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Na naslov sam se obradovao :thumbup: , al' kad sam pogledao video, poš'o sam se smijat...'ta je ba ono? Što ne poleti nijednom nego ga samo lola voza po pisti :lol: Još ono muzika zeznuta i to...

http://balkans.aljazeera.net/vijesti/vi ... beni-avion

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Unutra Golf II TDI :lol:
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Kako ono Ahmedinedžad diskvalifikovan? Bio predsjednik, pa sad više ne može? Ja dobre demokratije.
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insomnia78 wrote:Sto nam ovo nema Salika?
Sad bi on nama sliku ajatolaha kako se tuca s nekom babom prilozio kao dokaz multikulture iranaca :lol:
Saličeee
Bio na zasluzenom :? odmoru :D

Mislis nesto ovako:

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President Hassan Rouhani on Thursday visited a number of the Iranian elderly Christians in Tehran’s St. Mary Hospice

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:-x :thumbup:
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Iranian TV executive shot dead in Istanbul, Turkish media report

Saeed Karimian, founder of Farsi-language network GEM TV, reportedly shot dead along with his Kuwaiti business partner

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... ia-reports
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By James M. Dorsey

Pakistani General Raheel Sharif walked into a hornet’s nest when he stepped off a private jet in Riyadh two weeks ago to take command of a Saudi-led, 41-nation military alliance. Things have gone from bad to worse since.

General Shareef had barely landed when Saudi Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman dashed the Pakistani’s hopes to include Iran in the alliance that nominally was created to fight terrorism rather than confront Iran.

The general’s hopes were designed to balance Pakistan’s close alliance with Saudia Arabia with the fact that it shares a volatile border with Iran and is home to the world’s second largest Shiite Muslim community. General Sharif’s ambition had already been rendered Mission Impossible before he landed with Saudi Arabia charging that Iran constitutes the world’s foremost terrorist threat.

In a recent interview with the Saudi-owned Middle East Broadcasting television network, Prince Mohammed, who also serves as the kingdom’s defense minister, has toughened Saudi Arabia’s stance. Prince Mohammed appeared in line with statements by a senior US military official to hold out the possibility of exploiting aspirations of ethnic minorities in Iran to weaken its Islamic regime.

In doing so, Prince Mohammed and General Joseph L. Voltel, head of US Central Command, seemed to raise the spectre of increased violence in Balochistan, a volatile, once independent region that straddles both sides of the Iranian-Pakistani border, as well as in the Iranian province of Khuzestan, the Islamic republic’s oil-rich region that is home to Iranians of Arab descent.

Ethnic and sectarian proxy wars could embroil rivals China and India in the Saudi-Iranian dispute. The deep-sea port of Gwadar in Balochistan is a lynchpin of China’s One Belt, One Road initiative, and a mere 70 kilometres from the Indian-backed port of Chabahar in Iran, viewed by Saudi Arabia as a potential threat to one of the most important sea routes facilitating the flow of oil from the Gulf to Asia.

The risk of China’s initiative as well as its regional rivalry with India becoming a Saudi-Iranian battleground appeared to increase with Prince Mohammed’s warning that the battle between the two regional powers would be fought “inside Iran, not in Saudi Arabia.”

In his interview, Prince Mohammed not only ruled out talks with Iran but painted the two countries’ rivalry in sectarian terms. The prince asserted that Iran, a predominantly Shiite country, believes that “the Imam Mahdi (the redeemer) will come and they must prepare the fertile environment for the arrival of the awaited Mahdi and they must control the Muslim world…. “How do you have a dialogue with this?” Prince Mohammed asked.

Saudi Arabia had already signalled its support for Iranian dissidents when last July former Saudi intelligence chief and ambassador to the United States and Britain, Prince Turki al-Faisal, attended a rally in Paris organized by the exiled People’s Mujahedin Organization of Iran or Mujahedin-e-Khalq, a militant left-wing group that advocates the overthrow of Iran’s Islamic regime and traces its roots to resistance against the shah who was toppled in the 1979 revolution. “Your legitimate struggle against the (Iranian) regime will achieve its goal, sooner or later. I, too, want the fall of the regime,” Prince Turki told the rally.

