Nokia Lumia & Windows Phone

[Qler]

Izgleda isto jer hw je isti a display je 5'' kod tebe tako da rade sve kerafeke koje iskorištavaju veći display. Znaš za fintu da držiš win dugme da spusti "ekran" dole da lakše dohvatiš gornji red...

[Maharadza]

Evo da ne kažete kako samo pljujem, pa se naleti i na kakav pozitivan članak o MS-u:

Microsoft Is The New Google, Google Is The Old Microsoft

A year is a long time in technology, but the past 12 months has seen one of the most surprising and exciting shake-ups in recent history: Microsoft and Google have swapped places.

In my opinion this is the current situation. In 2015 Satya Nadella led Microsoft has become a progressive, open, web services company. By contrast Google grasps at ageing revenue pillars and neglects the present to concentrate on scattergun projects which overpromise and underdeliver.

How Google Is Becoming Microsoft

Google’s pillars of ads and search have become its Windows and Office. Both are being chipped away by more targeted advertising within social media and the compartmentalisation of an apps-based world. Your details and desires are on Facebook, Twitter, Snapchat and Instagram more than in your Google search requests and we increasingly go to specific apps (eg weather) rather than web searching for it.

The knock-on effect: Adsense is declining and Google’s search market share is currently at its lowest point in seven years. Like Microsoft had done with Windows and Office, Google understandably still tightly holds onto the duo as its primary revenue pillars but the future implies only further slow decline with no obvious escape route.

Furthermore Google appears to be making another old Microsoft error: deprioritizing mobile.

Just as the evolution of Windows got sluggish once Microsoft had domination of the computer space, so Google looks to be resting on its laurels in mobile with Android. I’m a huge fan of Android 5.0 Lollipop but in hindsight was prioritising ‘Material Design’ (illustrated above) over combating performance, battery life and fragmentation issues really a wise move? After all Android’s native UI is the first thing most handset makers throw out the window.

Read more – iOS 8 vs Android 5.0 Lollipop Review: Material Difference

Similarly Google’s Nexus program continues to be woefully disorganised and wastes its potential while the promising ‘Google Play Editions’ program (and its mooted successor ‘Project Silver’) appear dead in the water. Even Google’s mobile apps feel somewhat unloved while the convergence of Android and Chrome OS continues at a snail’s pace.

So where is Google’s attention? Apparently moonshot projects. The company shouts excitedly about self driving cars, Internet delivering hot air balloons, revolutionary contact lenses, virtual reality cardboard headsets and glasses, modular smartphones and the painfully slow lottery-style roll out of its ‘Google Fibre’ gigabit broadband initiative.

How many of these improve its current market situation? None. Zip. Zilch. Zero.


I’m all for ambition and changing the world (changing the world again in Google’s case) but while these projects rise and fall Google is letting the basics slip:

The once lean Chrome browser remains a memory-hogging mess
Chrome OS lacks direction (the Pixel hasn’t been updated in two years)
Chromecast is 18 months old without an update and muddied by Android TV
Android roll-out times are getting longer and less transparent
Android Wear’s release was rushed and subsequent evolution is slow
Google+ is a ghost town
Google Wallet completely dropped the ball
Read more – Mad Google Is About To Mess Up Chromecast With An Apple TV Clone

In fact while Google is so focused on the next big thing Apple is picking its pocket in the same way Steve Jobs loved to do to Microsoft. Bigger smartphones, mobile payments, biometric security, streaming music services and cross platform sync are all ideas Google did first, but Apple has been first to do properly. Could the Apple Watch be next to embarrass Android Wear?

What’s more it isn’t only Apple having fun at Google’s expense, it is Microsoft and – worse still – Microsoft’s success is coming from copying how Google used to operate…

How Microsoft Is The New Google

So what was the old Google? In short: a trojan horse. It waltzed into any sector it liked proclaiming open standards and offering great services for free and these moves were subsidised by its earnings from ads.

