was presented to them beginning Friday, August 29. Newsweek U.S. correspondent Michael Isikoff, famous for his reporting of big scoops during the Clinton-Lewinsky sexual affair of the 1990s, declined twice to accept an exclusive story based on the documents from the archives.

Aftermath

In 1952, Prescott Bush was elected to the U.S. Senate, with no press accounts about his well-concealed Nazi past. There is no record of any U.S. press coverage of the Bush-Nazi connection during any political campaigns conducted by George Herbert Walker Bush, Jeb Bush, or George W. Bush, with the exception of a brief mention in an unrelated story in the Sarasota Herald Tribune in November 2000 and a brief but inaccurate account in The Boston Globe in 2001.

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John Buchanan is an award-winning and internationally published journalist and investigative reporter with 33 years of experience in New York, Los Angeles, Washington and Miami. His work has appeared in more than 50 newspapers, magazines and books. He can be reached by e-mail at: [email protected].

This article was forwarded
courtesy of Dr. Leonard G. Horowitz
and Tetrahedron Publishing Group
206 North 4th Avenue, Suite 147
Sandpoint, Idaho 83864

[Nosferatu]

Evo ti malo i - o kojem se to kultu radi i koga to "obozavaju" mocnici.

Skull and Bones - drustvo cije clanovi su - oba kandidata za predsjednika Amerike - George W. Bush i John Kerry. Oformljeno oko Yale univerziteta. Jedan od najprestiznijih clanova je upravo covjek - koji je Bushovom pradjedu - ponudio - fotelju kao bankaru - u njegovoj firmi. Radi se o Mr. Harriman-u.

(CBS) As opposite as George Bush and John Kerry may seem to be, they do share a common secret - one they've shared for decades, and one they will not share with the electorate.

The secret: details of their membership in Skull and Bones, the elite Yale University society whose members include some of the most powerful men of the 20th century.

Bonesmen, as they're called, are forbidden to reveal what goes on in their inner sanctum, the windowless building on the Yale campus that is called the Tomb.

When 60 Minutes first reported on Skull & Bones last October, conspiracy theorists, who see Skull and Bones behind just about everything that goes wrong, and even right, in the world, were relishing the unthinkable - the possibility of two Bonesman fighting it out for the presidency.

Over the years, Bones has included presidents, cabinet officers, spies, Supreme Court justices, captains of industry, and often their sons and lately their daughters, a social and political network like no other.

And to a man and women, they'd responded to questions with utter silence until an enterprising Yale graduate, Alexandra Robbins, managed to penetrate the wall of silence in her book, “Secrets of the Tomb,” reports CBS News Correspondent Morley Safer. "I spoke with about 100 members of Skull and Bones and they were members who were tired of the secrecy, and that's why they were willing to talk to me,” says Robbins. “But probably twice that number hung up on me, harassed me, or threatened me.”

Secret or not, Skull and Bones is as essential to Yale as the Whiffenpoofs, the tables down at a pub called Mory's, and the Yale mascot - that ever-slobbering bulldog.

Skull and Bones, with all its ritual and macabre relics, was founded in 1832 as a new world version of secret student societies that were common in Germany at the time. Since then, it has chosen or "tapped" only 15 senior students a year who become patriarchs when they graduate -- lifetime members of the ultimate old boys' club.

“Skull and Bones is so klix. That's what makes this staggering,” says Robbins. “There are only 15 people a year, which means there are about 800 living members at any one time.”

But a lot of Bonesmen have gone on to positions of great power, which Robbins says is the main purpose of this secret society: to get as many members as possible into positions of power.

“They do have many individuals in influential positions,” says Robbins. “And that's why this is something that we need to know about.”

President Bush has tapped five fellow Bonesmen to join his administration. Most recently, he selected William Donaldson, Skull and Bones 1953, the head of the Securities and Exchange Commission. Like the President, he's taken the Bones oath of silence. Ron Rosenbaum, author and columnist for the New York Observer, has become obsessed with cracking that code of secrecy.

“I think there is a deep and legitimate distrust in America for power and privilege that are cloaked in secrecy. It's not supposed to be the way we do things,” says Rosenbaum. “We're supposed to do things out in the open in America. And so that any society or institution that hints that there is something hidden is, I think, a legitimate subject for investigation.”

His investigation is a 30-year obsession klix back to his days as a Yale classmate of George W. Bush. Rosenbaum, a self-described undergraduate nerd, was certainly not a contender for Bones. But he was fascinated by its weirdness.

“It's this sepulchral, tomblike, windowless, granite, sandstone bulk that you can't miss. And I lived next to it,” says Rosenbaum. “I had passed it all the time. And during the initiation rites, you could hear strange cries and whispers coming from the Skull and Bones tomb.”

Despite a lifetime of attempts to get inside, the best Rosenbaum could do was hide out on the ledge of a nearby building a few years ago to videotape a nocturnal initiation ceremony in the Tomb's courtyard.

“A woman holds a knife and pretends to slash the throat of another person lying down before them, and there's screaming and yelling at the neophytes,” he says.