Since then, General Voltel, avoiding any reference to sectarianism, told the US Senate Armed Services Committee, that “in order to contain Iranian expansion, roll back its malign influence, and blunt its asymmetric advantages, we must engage them more effectively in the ‘grey zone’ through means that include a strong deterrence posture, targeted counter-messaging activities, and by building partner nations’ capacity… (We) believe that by taking proactive measures and reinforcing our resolve we can lessen Iran’s ability to negatively influence outcomes in the future.,” General Voltel said.

Prince Mohammed did not spell out how he intends to take Saudi Arabia’s fight to Iran, but a Saudi think tank, the Arabian Gulf Centre for Iranian Studies (AGCIS) argued in a recent study that Chabahar posed “a direct threat to the Arab Gulf states” that called for “immediate counter measures.”

Written by Mohammed Hassan Husseinbor, identified as an Iranian political researcher, the study, published in the first edition of AGCIS’ Journal of Iranian Studies, argued that Chabahar posed a threat because it would enable Iran to increase greater market share in India for its oil exports at the expense of Saudi Arabia, raise foreign investment in the Islamic republic and increase government revenues, and allow Iran to project power in the Gulf and the Indian Ocean.

Mr. Husseinbor suggested Saudi support for a low-level Baloch insurgency in Iran could serve as a countermeasure. “Saudis could persuade Pakistan to soften its opposition to any potential Saudi support for the Iranian Baluch... The Arab-Baluch alliance is deeply rooted in the history of the Gulf region and their opposition to Persian domination,” Mr. Husseinbor said.

Noting the vast expanses of Iran’s Sistan and Baluchestan Province, Mr. Husseinbor went on to say that “it would be a formidable challenge, if not impossible, for the Iranian government to protect such long distances and secure Chabahar in the face of widespread Baluch opposition, particularly if this opposition is supported by Iran’s regional adversaries and world powers.”

The conservative Washington-based Hudson Institute, which is believed to have developed close ties to the Trump administration, has also taken up the theme of ethnic minorities in Iran. The institute has scheduled a seminar for later this month that features as speakers Baloch, Iranian Arab, Iranian Kurdish and Iranian Azerbaijani nationalists.

Saudi Arabia may already have the building blocks in place for a proxy war in Balochistan. Saudi-funded ultra-conservative Sunni Muslim madrassas operated by anti-Shiite militants dominate Balochistan’s educational landscape.

“A majority of Baloch schoolchildren go to madrassas. They are in better condition than other schools in Balochistan. Most madrassas are operated by Deobandis and Ahl-i-Hadith,” said one of the founders of Sipah-i-Sabaha, a virulent anti-Shiite group that is believed to enjoy Saudi and Pakistani support.

Although officially renamed Ahle Sunnah Wa Al Jamaat after Sipah was banned in Pakistan, the group is still often referred to by its original name. The co-founder, who has since left the group but maintains close ties to it, was referring to the Deobandi sect of Islam, a Saudi backed ultra-conservative, anti-Shiite movement originally established in India in the 19th century to counter British colonial rule, and Ahl-i-Hadith, the religious-political group in Pakistan with the longest ties to the kingdom. The co-founder said the mosques funnelled Saudi funds to the militants.

The co-founder said the leaders in Balochistan of Sipah and Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ), a Sipah offshoot, Maulana Ramzan Mengal and Maulana Wali Farooqi, enjoyed government and military protection because their anti-Shiite sentiments made them targets for Iran. He said the two men, who maintained close ties to Saudi Arabia, travelled in Balochistan in convoys of up to ten vehicles that included Pakistan military guards. Policemen stand guard outside Mr. Mengal’s madrassa, the co-founder said.

