86-te
A ne znam da li se iko sjeca kad su prosle godine, meni se cini u nekoj sumi kod Beca pronasli oruzje sto su ga skrivali jer su ocekivali prosirenje sukoba"
Amerika i ratni zlocini
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savjest
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Da da Toronto je "stara baza". Ja imam rodbine koja je 86 emigrirala u Toronto i pricali su kad su ujjutro upalili radio i od jednom naidu na jednu stanicu gdje se prica "nas".. i prvo se obradovali tom otkricu kad malo kasnije voditelj ce sljedece " dobro jutro braco cetnici, 8 je sati slusate taj i taj radio"(ne sjecam se kako se zvao)
86-te
A ne znam da li se iko sjeca kad su prosle godine, meni se cini u nekoj sumi kod Beca pronasli oruzje sto su ga skrivali jer su ocekivali prosirenje sukoba"
86-te
A ne znam da li se iko sjeca kad su prosle godine, meni se cini u nekoj sumi kod Beca pronasli oruzje sto su ga skrivali jer su ocekivali prosirenje sukoba"
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Fair Life
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Jesi li ti onaj Mirsad_ZE iz rokeri sa Moravu?Mirsad_ZE wrote:A jel vi gore iznad jel zaista mislite da nema NIJEDAN BOSNJAK koji je u USA dosao kao izbjeglica a da nije malo lagao kada je popunjavao aplikaciju. Vidjecemo sta ce se u buducnosti desavati.
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Fair Life
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Istina nikad nije na povrsini, pogotovo ako je "neudobna". Zato prekopati... prekopati uzduz i poprijeko.pitt wrote:pa znas kako to ide....ameri ce sve prekopati da ti nadju nesto sa cime te mogu ucjenjivati....ako ne nadju izmislit ce
Mislim da je sad panika po cikagu
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Serbs arrested in Phoenix were in Army around time of massacre
BETH DeFALCO
The Associated Press
PHOENIX - Twenty Bosnian Serbs taken into custody here by federal authorities served in the Serbian Army around the time Bosnian Serb troops allegedly massacred thousands of Muslims in the region's ethnic conflict.
Andrew Pacheco, an assistant U.S. Attorney for Arizona, said U.S. authorities received military information from the United Nation's International Criminal Tribunal of the former Yugoslavia about the Serbs living in Phoenix.
All 20, living as refugees here, were in one of two brigades stationed in Srebrenica - the site of a massacre in July 1995, shortly before the end of the Bosnian war.
Pacheco said federal authorities "do not allege that these people committed any type of wartime atrocity while in the Serbian Army."
The Serbian brigades reportedly had more than a thousand soldiers in each.
Federal indictments filed Wednesday against the 13 Bosnian Serbs accused them of committing fraud by omitting on their immigration applications that they served in Serbia's Army of the Republic of Srpska. The seven others face deportation hearings on similar charges.
A spokesman for Immigration and Customs Enforcement has said the seven detained would have been charged criminally for failing to declare their past military service but the statute of limitation ran out.
All immigrants applying for refugee status and legal residency are required to declare prior military service.
"Their failure to list their military service precluded U.S. authorities from engaging in a line of questioning that would have helped determine what their wartime activities were," said Pacheco.
Since their apprehension this week, all 20 were approached by immigration and FBI investigators for questioning, Pacheco said.
The refugees arrested this week were stationed in brigades in the northeastern towns of Zvornik or Bratunac, Pacheco said.
Srebrenica fell to Bosnian Serb forces on July 11, 1995. The Bosnian Serbs then killed some 8,000 Muslim men and boys, Europe's worst massacre of civilians since World War II. The remains of the victims were buried in mass graves around Srebrenica.
Several top Serb military and political officials already are serving sentences for war crimes in Srebrenica.
Last year, four Bosnian Serbs living in Phoenix were also arrested and charged with lying on immigration paperwork.
Three are awaiting trial. One, Zdravko Bozic, pleaded guilty and was sentenced in March to a year in prison. After serving his sentence, he'll be turned over to immigration officials for possible deportation, the U.S. Attorney's Office said.
According to court documents, all four arrested in 2004 are believed to have been assigned to the Drina Corps in the Bratunac Brigade in 1995.
Earlier rulings by the U.N. tribunal have established that the Bosnian Serb Drina Corps led the attack on Srebrenica.
BETH DeFALCO
The Associated Press
PHOENIX - Twenty Bosnian Serbs taken into custody here by federal authorities served in the Serbian Army around the time Bosnian Serb troops allegedly massacred thousands of Muslims in the region's ethnic conflict.
Andrew Pacheco, an assistant U.S. Attorney for Arizona, said U.S. authorities received military information from the United Nation's International Criminal Tribunal of the former Yugoslavia about the Serbs living in Phoenix.