Robbins says the cast of the initiation ritual is right out of Harry Potter meets Dracula: “There is a devil, a Don Quixote and a Pope who has one foot sheathed in a white monogrammed slipper resting on a stone skull. The initiates are led into the room one at a time. And once an initiate is inside, the Bonesmen shriek at him. Finally, the Bonesman is shoved to his knees in front of Don Quixote as the shrieking crowd falls silent. And Don Quixote lifts his sword and taps the Bonesman on his left shoulder and says, ‘By order of our order, I dub thee knight of Euloga.’"

It’s a lot of mumbo-jumbo, says Robbins, but it means a lot to the people who are in it.

“Prescott Bush, George W's grandfather, and a band of Bonesmen, robbed the grave of Geronimo, took the skull and some personal relics of the Apache chief and brought them back to the tomb,” says Robbins. “There is still a glass case, Bonesmen tell me, within the tomb that displays a skull that they all refer to as Geronimo.”

“The preoccupation with bones, mortality, with coffins, lying in coffins, standing around coffins, all this sort of thing I think is designed to give them the sense that, and it's very true, life is short,” says Rosenbaum. “You can spend it, if you have a privileged background, enjoying yourself, contributing nothing, or you can spend it making a contribution.”

And plenty of Bonesmen have made a contribution, from William Howard Taft, the 27th President; Henry Luce, the founder of Time Magazine; and W. Averell Harriman, the diplomat and confidant of U.S. presidents.

“What's important about the undergraduate years of Skull and Bones, as opposed to fraternities, is that it imbues them with a kind of mission for moral leadership,” says Rosenbaum. “And it's something that they may ignore for 30 years of their life, as George W. Bush seemed to successfully ignore it for quite a long time. But he came back to it.”

Mr. Bush, like his father and grandfather before him, has refused to talk openly about Skull and Bones. But as a Bonesman, he was required to reveal his innermost secrets to his fellow Bones initiates.

“They're supposed to recount their entire sexual histories in sort of a dim, a dimly-lit cozy room. The other 14 members are sitting on plush couches, and the lights are dimmed,” says Robbins. “And there's a fire roaring. And the, this activity is supposed to last anywhere from between one to three hours.” What’s the point of this?

”I believe the point of the year in the tomb is to forge such a strong bond between these 15 new members that after they graduate, for them to betray Skull and Bones would mean they'd have to betray their 14 closest friends,” says Robbins.

One can't help but make certain comparisons with the mafia, for example. Secret society, bonding, stakes may be a little higher in one than the other. But everybody knows everything about everybody, which is a form of protection.

“I think Skull and Bones has had slightly more success than the mafia in the sense that the leaders of the five families are all doing 100 years in jail, and the leaders of the Skull and Bones families are doing four and eight years in the White House,” says Rosenbaum.

Bones is not restricted to the Republican Party. Yet another Bonesman has his eye on the Oval Office: Senator John Kerry, Democrat, Skull & Bones 1966.

“It is fascinating isn't it? I mean, again, all the people say, ‘Oh, these societies don't matter. The Eastern Establishment is in decline.’ And you could not find two more quintessential Eastern establishment, privileged guys,” says Rosenbaum. “I remember when I was a nerdy scholarship student in the reserve book room at, at the Yale Library, and John Kerry, who at that point styled himself ‘John F. Kerry’ would walk in.”

“There was always a little buzz,” adds Rosenbaum. “Because even then he was seen to be destined for higher things. He was head of the Yale Political Union, and a tap for Skull and Bones was seen as the natural sequel to that.”

David Brooks, a conservative commentator who has published a book on the social dynamics of the upwardly mobile, says that while Skull & Bones may be elite and secret, it's anything but exciting.

“My view of secret societies is they're like the first class cabin in airplanes. They're really impressive until you get into them, and then once you're there they're a little dull. So you hear all these conspiracy theories about Skull and Bones,” says Brooks.

“And to me, to be in one of these organizations, you have to have an incredibly high tolerance for tedium 'cause you're sittin' around talking, talking, and talking. You're not running the world, you're just gassing.”

Gassing or not, the best-connected white man's club in America has moved reluctantly into the 21st Century.

“Skull and Bones narrowly endorsed admitting women,” says Robbins. “The day before these women were supposed to be initiated, a group of Bonesmen, including William F. Buckley, obtained a court order to block the initiation claiming that letting women into the tomb would lead to date rape. Again more legal wrangling; finally it came down to another vote and women were admitted and initiated.”

But Skull & Bones now has women, and it’s become more multicultural.

“It has gays who got the SAT scores, it's got the gays who got the straight A's,” says Brooks. “It's got the blacks who are the president of the right associations. It's different criteria. More multicultural, but it's still an elite, selective institution.”

On balance, it may be bizarre, but on a certain perspective, does it provide something of value?

“You take these young strivers, you put them in this weird castle. They spill their guts with each other, fine. But they learn something beyond themselves. They learn a commitment to each other, they learn a commitment to the community,” says Brooks. “And maybe they inherit some of those old ideals of public service that are missing in a lot of other parts of the country.”