“Ramzan gets whatever he needs from the Saudis,” the co-founder said. Close relations between Sipah and LeJ, on the one hand, and pro-government tribesmen in Balochistan complicate irregular government efforts to reign in the militants. So does the militant’s involvement in drugs smuggling that gives them an independent source of funding.

Iran has accused the United States, Saudi Arabia and Pakistani intelligence of supporting anti-Iranian militants in Balochistan, including Jundallah (Soldiers of God), an offshoot of Sipah. Jundallah, founded by Abdolmalek Rigi, a charismatic member of a powerful Baloch tribe, was one of several anti-Iranian groups that enjoyed US and Saudi support as part of US President George W. Bush’s effort to undermine the government in Tehran.

Mr. Rigi was captured when a flight he took from the Kyrgyz capital of Bishkek to Dubai was diverted at Iran’s request to Sharjah in 2010. He was executed in Iran. Pakistani forces have at times cooperated with Iran in detaining militants, including Mr. Rigi’s brother, Abdolhamid Rigi, but have often insisted that they are overwhelmed by internal security problems, and could not prioritize securing the border with the Islamic republic. “Our policy has been consistently anti-Iran,” said Khalid Ahmad, an author and journalist who focuses on militants.

Jundullah’s US contact point in the early 2000s was reported to be Thomas McHale, a 56-year-old hard-charging, brusque and opinionated Port Authority of New York and New Jersey detective and former ironworker, who had travelled to Pakistan and Afghanistan as part of his work for a Joint Terrorism Task Force in Newark. Known for his disdain for bureaucratic restrictions, Mr. McHale maintained contact with Jundallah and members of the Rigi tribe in an off-the-books operation.

Mr. McHale, a survivor of the 1993 attack on New York’s World Trade Towers, had made a name for himself by rescuing survivors of the 9/11 attack on the towers. He played himself in Oliver Stone’s movie, World Trade Center, in which Nicolas Cage starred as a Port Authority police officer.

Jundallah ambushed a motorcade of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in 2005 but failed to kill him.

Mr. Rigi’s boyish, grinning face became as a result of the ambush the defining image of Baluch jihad in Iran. A year later, the group bombed a bus carrying Iranian Revolutionary Guards. Jundallah and associated groups such as Jaish al-Adly (Army of Justice), another Sipah offshoot, have since targeted Iranian border posts, Revolutionary Guards, police officers, convoys and Shiite mosques.

General Sharif and Pakistan’s position were not made easier with the recent killing by Jaish al Adl militants operating from Pakistani Balochistan of ten Iranian border guards and with Iran’s expressions of displeasure with the general’s appointment as commander of the Saudi-led military alliance.

US officials insisted in Mr. McHale’s time that government agencies had not directed or ever approved Jundallah operations. The US designated Jundallah as a terrorist organization in 2010, but that did not stop Sunni Muslim militant anti-Iranian operations. In what analysts see as an indication of Saudi influence, Jaish al-Adel issues its statements in Arabic rather than Baluchi or Farsi.

In response, Iran has attacked the militants and raided villages in Balochistan. Arif Saleem, a 42-year old villager recalls being woken in the wee hours of the morning in November 2013 when bombs dropped just outside the mud walls that surround his family compound in Kulauhi, 67 kilometres from the Pakistani border with Iran. Located in a district that is an epicentre of a low-level proxy war with Iran, Kulauhi’s residents survive on subsistence farming and smuggling. “Some buildings collapsed. Luckily, none of the kids were inside those. The blast was so strong, we thought the world was ending,” said Saleem, convinced that Iranian planes from an airbase on the Iranian side of the border carried out the bombing.

The spectre of ethnic proxy wars threatens to further destabilize the Gulf as well as Pakistan. The Baloch insurgency in Pakistani Balochistan has complicated Chinese plans to develop Gwadar and forced Pakistan to take extraordinary security precautions. A stepped-up proxy war could embroil Indian-backed Chabahar in the conflict. The wars could, moreover, spread to Iran’s Khuzestan and Saudi Arabia’s Eastern Province.