Chrome, Gmail, Google Docs, Google Maps, YouTube and Google Search formed a holy core which burrowed into Windows, Mac OS X, iOS and Windows Mobile converting users to the Google ecosystem. Google then pulls or reduces support when they are no longer seen as a threat (BlackBerry OS, Windows Phone and even Chrome’s battery killing and dismal scrolling performance on Windows).

Microsoft is a long way from being in a position to consider this ruthless second stage (or maybe not), but the first moves are well underway. The once ludicrous idea that Outlook and Windows Calendar could cause disruption on iOS or Android is now no laughing matter as Microsoft bought and effectively rebadged best-of-breed email and calendar apps Acompli and Sunrise.


Project Spartan is Microsoft’s impending and wholly new cross-platform web browser which wisely targets speed. The Microsoft Band fitness tracker is platform neutral, Office has been opened up to all Cloud services to fight back against iWork, iCloud, Docs and Drive. Even Microsoft’s Analog Keyboard is the best app on Android Wear.

How does Microsoft get all these apps and services in users’ hands? Ingeniously the company has singled out Samsung, Google’s most important partner, as a delivery mechanism by ending its patent lawsuit in return for Samsung pre-installing Microsoft apps and services on the Galaxy S6 – the latest edition to what is by far Android’s best selling handset range.

Meanwhile Microsoft will give away Windows 10 (install guide here) and the company continues to develop its own Lumia phones and Surface hybrids to offer a higher standard of hardware for those who make the switch. Google’s Nexus program, eat your heart out.

Read more – Microsoft Attacks Microsoft: Why Windows 10 Gets It Right

Meanwhile Microsoft makes the point that it is still thinking big with arguably the most interesting moonshot program in all of tech right now: Windows Holographic. Holographic is an eye to the future to excite consumers and investors while the company still remains laser focused on the present.

How This Has Happened?

The shift in both Google and Microsoft comes from the same motivation: Fear.

Right now Microsoft has nothing to lose and Google has everything to lose. It is the exact opposite scenario that both companies faced in the past:

Previously Microsoft, rich from Windows and Office revenue, got complacent and felt it could ignore and even control technological trends from its dominant market position. Web services and mobile slipped by and Google, more than any other, put Microsoft to the sword.

Now Google is rich from web services and mobile. It has got complacent and seemingly believes it can ignore and even control technological trends from its dominant market position. Google dreams up sci-fi breakthroughs while Apple and now Microsoft pull the rug from under its feet in the present.

Mobile is not done, web services are not won, Android smartphone makers are struggling to stay profitable and the impact of Apple Pay is going to hurt.

As such Google turning into old Microsoft seems a natural but suicidal evolution. Not only is the company an easy target for Apple, but an even easier one for a rejuvenated Microsoft stealing moves from Google’s past playbook.

For Google the good news is it still has plenty of time to wise up. Microsoft is fighting from a long way back and Search, Adsense, Android, Google Maps and Gmail market positions aren’t going to be troubled any time soon. But it does beg the bigger question: does Google in its arrogance even realise it has a problem? After all it took Microsoft a decade…

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly ... ogle-swap/

Ima ovaj dosta dobrih argumenata...iskreno jedva čekam da vidim može li win10 dodatno "ugroziti" Google i pojačati konkurenciju, a što samo nama krajnim korisnicima može valjati!