And is that relationship, in some cases, stronger than family or faith?

“Absolutely,” says Robbins. “You know, they say, they say the motto at Yale is, ‘For God, for country, and for Yale.’ At Bones, I would think it's ‘For Bones.'”

[bc_chupo]

Ugledni forum analiticari

ako ste tako efikasno apsolvirali 11. sept., fino skupili sve glasine na internetu, mozete li molim vas objasniti ko je onda pocinio napade u Spaniji 2004. godine? Londonu prosle godine? Ostrvu Bali? U Keniji prije 2001. godine?

Uzivio sam se u vasu paranoidno-alternativnu istoriju, drma sine, zacas dan prodje u kovanju teorija zavjera, super stvar! Hvala sto ste mi oci otvorili. Sad vjerujem cak i u bosansku dolinu piramida, jos samo mi ovo potvrdite: Jel'de da su za sve teroristicke napade Amerikanci krivi?

hahahahhahah

amerika je ustvari jedna globalna mreza terorizma evo neki od njihovih djela :
1993. 26. FEB.- bomb explodes at the World Trade Center in New York
04. OCT.- eighteen US serviceman killed in Somalia
1996. 25. JUN.- US military base in Saudi bombed-19 serviceman killed
1998. 07. AUG.- US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania bombed
2000. 12. OCT.- Attack on US warship in Yemen kills 17 soldiers
2001. 11. SEP.- The worst attack on US soil kills about 3.000 people
2001. 11. SEP.- Attack on PENTAGON killed about 194 people
2002. 11.APR.- Blast at Tunsian synagogue kills 17 people
2002. 12. OCT.- Bomb attacks on Bali nightclubs kill 202 people
2002. 28. NOV.- Israeli targets come under attack in Kenya
2003. 15. DEC.- Suicide bombers hit two Tuskish synagogues...about 23 people killed and more than 300 injured
2003. 20. DEC.- Two bomb attacks on British interests in Turkey...about 27 dead..and more than 4500 wounded
2004. 11. MAR.- Madrid rocked by deadly train bombings that killed about 191 people and leaving about 1.800 injured
2004. 29. MAY.- Militant shooting spree and sige kill 22 in Saudi Arabia
2005. 07. JUL.- Rush-hour bomb attack strike the heart of London...52 people die and 700 injured

i ima ih jos mrsko mi pisat...slaba ova amerika ...jarane sve sami terroristi hahahahhahahahahha

[cenerupola]

za mene 11 sep ce ostat u pamcenju do kraja zivota..............
POLOZIO SAM VOZACKI....

[bc_chupo]

za mene 11 sep ce ostat u pamcenju do kraja zivota..............
POLOZIO SAM VOZACKI....

hihihihihih
lol

[Nosferatu]

Cupo - odaj nam svoju tajnu. Gdje si bio ti, kad je bilo najteze?