Writing in 2012 in Asharq Al Awsat, a Saudi newspaper, Amal Al-Hazzani, an academic who has since been dropped from the paper’s roster after she wrote positively about Israel, asserted in an op-ed entitled “The oppressed Arab district of al-Ahwaz“ that “the al-Ahwaz district in Iran...is an Arab territory... Its Arab residents have been facing continual repression ever since the Persian state assumed control of the region in 1925... It is imperative that the Arabs take up the al-Ahwaz cause, at least from the humanitarian perspective.” Other Arab commentators have since opined in a similar fashion.

Fuelling ethnic tensions risks Iran responding in kind. Saudi Arabia has long accused Iran of instigating low level violence and protests in its predominantly Shiite oil-rich Eastern Province as well as being behind the brutally squashed popular revolt in majority Shiite Bahrain and intermittent violence since. Rather than resolving conflicts, a Saudi-Iranian war fought with ethnic and religious proxies threatens to escalate violence in both the Gulf and South Asia.
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GIVI wrote:General Shareef had barely landed when Saudi Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman dashed the Pakistani’s hopes to include Iran in the alliance that nominally was created to fight terrorism rather than confront Iran.

A babo mu je, birvaktile, ovako plesao "rafidiji" :oops:



Doduse, tad' nije bio "rafidija", nego "brat musliman". :D
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Riza Altun, jedan od lidera PKK, govori o opasnostima po Iran u narednom periodu!

Syria and Iraq could spread to Iran: PKK foreign relations head

https://komnews.org/war-in-syria-and-ir ... -head/amp/

Veoma realno razmisljanje po meni...
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Ruhani novi-stari predsjednik prema prvim rezultatima osvojio više od 60% glasova.
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Krokodajl wrote:Ruhani novi-stari predsjednik prema prvim rezultatima osvojio više od 60% glasova.
Jesi li upratio kako je prošao u Teheranu?
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Challenger__ wrote:
Krokodajl wrote:Ruhani novi-stari predsjednik prema prvim rezultatima osvojio više od 60% glasova.
Jesi li upratio kako je prošao u Teheranu?
Nisam, ovo sa BBC Farsi, prvi rezultati na 15 miliona izbrojanih, 8 Ruhani 6 Raisi, Teheran nije još prebrojan ali mislim da će i u Teheranu pobjediti i prošli puta je.
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Izvuce se od cuvanja ovaca za razliku od one dvojice
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Bake salji telegram
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Gradonačelnik Teherana Muhamed Halibaf se inače prije par dana povukao iz utrke, optužio Ruhanija za sve i svašta, i podržao Raisija, eh sad.

Ne znam iskreno koliko su ga stanovnici Teherana poslušali, Halibaf je imao veću podršku od Raisija u kampanji, a mislim da ga njegovi glasači u Teheranu nisu u potpunosti poslušali.

Dan poslije trenutni poptredsjednik Irana Džahangiri se povukao iz utrke i podržao Ruhanija.

Pobjeda Ruhanija je znak nastavka dobri diplomatskih odnosa Irana i Rusije ali i otvorenih vrata Irana prema zapadu, nastavak modernizacije društva, i vjerujem i ekonomskog napretka.

Ruhanija je inače podržala i stranka Kurdski Nacionalni Front, koja okuplja Kurde u Iranu, dobio je podršku većine umjerenih snaga i dijela radikala, sa druge strane većina radikala i konzervativaca su podržali Raisija.
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Sta kazu mule. Ko je njihov favorit?
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Krokodajl wrote:Gradonačelnik Teherana Muhamed Halibaf se inače prije par dana povukao iz utrke, optužio Ruhanija za sve i svašta, i podržao Raisija, eh sad.

Ne znam iskreno koliko su ga stanovnici Teherana poslušali, Halibaf je imao veću podršku od Raisija u kampanji, a mislim da ga njegovi glasači u Teheranu nisu u potpunosti poslušali.