[Quaresma]

totalna prekretnica odlaskom balmera

windows definitivno napada google, time što nudi haman pa za džaba windows, googleu je jedina prednost rekao bih opensource

i jos kad bi se više potrudili oko vlastitog os.a, sigurno bi microsoft mogao koliko toliko uzeti kolaca od googlea i iosa

[Maharadza]

totalna prekretnica odlaskom balmera

windows definitivno napada google, time što nudi haman pa za džaba windows, googleu je jedina prednost rekao bih opensource

i jos kad bi se više potrudili oko vlastitog os.a, sigurno bi microsoft mogao koliko toliko uzeti kolaca od googlea i iosa

Izgleda da su vidjeli šansu da chrome zamijeni ovaj njihov novi interni browser koji dolazi sa win10, pošto chrome stvarno ždere RAM pa i ostale resurse kako desktop tako i mobilna verzija (ja npr na mobilnom više koristim operu i dolphin - nuff said a i na kompu sam odnedavno opet u firefox taboru), a još ako win10 bude pokretao android aplikacije kao što sam negdje pročitao... Pored wp aplikacija i sync-a uređaja... Teško google-u.

[strong69]

Izgleda isto jer hw je isti a display je 5'' kod tebe tako da rade sve kerafeke koje iskorištavaju veći display. Znaš za fintu da držiš win dugme da spusti "ekran" dole da lakše dohvatiš gornji red...

Izgleda bolje zbog veceg displeja. Pogotovo office aplikacije koje su preglednije na L1520. Znam za spustanje ekrana. Nije toliko neophodno za L930 ali za veci telefon svakako odlicna stvar.

Jedini problem koji imam sa ovom verzijom 10-ke je prebrzo praznjenje baterije.

[zippoo87]

ljudi,imam ponudu da uzmem lumiu 640 dual sim za 200 KM ali je izgleda ona uzeta preko eroneta na pretplatu
e zanima me da li se i dual sim zakljucani,mada po nekoj logici ne bi trebalo biti i jesu li ovi iz eroneta bez gresaka i tako to ?
meni ovo izgleda kao dobra cijena,placanje kesom ?

[purgatorio]

ljudi,imam ponudu da uzmem lumiu 640 dual sim za 200 KM ali je izgleda ona uzeta preko eroneta na pretplatu
e zanima me da li se i dual sim zakljucani,mada po nekoj logici ne bi trebalo biti i jesu li ovi iz eroneta bez gresaka i tako to ?
meni ovo izgleda kao dobra cijena,placanje kesom ?

Ja sam uzeo u eronetu. Prvi SIM je zakljucan, drugi otkljucan. Nemam problema nikakvih.

[zippoo87]

ljudi,imam ponudu da uzmem lumiu 640 dual sim za 200 KM ali je izgleda ona uzeta preko eroneta na pretplatu
e zanima me da li se i dual sim zakljucani,mada po nekoj logici ne bi trebalo biti i jesu li ovi iz eroneta bez gresaka i tako to ?
meni ovo izgleda kao dobra cijena,placanje kesom ?

Ja sam uzeo u eronetu. Prvi SIM je zakljucan, drugi otkljucan. Nemam problema nikakvih.

ono kada neko nesto prodaje ali ne bi da posalje...valjda bih ja sada trebao opucati u Livno zbog telefona

[zippoo87]

nakon sto se ipak odlucio da mi posalje postom...javlja mi da ga je upravo prodao
svakakvih cirkusanata na ovom piku haha

[Qler]

Na androidu su preko 150MB... Jebi ga, valja napraviti office oaket pandan desktop verziji od par giga... Full text formatiranje, rad sa tablicama, svašta nešto...

Ne laži:

Word - 105MB
Excel - 93MB
PowerPoint - 91MB

Samo za ovo ne lazi, evo sad promijinio andorid teleofon, uzeo drugi i zapade mi za oko ovo sto lazem...


Word 169MB
Excell 160MB
Office lens 97,76MB
OneNote 69,30MB



E sad, sto ja na WP-u imam opciju da mi direktno snima na SD karticu, pa me i ne tangira toliko zauzece prostora, jer pored 32GB na 1520 imam jos i 32GB SD karticu...