U Turskoj 27 mrtvih i okruglo 4500 ranjenih. Gdje si sta ima? Pa bacali su bombe i po Sarajevu, tri i pol godine, a i po drugim mjestima - od mene 300 metara je pala Luna - raketa sa 500 kg eksploziva u narodu poznata kao - Zemlja- Zemlja. Ubila okruglo 0 ljudi iako je pala u sami grad. Kako to? E, pa - upala u skladiste koje je razorila detonacijom - i na susjedne dvije ulice - prekorenula svaki krov na kuci koji je bio. Znas sta je 500 kg? Otprilike onoliko koliko je Timothy McGway aktivirao u Oklahomi samo sto je ono bio C4, mnogo vece raznorne moci. Ko je Timothy McGway? Americki vojnik? Ko Washington Sniper? Americki vojnik. Koga su Amerikanci ubili na Waco compoundu - kada su zapalili - cijelu farmu, sa zenama i djecom? Ko je ubio 200.000 ljudi u Iraku? Ko je stavio sankcije na Irak - rezultat koji je hiljade mrtve djece - sto od zracenja bombi obogacenih uranijskim otpatcima sto od nedostatka osnovnih sredstava za ljecenje. Koja je zemlja prva - inicira - da se razmjena za gorivo - ne obavlja na svjetskom niovu u US dollarima vec u Eurima? Irak. 2. Sjeveran Koreja. 3/4 Kina/Rusija. Rezultat? Iznenadno opadanje vrijednosti dollara. Razlog? Zato sto sve akumulacije dollara potrebne za trgovinu s naftom po svijetu - danas nikome vise ne trebaju te ih vracaju nazad u Ameriku - koja printa lovu - za koje vise pokrica nema. 2002 godine Euro:Dollar je bio 1:1. Koliki je danas? Koliki je dug Americki? Po familiji 70.000 dollara. Kome je duzna Amerika? Primarno Azijskim zemljama i tu prvenstveno Kini. Kolika je kamata? Pa cak za skolostvo kamatna stopa je dosegla 7% godisnje. Prije 8 godina gallon goriva je bio - $1. Danas je skoro $3. Za svo ovo vrijeme - minimalna satnica je ostala $5.25/hr. Sta to znaci? Znaci - da plate se ne povecavaju proprocionalno sa troskovima zivljenja tj. da drustvo - osiromasljuje - i da to osjecaju najvise oni - koji su najdonji u njemu. Te najdonje i regrutuju i salju u Irak - medju njima - koliko hoce ex-convicta i felona. Ratuju kriminalci. Americke Juke i Cace. Radije to nego sjediti u blajboku i preci na Islam kao sto je 200.000 crnaca koji su u zatvoru - konvertirali se na Islam. Inace u Americi kad postanes convicted felon - oduzimaju ti pravo na glas. Koliko stotina hiljada odraslih crnaca - nema pravo na glas upravo zbog ovoga? Trenutno je u zatvoru 2 miliona ljudi. To je pola Bosne i Hercegovine. U zatvoru. Koliko ljudi - Texas ubije godisnje - na death raw-u? Texas ubija ljude - a Bush hoce da spasava - zenu koja je udar imala prije 10 godina i koji ju je ostavio - kao biljku. Nakon 10 godina - crkvenjaci joj guraju cjev u usta i hoce da je hrane i da disu za nju. U isto vrijeme - zatvaraju klinike za abortiranje - pa se radja sve vise djece - nezeljene. 52% brakova propada u USA. Koji je broj djece - bez oceva koja odrastaju? U minority grupama u inner city-jima - gotovo da je pravilo da majka samohrana podize vise djece koji imaju vise oceva i nijedan od kojih je tu - da se pobrine o familiji. Ovo su broken homes. Socijalna disfukncija. Zacarani krug iz kojeg - se tesko izlazi. Na drugu stranu imas - hiljade emigranata koji su dovedeni - da robuju sistemu - i prihvataju se poslova kojih manje vise - niko drugi nece. Sta se to danas proizvodi u Americi? Amerika je postala najveci potrosac na svijetu a #1 izvoz - njen je - oruzije. Americka vojska ima budzet jednak 10 sljedecih armija u svijetu. Nijedna zemlja druga - na svijetu - ne trosi % GDP-a na armiju - kao Amerika. Bila je Rusija - koja je propala. Al' sta Chupo zna? Daj njemu nintedno i MTV, fino auto i kreditnu karticu, cell phone i Abercrombie i Flinch, American Eagle i to je to.

[seljak_cojek]

Da li ti stvarno misliš da je u Pentagon udario Boing. (Koliko je materijanih dokaza pronađeno na mjestu udara? Kako to da nema trgova gdje su krila udarila u zgradu - gorivo je ako se ne varam u krilima.)
Da li ti stvarno misliš da je moguće da priučeni pilot izvede onakav manevar sa Boingom i pogodi toranj, kada su i mnogi iskusniji piloti izjavili da je to izuzrtno teško?
Zašto se srušila i treća zgrada koja nije imala nikakve veze (fizičke) sa tornjevima?
Zašto su tako brzo uklonjeni ostaci tornjeva (čelik prodat kinezima), čak i prije završetka kompletne istrage?
Zašto nema snimaka sa kamera za obezbjeđenje Pentagona?
Zašto su dan nakon tragedije uprkos zabrani letenja nad Amerikom saudijski državljani posebnim letom izmješteni iz Amerike (zajedno sa članovima porodice bin-Laden?

Zar misliš da je ono što je Michael Moore objavio u svom dokumentarcu izmišljotina?
I na kraju, ako vjerujemo Moore-u i drugima koji su daleko upućeniji od nas, da li nas to čini imbecilima, budaletinama koji se trebaju upucati, ljudima bez savjesti?

Eto sam si sebi dokazao da si neznalica i pun mržnje.
Čak ni Moore nije nikad ni posumnjao a kamoli rekao da iza napada na WTC i Pentagon ne stoji Al Qaida.

Nema svrhe upuštati se u bilo kakvu diskusiju sa tobom jer je tvoj mozak i te kako zatrovan mržnjom da nisi u stanju prepoznati istinu. Al Quaida ima otvoren konkurs za posao samoubice za takve kao što si ti.

Kultura dijaloga...............ma neću o tome.
Nego postavio sam ti pitanja zbog kojih ja nisam siguran da je zvanično objašnjenje događaja oko 9/11 potpuna istina. Ako su tebi odgovori jasni, možeš li, ne zbog mene (moj mozak je već zatrovan) nego zbog ostalih učesnika u diskusiji, obrazložiti svoje stavove u vezi sa pitanjima koja sam postavio.