Dan poslije trenutni poptredsjednik Irana Džahangiri se povukao iz utrke i podržao Ruhanija.

Pobjeda Ruhanija je znak nastavka dobri diplomatskih odnosa Irana i Rusije ali i otvorenih vrata Irana prema zapadu, nastavak modernizacije društva, i vjerujem i ekonomskog napretka.

Ruhanija je inače podržala i stranka Kurdski Nacionalni Front, koja okuplja Kurde u Iranu, dobio je podršku većine umjerenih snaga i dijela radikala, sa druge strane većina radikala i konzervativaca su podržali Raisija.
Teheran, lopatom:
Unofficial, Tehran result:
4,233,611 #Rouhani
1,448,902 #Raeisi
:arrow: LINK
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Čestitka iranskom narodu na izborima! Pokazali su da su 100 godina ispred vehabija i turaka.

Hasan Ruhani je novi-stari predsjednik Irana! Sjajno!
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insomnia78 wrote:Unutra Golf II TDI :lol:
Unutra je J85 turbo jet, motor aviona F5, koji se proizvodio od 50tih godina pa sve do 1988 (General Electric). Iran je razvio vlastitu kopiju. Po meni, vrijedno respekta. Samo Amerika i Rusija imaju savremene motore kako treba, a čak ni Kina ne može da napravi dobar turbo fan (iako su uložili desetine milijardi dolara u razvoj onog, kako se zvaše, ws motora). J85 je zastario motor, ali realno, od Irana se ne može očekivati više.

Btw golf 2 tdi nije postojao, smanji mali alkohol i travu
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Maystor wrote:
insomnia78 wrote:Unutra Golf II TDI :lol:
Unutra je J85 turbo jet, motor aviona F5, koji se proizvodio od 50tih godina pa sve do 1988 (General Electric). Iran je razvio vlastitu kopiju. Po meni, vrijedno respekta. Samo Amerika i Rusija imaju savremene motore kako treba, a čak ni Kina ne može da napravi dobar turbo fan (iako su uložili desetine milijardi dolara u razvoj onog, kako se zvaše, ws motora). J85 je zastario motor, ali realno, od Irana se ne može očekivati više.

Btw golf 2 tdi nije postojao, smanji mali alkohol i travu
Vidiš da dokoni dijasporac ne zna šta će od sebe pa pljuje po svemu, nije vrijedan odgovora.
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Maystor wrote:
insomnia78 wrote:Unutra Golf II TDI :lol:
Unutra je J85 turbo jet, motor aviona F5, koji se proizvodio od 50tih godina pa sve do 1988 (General Electric). Iran je razvio vlastitu kopiju. Po meni, vrijedno respekta. Samo Amerika i Rusija imaju savremene motore kako treba, a čak ni Kina ne može da napravi dobar turbo fan (iako su uložili desetine milijardi dolara u razvoj onog, kako se zvaše, ws motora). J85 je zastario motor, ali realno, od Irana se ne može očekivati više.

Btw golf 2 tdi nije postojao, smanji mali alkohol i travu
J85 se ne moze porediti s modernim turbofanima, ali opet je zanimljiv motor (dosta resursa, jeftino odrzavanje itd)... Opet, problem je sto nije turbofan, pa ga je malo debilno koristiti na modernim borbenim avionima.

Recimo, kada je Northrop napravio YF-17, koristili su osnovni dizajn F-5 (N152), ali su ugradili low-bypass turbofan motore koji nisu bili pretjerano napredni ili efikasni, ali su opet bili turbofan - pa su mogli koristiti laksu konstrukciju i materijale, jer je i taj mali bypass znacio da ce se motori dosta manje grijati. Takodjer, turbofan je neuporedivo bolji i zbog manje emisije toplote radi tezeg otkrivanja cilja.