[escobar__]

Evo Telekom daje jednu Lumiu džaba (435) uz jednu kupljenu (830):

[zippoo87]

Evo Telekom daje jednu Lumiu džaba (435) uz jednu kupljenu (830):

fino je dobiti jos jedan uredjaj besplatno ali kada vidim cicjenu lumie 830 od 781 KM...zamanta mi se
pa lumia 640,koja je skoro pa identicna po specifikacijama,osim kamere je skoro tri puta jeftinija od ovog
jedino ko ima jace pakete pretplate...dobije dva uredjaja za OK cijenu
ja ganjam 640 model a nikako da ga ubace u ponudu

edit:
evo upravo slusam radio stari grad i na njemu reklama da su ubaceni Lumia 640 i 640 XL...odoh vidjeti
na stranici nema nista...a reklama pici na radiju ...to mi bas nekako lici na telekom i njihove fule

[ElRe]

https://www.bhtelecom.ba/portalnovost+M5cd65a9eee4.html

Za pohvaliti

[Qler]

Koliko visim dual sim 435, bar je ona na slici...

[purgatorio]

Ja sam uzeo u Eronetu 310 KM hej paket dual sim lumia 640. Bilo mi pametnije nego u univerzalnom davati 280 za nesto upitnog porijekla i garancije.

Eh sad pitanje. Mob radi extra osim jedne stvari. Push notifikacije za viber, whatsup etc sve kasne tacno 3 minute. Poziv na viberu - mobitel ne zvoni vec nakon minut dobijem missed call. Kako ovo rijesiti? Probao sam reinstall, battery saver off, limitirao background tasks za neke app sto mi ne trebaju ali nista nije rijesilo problem. Da li bi reset nesto pomogao?

[south]

700KM dati za 830 pfffff ne pada mi na pamet Bh telecom

http://www.olx.ba/artikal/17820357/noki ... -830-gold/ (crno - zlatna)
http://www.olx.ba/artikal/17926444/nokia-lumia-830/

[Qler]

Mozda preko firme uzmem tu 830 za punicu Da ne bude da samo mufa ima dobre odnose sa punicom

[zippoo87]

Ja sam uzeo u Eronetu 310 KM hej paket dual sim lumia 640. Bilo mi pametnije nego u univerzalnom davati 280 za nesto upitnog porijekla i garancije.

Eh sad pitanje. Mob radi extra osim jedne stvari. Push notifikacije za viber, whatsup etc sve kasne tacno 3 minute. Poziv na viberu - mobitel ne zvoni vec nakon minut dobijem missed call. Kako ovo rijesiti? Probao sam reinstall, battery saver off, limitirao background tasks za neke app sto mi ne trebaju ali nista nije rijesilo problem. Da li bi reset nesto pomogao?

to nema veze sa mobitelom
poznato je da viber lose radi na svim platformama ali izgleda najlosije na WP
pola ove teme je ispisano upravo o viberu ...nekome radi super,nekome ne radi...izgleda da i nema pravila

[krakatoa]

Windows mrzci sa Balkanandroid sajta lupaju ko Makim po diviziji

Jedna jako zanimljiva glasina je osvanula danas na internetu, a to je da je Microsoft možda odlučio odustati od Windows Phone-a i od sada uređaje isporučivati sa Android operativnim sistemom.

Iako se kompanija sprema da zvanično predstavi Windows 10 Mobile, glavna izvršna direktorica Microsofta Satya Nadella izjavila je da je Microsoft u zadnje vrijeme “donio teške odluke u poljima gdje stvari i ne idu baš najbolje”, i mnogi vjeruju da je nagovještaj onoga što dolazi.

Ovo bi definitivno bio dobar korak za kompaniju ako žele da poboljšaju posao sa mobilnim uređajima, i Android se čini najbolja opcija za to. No, šta god da se desi, očekuje se da Microsoft predstavi dva nova vodeća uređaja ove godine, i oba će raditi na Windows 10 Mobile operativnim sistemom.

http://balkanandroid.com/microsoft-odus ... s-phone-a/

U trenutku kada se očekuje da windows 10 smrvi android, ovi pišu bajke.