All 20, living as refugees here, were in one of two brigades stationed in Srebrenica - the site of a massacre in July 1995, shortly before the end of the Bosnian war.
Pacheco said federal authorities "do not allege that these people committed any type of wartime atrocity while in the Serbian Army."
The Serbian brigades reportedly had more than a thousand soldiers in each.
Federal indictments filed Wednesday against the 13 Bosnian Serbs accused them of committing fraud by omitting on their immigration applications that they served in Serbia's Army of the Republic of Srpska. The seven others face deportation hearings on similar charges.
A spokesman for Immigration and Customs Enforcement has said the seven detained would have been charged criminally for failing to declare their past military service but the statute of limitation ran out.
All immigrants applying for refugee status and legal residency are required to declare prior military service.
"Their failure to list their military service precluded U.S. authorities from engaging in a line of questioning that would have helped determine what their wartime activities were," said Pacheco.
Since their apprehension this week, all 20 were approached by immigration and FBI investigators for questioning, Pacheco said.
The refugees arrested this week were stationed in brigades in the northeastern towns of Zvornik or Bratunac, Pacheco said.
Srebrenica fell to Bosnian Serb forces on July 11, 1995. The Bosnian Serbs then killed some 8,000 Muslim men and boys, Europe's worst massacre of civilians since World War II. The remains of the victims were buried in mass graves around Srebrenica.
Several top Serb military and political officials already are serving sentences for war crimes in Srebrenica.
Last year, four Bosnian Serbs living in Phoenix were also arrested and charged with lying on immigration paperwork.
Three are awaiting trial. One, Zdravko Bozic, pleaded guilty and was sentenced in March to a year in prison. After serving his sentence, he'll be turned over to immigration officials for possible deportation, the U.S. Attorney's Office said.
According to court documents, all four arrested in 2004 are believed to have been assigned to the Drina Corps in the Bratunac Brigade in 1995.
Earlier rulings by the U.N. tribunal have established that the Bosnian Serb Drina Corps led the attack on Srebrenica.
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Nesferatu
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#31
Skoro pa svako je lagao na aplikaciji.
Neko da mu je onaj koji mu salje garntno pismo prvi rod, a ljudi su dovodili druge bez da su ih ikada u zivotu vidjeli.
Neko je lagao u vezi Komunisticke partije Jugoslavije u kojoj je bio skoro pa svako, vecina sto su morali po zaposljavanju. Ljudi su se bojali da takve neke stvari su predstavljale automatsko odbijanje zahtjeva za preseljenje u USA.
Neki su lagali o tome kako su izbjegli i nemaju gdje da se vrate, dok su cijelo vrijeme zivjeli u BiH i vodili se kao izbjeglice po RH.
Neki su lagali o tome kako su se sve dvije/tri strane izivljavale na njima te kako ne vide svoju buducnost i nemaju perspketivu u BiH (kad kazem izivljavale mislim fizicki, emotivno bi cak bili i u pravu da su tako nesto rekli).
Neki su lagali i o svom stazu u ABiH/HVO, jer su znali da se pripadnici ma koje vojne formacije ne prihvataju od srca za preseljenje u USA.
Itd....
Znam samo da kad bi uskim cesljem procesljali sve Bosanske aplikacije za preseljenje u USA pronaslo bi se mnogo neregularnosti. Samo, pitanje je kad se s lazi prikriva kriminal i zlocin. To je ono sto Ameri valjda traze i sto strogo kaznjavaju.
Neko da mu je onaj koji mu salje garntno pismo prvi rod, a ljudi su dovodili druge bez da su ih ikada u zivotu vidjeli.
Neko je lagao u vezi Komunisticke partije Jugoslavije u kojoj je bio skoro pa svako, vecina sto su morali po zaposljavanju. Ljudi su se bojali da takve neke stvari su predstavljale automatsko odbijanje zahtjeva za preseljenje u USA.
Neki su lagali o tome kako su izbjegli i nemaju gdje da se vrate, dok su cijelo vrijeme zivjeli u BiH i vodili se kao izbjeglice po RH.
Neki su lagali o tome kako su se sve dvije/tri strane izivljavale na njima te kako ne vide svoju buducnost i nemaju perspketivu u BiH (kad kazem izivljavale mislim fizicki, emotivno bi cak bili i u pravu da su tako nesto rekli).
Neki su lagali i o svom stazu u ABiH/HVO, jer su znali da se pripadnici ma koje vojne formacije ne prihvataju od srca za preseljenje u USA.
Itd....
Znam samo da kad bi uskim cesljem procesljali sve Bosanske aplikacije za preseljenje u USA pronaslo bi se mnogo neregularnosti. Samo, pitanje je kad se s lazi prikriva kriminal i zlocin. To je ono sto Ameri valjda traze i sto strogo kaznjavaju.