Fin motor, ali nema mjesta u stealthy avionima iz navedenog razloga - jer ce ga IRST detektovati dosta lakse nego avion s modernim turbofan motorima.

Kina sa WS-11 i Indija sa Kaverijem su pravili nesto potpuno drugo, motore koji bi parirali najmodernijim zapadnim i ruskim modelima, koji bi se koristili i u petoj generaciji lovaca. J85 se koristio u drugoj i trecoj, iskljucivo za lake avione poput F-5... U isto vrijeme, dosta veci J79 se koristio za "ozbiljne" avione poput F-4 i sl. (Mislim da jedan J79 ima potisak kao tri J85). Zadnja generacija F-5 je dobila J79 koji joj je omogucio impresivne performanse, jer je imao bolji odnos snage i potiska od prvih generacija F-16, ali to je vec bio potpuno drugi avion, pa je i dobio izvoznu oznaku F-20 Tigershark ako se ne varam. Nazalost, nije usao u serijsku proizvodnju jer je SAD odlucila ukloniti ogranicenja na izvoz first-tier aviona poput F-16.

U biti, napraviti J85 i nije neko dostignuce s danasnjom tehnologijom, kao sto ni Jugoslaviji nije bio problem po licenci raditi prastare RR turbojet motore i remontovati ih za vlastite potrebe. Uostalom, Iran koristi J85 jos od sredine sezdesetih, kada su dobili prve generacije F-5 (A/B), a od 1979. se snalaze sami... Tako da su imali 38 godina za reverse engineering jednostavnog turbojet motora koji je 50tih dizajniran fakticki za jednokratnu upotrebu (J85 je originalno bio namijenjen za krstarece rakete, mamce za SAC flotu B-52ojki poput Quaila i bespilotne dronove za vjezbe gadjanja)
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Challenger__ wrote:
Teheran, lopatom:
Unofficial, Tehran result:
4,233,611 #Rouhani
1,448,902 #Raeisi
:arrow: LINK
Za koga li je naš Salihaga glaso? :D
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Maystor wrote:
insomnia78 wrote:Unutra Golf II TDI :lol:
Unutra je J85 turbo jet, motor aviona F5, koji se proizvodio od 50tih godina pa sve do 1988 (General Electric). Iran je razvio vlastitu kopiju. Po meni, vrijedno respekta. Samo Amerika i Rusija imaju savremene motore kako treba, a čak ni Kina ne može da napravi dobar turbo fan (iako su uložili desetine milijardi dolara u razvoj onog, kako se zvaše, ws motora). J85 je zastario motor, ali realno, od Irana se ne može očekivati više.

Btw golf 2 tdi nije postojao, smanji mali alkohol i travu
Majstore jel on leti il ga onako prvom vozaju po pisti?
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Odlicno da je Rouhani pobijedio, i to debelo.

Izgleda da je Trump ucinio veliku uslugu cijelom svijetu izbornom pobjedom u Americi. Poslije njega -- potop (njega samog a i populizma). Valjda nece ni Putinko jos dugo.
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Galski trole, triput sam provjerio da nije opet fotomontaža i ovo vozanje po pisti, izgleda da je ovaj put stvarno u pitanju neki prototip. Nisam siguran da će ovo ikada poletjeti, ali to nije razlog za potcjenjivanje. Svaka njima čast kad su napravili i ovo.
Neko moje viđenje: Iran ne može napraviti moderan ratni avion, nemaju resurse za to. Njihova doktrina je zasnovana na asimetriji (nemaju nosač aviona, ali zato imaju hiljade brzih čamaca koji lansiraju male rakete i torpeda, nijedan veliki brod im ne bi umakao u samom zaljevu).
Mislim da se trebaju okrenuti dronovima, savladati tehniku fly-by-wire i sat comm (satelite već imaju). Time bi bili gazde u svom okruženju. Na onoj điđi rq170 je motor zadnje generacije, kad bi ono mogli prekopirat to bi bila puna šaka brade.
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