[Nosferatu]

Da li ti stvarno misliš da je u Pentagon udario Boing. (Koliko je materijanih dokaza pronađeno na mjestu udara? Kako to da nema trgova gdje su krila udarila u zgradu - gorivo je ako se ne varam u krilima.)
Da li ti stvarno misliš da je moguće da priučeni pilot izvede onakav manevar sa Boingom i pogodi toranj, kada su i mnogi iskusniji piloti izjavili da je to izuzrtno teško?
Zašto se srušila i treća zgrada koja nije imala nikakve veze (fizičke) sa tornjevima?
Zašto su tako brzo uklonjeni ostaci tornjeva (čelik prodat kinezima), čak i prije završetka kompletne istrage?
Zašto nema snimaka sa kamera za obezbjeđenje Pentagona?
Zašto su dan nakon tragedije uprkos zabrani letenja nad Amerikom saudijski državljani posebnim letom izmješteni iz Amerike (zajedno sa članovima porodice bin-Laden?

Zar misliš da je ono što je Michael Moore objavio u svom dokumentarcu izmišljotina?
I na kraju, ako vjerujemo Moore-u i drugima koji su daleko upućeniji od nas, da li nas to čini imbecilima, budaletinama koji se trebaju upucati, ljudima bez savjesti?

Eto sam si sebi dokazao da si neznalica i pun mržnje.
Čak ni Moore nije nikad ni posumnjao a kamoli rekao da iza napada na WTC i Pentagon ne stoji Al Qaida.

Nema svrhe upuštati se u bilo kakvu diskusiju sa tobom jer je tvoj mozak i te kako zatrovan mržnjom da nisi u stanju prepoznati istinu. Al Quaida ima otvoren konkurs za posao samoubice za takve kao što si ti.

Kultura dijaloga...............ma neću o tome.
Nego postavio sam ti pitanja zbog kojih ja nisam siguran da je zvanično objašnjenje događaja oko 9/11 potpuna istina. Ako su tebi odgovori jasni, možeš li, ne zbog mene (moj mozak je već zatrovan) nego zbog ostalih učesnika u diskusiji, obrazložiti svoje stavove u vezi sa pitanjima koja sam postavio.

Imam ja jedno pitanje za Array.

U.S. Kongres je izglasao bill od 7 milijardi dollara - kao kompenzaciju za poginule 9-11. Uz to - fond za zrtve - dobrotvnorni - je prikupio oko 2 miljarde dollara. Po udovici 9-11 - svaka ima pravo da dobije sumu od 7+ miliona dollara, pod uslovom da potpise ugovor i ne tuzi World Trade Tower - za smrt svog supruznika.

Neke od ovih - zena su postale - celebrity overnight. Na Oprah Winfrey show-u sjecam se price o Kathy koja je - profuckala 5 miliona dollara - za par godina. Zena ima bilijar od 20.000, tasnicu od 4.000. Voza se u najboljem sportskom autu. Zivi na visokoj nozi. Ima show od 1h - na Oprah posvecen samo njoj - i kuknjavi njenoj oko gubitka muza? Pa ko koga ovdje u zdrav?

Jel ovo za tebe predstavlja - nacin na koji se trebaju kompenzirati zrtve?

Americki vojnik koji pogine u Iraku - zavisno od ranga kojem pripada ima pravo na life insurance primeju od 200.000 dollara pa na vise. Znaci da je jedan covjek koji je poginuo na 9-11 - vrijedio koliko 30 vojnika Americkih koji idu u rat - upravo da preventiraju - sljedeci 9-11?

Poginuti na 9-11 je bila premija. Lutrija. Lotto koji te jednom pogadja. Narucito u Americkom drustvu - gdje se ne vezu ljudi pretjerano jedni uz druge. Sto jedna pjesma kaze - svako ima svoju cijenu - ne pricaj mi o cjeni - cjena bi te samo odala.

Al' evo - 5 godina kasnije ja ne znam koga vise da sazaljevam. Sebe, tebe, poginule, njihove familije milionerske il' cijeli svijet - koji ne zna vise ni sam - sta o svemu ovome da misli.

Zbog cega ti mislis - da vojnik Americki - koji pogine u Iraku - vrijedi 1/30 zivota onoga ko pogine na Americkom tlu? Cime to opravdavas?

p.s. Daysleeper - hvala za doprinos. Ipak - vidis da je ostalo nesto od zgrade Oslobodenja. Ja nikako ne mogu da shvatim - kako je mogao Tower 7 - zgrada od 47 spratova - u kojoj je izmedju ostalog smjesten i CIA - da kolapsira (treca zgrada na toj lokaciji)? Nije u nju udario avion. Bila je blizu - dva tornja - al' opet - i druge su zgrade. Odjednom se urusila 7h nakon - pada prvog tornja. Meni odatle - nije jasna - racunica cijela. A oko tornjeva mi nije jasno sta je to moglo izgoriti nakon kerozina da urusi zgradu. Kerozin gori max. 10 minuta. Toliko je mogao goriti - i ugasiti se. Ostali plamen koji je dolazio - je bio od papira, plastike i tepiha i tako tih stvari koje gore - al' ni izbliza nemaju kaloricnost kerozina. Ne mogu nikako da prihvatim da je pozar od 10 minuta srusio ne jednu - nego dvije zgrade od 110 spratova i jednu od 47.