Svega na ovom internetu

[Maharadza]

Na androidu su preko 150MB... Jebi ga, valja napraviti office oaket pandan desktop verziji od par giga... Full text formatiranje, rad sa tablicama, svašta nešto...

Ne laži:

Word - 105MB
Excel - 93MB
PowerPoint - 91MB

Samo za ovo ne lazi, evo sad promijinio andorid teleofon, uzeo drugi i zapade mi za oko ovo sto lazem...


Word 169MB
Excell 160MB
Office lens 97,76MB
OneNote 69,30MB



E sad, sto ja na WP-u imam opciju da mi direktno snima na SD karticu, pa me i ne tangira toliko zauzece prostora, jer pored 32GB na 1520 imam jos i 32GB SD karticu...

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...ili si jednostavno ćorav!

[Mehemed]

Toliko kad skidaš, a kada se raspakuje i instalira više

[Maharadza]

Onda se nismo razumjeli, my bad & sorry!

[KAMI666]

700KM dati za 830 pfffff ne pada mi na pamet Bh telecom

http://www.olx.ba/artikal/17820357/noki ... -830-gold/ (crno - zlatna)
http://www.olx.ba/artikal/17926444/nokia-lumia-830/

lumia 830 kosta u EU 460 KM, nova novcata, otkljucana za sve mreze.

[Quaresma]

Windows mrzci sa Balkanandroid sajta lupaju ko Makim po diviziji

Jedna jako zanimljiva glasina je osvanula danas na internetu, a to je da je Microsoft možda odlučio odustati od Windows Phone-a i od sada uređaje isporučivati sa Android operativnim sistemom.

Iako se kompanija sprema da zvanično predstavi Windows 10 Mobile, glavna izvršna direktorica Microsofta Satya Nadella izjavila je da je Microsoft u zadnje vrijeme “donio teške odluke u poljima gdje stvari i ne idu baš najbolje”, i mnogi vjeruju da je nagovještaj onoga što dolazi.

Ovo bi definitivno bio dobar korak za kompaniju ako žele da poboljšaju posao sa mobilnim uređajima, i Android se čini najbolja opcija za to. No, šta god da se desi, očekuje se da Microsoft predstavi dva nova vodeća uređaja ove godine, i oba će raditi na Windows 10 Mobile operativnim sistemom.

http://balkanandroid.com/microsoft-odus ... s-phone-a/

U trenutku kada se očekuje da windows 10 smrvi android, ovi pišu bajke.

Svega na ovom internetu

izvrsna direktorica satya nadella

[krakatoa]

Windows mrzci sa Balkanandroid sajta lupaju ko Makim po diviziji

Jedna jako zanimljiva glasina je osvanula danas na internetu, a to je da je Microsoft možda odlučio odustati od Windows Phone-a i od sada uređaje isporučivati sa Android operativnim sistemom.

Iako se kompanija sprema da zvanično predstavi Windows 10 Mobile, glavna izvršna direktorica Microsofta Satya Nadella izjavila je da je Microsoft u zadnje vrijeme “donio teške odluke u poljima gdje stvari i ne idu baš najbolje”, i mnogi vjeruju da je nagovještaj onoga što dolazi.

Ovo bi definitivno bio dobar korak za kompaniju ako žele da poboljšaju posao sa mobilnim uređajima, i Android se čini najbolja opcija za to. No, šta god da se desi, očekuje se da Microsoft predstavi dva nova vodeća uređaja ove godine, i oba će raditi na Windows 10 Mobile operativnim sistemom.

http://balkanandroid.com/microsoft-odus ... s-phone-a/

U trenutku kada se očekuje da windows 10 smrvi android, ovi pišu bajke.

Svega na ovom internetu

izvrsna direktorica satya nadella

Jao koji fail, to nisam ni vidio