[DaysleepeR]

Sto se tice WTC-a 7, ja koliko se sjecam 911, gledao sam CNN i receno je da su je srusili namjerno jer joj je struktura bila ozbiljno narusena i ugrozavala je rescue workere.

Inace, jos od pocetaka zime 2001 sam poceo pratiti site http://www.whatreallyhappened.com koja se od pocetka bavila rupama i 911 timelineu i citavim ringom sajtova koji su se bavili istom tematikom i cudno je kako tek sad u mainstream medije dolaze sva ta pitanja...

[Arslan_]

Ja mislim da su napad na tornjeve WTC-a organizovali pripadnici "Japanske Imperijalne Garde" zeleci se tako osvetit za poraz u II. Svj. Ratu.
Nakon napada zastitili su svoj identitet stavljanjem u pogon I. narastaja androida koji su isprogramirani da oponasaju muslimane.
et toliko za sada

[DaysleepeR]

Al-Kaida ne postoji tvrdi se u ovom Britanskom dokumentarcu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBVVs9hcmRY

Ovo je samo 8-minutni isjecak 6-satnog dokumentarca BBC-ija "The power of Nightmares".

Along those lines - "Loose Change" - je ja mislim pomenuo kolega gore - kao dokumentarac koji testira konsiprativne teorije o 9-11.

Postoji tu i jedna knjiga koja je napisana prije 9-11. Zove se "The Cultre of Fear - Why Americans are Afraid of the Wrong Thing"



Sto se tice Al-Qaid-e i militantnog Islama - i to su govna svoje vrste. Nista oni - ne brane, niti "ista" predstavljaju osim sto namecu da su svi problemi Islamskog svijeta - oni sa Zapada. Centralni problem u Islamu je pitanje autoriteta. Islam - nema autoriteta centralnog. Nema nikog da ustane i negira - ono sto teroristi proklamiraju. Zbog toga su i postali jedini glasnogovornici Islama a sa napadom na Zapad su osvojili mnoge simpatije - sad se predstavljaju jos kao patrioti u Iraku - dok je Al-Zarqawi ubijao Shite jednako ko i Amerikance a bogami i ostale Iracane koji su prihvatili okupaciju. Niko nece da pogleda cinjenicu - da Islamski svijet od 16 stolejca na ovamo - kopni - i zaostaje, uz pokoji pokusaj - westernizacije kao Iran i Egipat - koji je manje vise neospjeo, i Turska koji je manje vise uspjeo, ali su obatri primjera - uz ogromne napore i sudare - vise razlicitih slojeva drustva. Saudijska Arabija je - primjer perverzije vjere u obe dimenzije. I materijalnoj (Kraljevska familija) i duhovnom (Wehabije).

A najbolja izreka koja ovo sve pojasnjava je - put u dzehenem je poplocan sa dobrim namjerama. BiH - je numero uno - ponajbolji primjer svega toga.

Koga interesuje, kompletan dokumentarac The power of Nightmares se nalazi ovdje.

Autor - BBC

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/video1037.htm

[zzzzz]

I jos nesto. Ovo nije prvi put - da je Amerika znala za napad - i nije ucinila nista. Po prvi put je to ucinjeno u Peral Harboru. Punih 7 dana prije tog napada - novine na Hawaima su najavljivale napad Japanse flote i eskadrile na cijelu Americku flotu - koja je bila ukvotljena tamo - al' nije se niko na to pretjerano obazirao jer - su mislili da avioni jednostavno nemaju dovoljan dijapazon da mogu sa najblizek otoka pod Japanskom kontrolom doletiti do Hawaii i vratiti se. To ih je i skupo kostalo. Nakon ovog napada - Amerika je usla u 2 svijetski rat. I postala - najjaca sila na svijetu. Od jedne agrarne zemlje - industrijalizovana. Od zemlje u nedavnoj depresiji - zemlja u kojoj je sve i jedan covjek bio zaposlen - u fabrikama smrti.

Mislim, vidio sam koliko ste naivni po prijasnjim postovima, ali ovo.... Bilo bi smjesno da nije uzasno tuzno. "Amerika je namjestila citav Drugi svjetski rat haman tacno tako da zaposli svoje ljude, sve su znali (a u kasike nisu gledali)"... Pa stvarno nisi mogao gluplju stvar sloziti, ali i time svima uciniti ogromnu uslugu -- da svi vide sa kakvim paranoidnim bilmezom imaju posla.

jos jednom, fala njosferhatu!

Nije samo nosferatu sklon teorijama zavjere, Henry Ford je tvrdio da su jevreji sa Wall Street-a osmislili i izazvali I svjetski rat radi licnih interesa.

Bio je kritikovan jer nije zelio da njegove fabrike proizvode za potrebe americke vojne industrije

[rikardoreis]

evo malo vedrije strane oko misterije 11-09

New York City ima 11 slova.
2) Afghanistan ima 11 slova.
3) Ramsin Yuseb (terorist koji je prijetio da ce srusiti Blizance 1993. godine) ima 11 slova.
4) George W Bush ima 11 slova.

Ovo bi mogla biti puka slucajnost, ali postaje zanimljivije:
1) New York je bila jedanaesta savezna drzava SAD-a.
2) Prvi avion koji se zabio u Twin Towers je bio let broj 11.
3) Let 11 je imao 92 putnika. 9+2=11.
4) Let 77 koji se takoder zabio u tornjeve je imao 65 putnika. 6+5= 11.
5) Tragedija se dogodila 11. rujna, ili kako Ameri kazu, 9/11. 9+1+1 =11.
6) Datum tragedije (9/11) se poklapa sa Americkim brojem za hitne sluzbe (911). Opet 9+1+1=11.

Slucajnost? Nastavite citati, pa cete mozda promijeniti misljenje.
1) Ukupni broj poginulih putnika otetih aviona je 254. 2 + 5 + 4 = 11.
2) 11. rujna je 254. dan u godini. Opet 2 + 5 + 4 = 11.
3) Bombaski napad u Madridu se dogodio 11.3.2004. 1+1+3+2+4= 11.
4) Tragedija u Madridu se dogodila tocno 911 dana nakon napada na Blizance.

Tu postaje jako cudno.
Najpoznatiji simbol SAD-a, nakon zvjezdica i crta sa zastave, je Americki Orao. Stih koji slijedi je preuzet iz Kur'ana, Svete knjige Islama. "Zapisano je da ce sin Arabije probuditi strahovitog Orla. Ljutnju Orla osjetit ce svi u zemljama Alaha, i makar ce neki drhtati u ocaju, drugi ce u nadi govoriti: ljutnja Orla je ocistila zemlje Alaha i tamo je zavladao mir." To je stih 9.11 u Kur'anu.

Jos uvijek ne vjerujete?
Probajte ovo, mene je sokiralo. Otvorite MicrosoftWord i napravite sljedece:
1) Utipkajte Q33 NY . To je sluzbeni naziv leta prvog aviona koji se zabio u Twin Towers.
2) Zacrnite ih i povecajte font na 48.
3) Promijenite font slova na WINDINGS.

[forUMASH]

....ma, mudziza jedan kroz jedan....

[danas]

Najpoznatiji simbol SAD-a, nakon zvjezdica i crta sa zastave, je Americki Orao. Stih koji slijedi je preuzet iz Kur'ana, Svete knjige Islama. "Zapisano je da ce sin Arabije probuditi strahovitog Orla. Ljutnju Orla osjetit ce svi u zemljama Alaha, i makar ce neki drhtati u ocaju, drugi ce u nadi govoriti: ljutnja Orla je ocistila zemlje Alaha i tamo je zavladao mir." To je stih 9.11 u Kur'anu.

kur'an:
[9.11] But if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, they are your brethren in faith; and We make the communications clear for a people who know

ili po bosanski:
9. 11. Ali ako se oni budu pokajali i molitvu obavljali i zekat davali, braca su vam po vjeri. – A Mi dokaze objasnjavamo ljudima koji razumiju.

[lindjo]

evo malo vedrije strane oko misterije 11-09

1) Utipkajte Q33 NY . To je sluzbeni naziv leta prvog aviona koji se zabio u Twin Towers.
2) Zacrnite ih i povecajte font na 48.
3) Promijenite font slova na WINDINGS.

probajte svi

[forUMASH]

evo malo vedrije strane oko misterije 11-09

1) Utipkajte Q33 NY . To je sluzbeni naziv leta prvog aviona koji se zabio u Twin Towers.
2) Zacrnite ih i povecajte font na 48.
3) Promijenite font slova na WINDINGS.

probajte svi

....kazem ti ja....mirikl...

ps- da si ovo isto ukucao davne '94, '95, na windows-u "tri tacka nesto" (ovo je stari font) dobio bi istu stvar koja ti apsolutno nista nebi znacila bas kao sto ti ni danas hiljade drugih kombinacija ovoga tipa ne znace nista....
....hebi ga, kad ti je posao da trazis mudzize, nadjes nesto, prije ili kasnije, pa se onda delegati cude....

pss- evo i "sluzbeni naziv leta ":
United Airlines Flight 175
American Airlines Flight 11
American Airlines Flight 77
United Airlines Flight 93

[danas]

pss- evo i "sluzbeni naziv leta ":
United Airlines Flight 175
American Airlines Flight 11
American Airlines Flight 77
United Airlines Flight 93

svakako da let 33 nije jedan od letova u pitanju. a ni Q ne postoji kao prefix broja leta, jer je uvijek ovaj prefiks odrednica za avio-kompaniju i uvijek ima DVA slova... UA (United Airlines); NW (NorthWest); LH (Lufthansa) i slicno. Q bi mozda mogao biti qantas, ali njihova skracenica je QF

uzas... cega se sve covjek nece nagledati na ovom forumu

[bc_chupo]

Cupo - odaj nam svoju tajnu. Gdje si bio ti, kad je bilo najteze?

U Turskoj 27 mrtvih i okruglo 4500 ranjenih. Gdje si sta ima? Pa bacali su bombe i po Sarajevu, tri i pol godine, a i po drugim mjestima - od mene 300 metara je pala Luna - raketa sa 500 kg eksploziva u narodu poznata kao - Zemlja- Zemlja. Ubila okruglo 0 ljudi iako je pala u sami grad. Kako to? E, pa - upala u skladiste koje je razorila detonacijom - i na susjedne dvije ulice - prekorenula svaki krov na kuci koji je bio. Znas sta je 500 kg? Otprilike onoliko koliko je Timothy McGway aktivirao u Oklahomi samo sto je ono bio C4, mnogo vece raznorne moci. Ko je Timothy McGway? Americki vojnik? Ko Washington Sniper? Americki vojnik. Koga su Amerikanci ubili na Waco compoundu - kada su zapalili - cijelu farmu, sa zenama i djecom? Ko je ubio 200.000 ljudi u Iraku? Ko je stavio sankcije na Irak - rezultat koji je hiljade mrtve djece - sto od zracenja bombi obogacenih uranijskim otpatcima sto od nedostatka osnovnih sredstava za ljecenje. Koja je zemlja prva - inicira - da se razmjena za gorivo - ne obavlja na svjetskom niovu u US dollarima vec u Eurima? Irak. 2. Sjeveran Koreja. 3/4 Kina/Rusija. Rezultat? Iznenadno opadanje vrijednosti dollara. Razlog? Zato sto sve akumulacije dollara potrebne za trgovinu s naftom po svijetu - danas nikome vise ne trebaju te ih vracaju nazad u Ameriku - koja printa lovu - za koje vise pokrica nema. 2002 godine Euro:Dollar je bio 1:1. Koliki je danas? Koliki je dug Americki? Po familiji 70.000 dollara. Kome je duzna Amerika? Primarno Azijskim zemljama i tu prvenstveno Kini. Kolika je kamata? Pa cak za skolostvo kamatna stopa je dosegla 7% godisnje. Prije 8 godina gallon goriva je bio - $1. Danas je skoro $3. Za svo ovo vrijeme - minimalna satnica je ostala $5.25/hr. Sta to znaci? Znaci - da plate se ne povecavaju proprocionalno sa troskovima zivljenja tj. da drustvo - osiromasljuje - i da to osjecaju najvise oni - koji su najdonji u njemu. Te najdonje i regrutuju i salju u Irak - medju njima - koliko hoce ex-convicta i felona. Ratuju kriminalci. Americke Juke i Cace. Radije to nego sjediti u blajboku i preci na Islam kao sto je 200.000 crnaca koji su u zatvoru - konvertirali se na Islam. Inace u Americi kad postanes convicted felon - oduzimaju ti pravo na glas. Koliko stotina hiljada odraslih crnaca - nema pravo na glas upravo zbog ovoga? Trenutno je u zatvoru 2 miliona ljudi. To je pola Bosne i Hercegovine. U zatvoru. Koliko ljudi - Texas ubije godisnje - na death raw-u? Texas ubija ljude - a Bush hoce da spasava - zenu koja je udar imala prije 10 godina i koji ju je ostavio - kao biljku. Nakon 10 godina - crkvenjaci joj guraju cjev u usta i hoce da je hrane i da disu za nju. U isto vrijeme - zatvaraju klinike za abortiranje - pa se radja sve vise djece - nezeljene. 52% brakova propada u USA. Koji je broj djece - bez oceva koja odrastaju? U minority grupama u inner city-jima - gotovo da je pravilo da majka samohrana podize vise djece koji imaju vise oceva i nijedan od kojih je tu - da se pobrine o familiji. Ovo su broken homes. Socijalna disfukncija. Zacarani krug iz kojeg - se tesko izlazi. Na drugu stranu imas - hiljade emigranata koji su dovedeni - da robuju sistemu - i prihvataju se poslova kojih manje vise - niko drugi nece. Sta se to danas proizvodi u Americi? Amerika je postala najveci potrosac na svijetu a #1 izvoz - njen je - oruzije. Americka vojska ima budzet jednak 10 sljedecih armija u svijetu. Nijedna zemlja druga - na svijetu - ne trosi % GDP-a na armiju - kao Amerika. Bila je Rusija - koja je propala. Al' sta Chupo zna? Daj njemu nintedno i MTV, fino auto i kreditnu karticu, cell phone i Abercrombie i Flinch, American Eagle i to je to.

Hahahahahahh de molim te mi reci kakve veze sada ima 9/11 sa ratom u BIH???????????????????????????????????????????????????????

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Ja mislim da su napad na tornjeve WTC-a organizovali pripadnici "Japanske Imperijalne Garde" zeleci se tako osvetit za poraz u II. Svj. Ratu.
Nakon napada zastitili su svoj identitet stavljanjem u pogon I. narastaja androida koji su isprogramirani da oponasaju muslimane.
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Ja mislim da je wtc napadnut od strane vanzemaljaca....
jednostavno nisu im se svidjeli i oni otmu avione i odu u amerku i sruse blizance.........